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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #195 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:41pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
Do you think it is possible that Islam has become self-reinforcing in some places by creating genetically inferior subgroups that are in turn drawn to Islam because of their low intellect?


By adopting such arguments, would you say it dispels the myth that criticising Islam and muslims has nothing to do with race and racism?


Muslims aren't a Race. I know its hard to understand but they really are not. Honest.
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Reply #196 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:26pm:
Do you think it is possible that Islam has become self-reinforcing in some places by creating genetically inferior subgroups that are in turn drawn to Islam because of their low intellect?


By adopting such arguments, would you say it dispels the myth that criticising Islam and muslims has nothing to do with race and racism?


I think that the human races have been around for longer than 1400 years Gandalf. It would still be possible to criticise Islam without resorting to race, or genetics. Also, in this case Islam is the ultimate cause, and the genetic inferiority is a symptom. Even you have conceded that inbreeding is a significant problem, but that does not make you a racist.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #197 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:55pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
Sure, it's plausible. If the details stack up I might add it to the faith ratchet article.

I've been meaning to add Aceh as an example.


Does a genetically inferior subgroup apply to race, FD?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Reply #198 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:22pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
I think that the human races have been around for longer than 1400 years Gandalf.


Really?

I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
It would still be possible to criticise Islam without resorting to race, or genetics.


And yet here we are, resorting to genetics. And not only that, resorting to describing muslims as a "genetically inferior sub-group" who are naturally predisposed to Islam. All of a sudden "Islam" becomes a descriptor of a human genetic sub-group, rather than a descriptor of an ideology/religion.

The end game of course is moses' thesis of the impossibility of Islamic atrocities and general backwardness ever being able to be understood outside the context of muslim's genetic inferiority.
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Reply #199 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:31pm
 
I look at the title of this thread then I read this.

"I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now."


Grin Grin Grin

That's Pure Gold.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #200 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:39pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:22pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
I think that the human races have been around for longer than 1400 years Gandalf.


Really?

I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
It would still be possible to criticise Islam without resorting to race, or genetics.


And yet here we are, resorting to genetics. And not only that, resorting to describing muslims as a "genetically inferior sub-group" who are naturally predisposed to Islam. All of a sudden "Islam" becomes a descriptor of a human genetic sub-group, rather than a descriptor of an ideology/religion.

The end game of course is moses' thesis of the impossibility of Islamic atrocities and general backwardness ever being able to be understood outside the context of muslim's genetic inferiority.


Now now, G, I'm sure FD's not racist. After all, genetically inferior subgroups are not a race.

Can you imagine if a champion of liberal democracy like FD believed in the plausability of Matty's silly article? Impossible. I mean, it would mean he's gone full-Herbie.

No, FD wil be along any moment now to clear all this up, don't you worry about that. I'm sure it's just crossed wires or something, you'll see.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #201 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:43pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 8:22pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
I think that the human races have been around for longer than 1400 years Gandalf.


Really?

I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
It would still be possible to criticise Islam without resorting to race, or genetics.


And yet here we are, resorting to genetics. And not only that, resorting to describing muslims as a "genetically inferior sub-group" who are naturally predisposed to Islam. All of a sudden "Islam" becomes a descriptor of a human genetic sub-group, rather than a descriptor of an ideology/religion.

The end game of course is moses' thesis of the impossibility of Islamic atrocities and general backwardness ever being able to be understood outside the context of muslim's genetic inferiority.


Gandy, I'm not into the genetic aspect of this but the fact Islam has a preference of one particular book often to the total exclusion of others, the lack of books translated into Arabic,  the total lack of scientific achievement and patents leads me to think thereare some pretty major problems here
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #202 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:09pm
 
At the end of the day Islam's followers by adhering to Islams teachings produce a demographic that by their actions as taught by the Cult produce inferior genetics thus resulting in the low IQ of muslims and a below average cognitive ability.

Its all about the product of inferior genetic material through inbreeding that is producing low IQ level's because if Islam. Its just proven plain fact.

Case in point Gandalf is so simple he calls me matty(See my sig, its such a big gotcha moment) and doesn't have the intellect to rebut the OP but only has the capability to write a couple words calling it a silly article. Yet he can't comprehend why. Nor can he comprehend why he keeps using the word racism even though others point that out to him.

Its all about genetics and how islam creates a below average cognitive ability in muslims.

You won't get a highly intellectual debate with muslims simply because they have it drummed into them they are right and suffer a below average cognitive ability. Not being rude but that's just plain fact. You won't change their view.

They have to discover that it is ok to learn and think for themselves and that islam is a lie for themselves.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #203 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:19pm
 
A better discussion would be how does one help someone with such a low cognitive ability raise their intellectual level. Or how do they help themselves.

The start would be freeing the mind to learn and breaks its boundaries. Once you have done that the skies the limit. If they want to stay chained up in ignorant bliss so be it. Unfortunately from what I have seen on here that is the case.

The mind boggles at some discussions on here with muslims where commonsense is literally thrown out the window along with intelligence. The same stuff is rehashed over and over and silly details seem so important to keep dragging up from years past. Its a childlike mentality. Two or three word posts like its a big he he moment, or you are a matty, but we've all read them before. Over and over again its a child like yawn moment of low intellect.

Freeing the mind to learn and accepting one can be wrong in a bid to understand and learn more and move on brings one up the intellectual ladder.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #204 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:21pm
 
Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
At the end of the day Islam's followers by adhering to Islams teachings produce a demographic that by their actions as taught by the Cult produce inferior genetics thus resulting in the low IQ of muslims and a below average cognitive ability.

Its all about the product of inferior genetic material through inbreeding that is producing low IQ level's because if Islam. Its just proven plain fact.

Case in point Gandalf is so simple he calls me matty(See my sig, its such a big gotcha moment) and doesn't have the intellect to rebut the OP but only has the capability to write a couple words calling it a silly article. Yet he can't comprehend why. Nor can he comprehend why he keeps using the word racism even though others point that out to him.

Its all about genetics and how islam creates a below average cognitive ability in muslims.

You won't get a highly intellectual debate with muslims simply because they have it drummed into them they are right and suffer a below average cognitive ability. Not being rude but that's just plain fact. You won't change their view.

They have to discover that it is ok to learn and think for themselves and that islam is a lie for themselves.


I think that's applicable to all religions but amplified because islam has such stringent rules and education is a closed shop with just one book that they REALLY like
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Reply #205 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm
 
lets face it, anyone who believes in sky fairies can't be that bright.  Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #206 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:24pm
 
GordyL wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:21pm:
Sir James wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
At the end of the day Islam's followers by adhering to Islams teachings produce a demographic that by their actions as taught by the Cult produce inferior genetics thus resulting in the low IQ of muslims and a below average cognitive ability.

Its all about the product of inferior genetic material through inbreeding that is producing low IQ level's because if Islam. Its just proven plain fact.

Case in point Gandalf is so simple he calls me matty(See my sig, its such a big gotcha moment) and doesn't have the intellect to rebut the OP but only has the capability to write a couple words calling it a silly article. Yet he can't comprehend why. Nor can he comprehend why he keeps using the word racism even though others point that out to him.

Its all about genetics and how islam creates a below average cognitive ability in muslims.

You won't get a highly intellectual debate with muslims simply because they have it drummed into them they are right and suffer a below average cognitive ability. Not being rude but that's just plain fact. You won't change their view.

They have to discover that it is ok to learn and think for themselves and that islam is a lie for themselves.


I think that's applicable to all religions but amplified because islam has such stringent rules and education is a closed shop with just one book that they REALLY like


No its not applicable at all. Its because of the teaching of the physical practice of inbreeding.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #207 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:28pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm:
lets face it, anyone who believes in sky fairies can't be that bright.  Cheesy Cheesy


Neither can people that run around telling everyone that their is no God that lives in a spiritual realm when clearly they wouldn't know either way.

That's the same as inventing their own sky fairy down the back of the garden. Better to keep ones mouth shut about what one does not know anything about or does not understand, nor has the ability to make a firm conclusion about.

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Reply #208 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm
 
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I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.


A subgroup based on the history of religion can exist Gandalf. You made the link to racism, as you always do. The existence or otherwise of human races has little bearing on Muslims marrying their cousins.

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And yet here we are, resorting to genetics. And not only that, resorting to describing muslims as a "genetically inferior sub-group" who are naturally predisposed to Islam. All of a sudden "Islam" becomes a descriptor of a human genetic sub-group, rather than a descriptor of an ideology/religion.


Wrong again Gandalf. Using Islam to refer to the subgroup would just be confusing. Islam is still a political, religious and military creed. Cousins are still cousins.

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The end game of course is moses' thesis of the impossibility of Islamic atrocities and general backwardness ever being able to be understood outside the context of muslim's genetic inferiority.


How about we start with whether it is true?
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #209 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:33pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm:
lets face it, anyone who believes in sky fairies can't be that bright.  Cheesy Cheesy


And then we have Ben Carson. Did one of the most complicated  cranial  conjoined twins separations. Young earth creationist.
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