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Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81 (Read 92388 times)
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #210 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:59pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:22pm:
lets face it, anyone who believes in sky fairies can't be that bright.  Cheesy Cheesy

yeah, Einstein was a real dummy. Roll Eyes
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Reply #211 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:05pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
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I'll let you in on a little secret FD - human races don't even exist. 'Racism' though, somewhat counter-intuitively, does exist - and refers to the exact same (mis)categorisation of humans into various superior and inferior genetic sub-groups that you are entertaining now.


A subgroup based on the history of religion can exist Gandalf. You made the link to racism, as you always do.


That's strange, FD. Why would anyone make a link to racism?

Here's Matty's "scientist":

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It’s Throwback Thursday, which means a look back at crazy, stupid, or just plain bizarre incidents involving white nationalists and the Alt-Right. Today’s look back features Donald Templer, a now retired professor of psychology at Alliant International University. Templer, who presents his white supremacist opinions under the guise of scientific thought, has attended several of American Renaissance‘s yearly conferences in order to give speeches on race and intelligence that would have seemed outdated fifty years ago.

At the 2004 AmRen Conference, Templer gave a speech entitled “The Cost of Ignoring Group Differences.” And while I realize it may be discourteous to mock a person’s physical characteristics, I do find it at least a tad ironic that this pudgy, no-necked, bulldog of a man would have the nerve to espouse such pseudoscientific, pro-eugenics tripe.

“I have never believed that all ethnic groups are the same in psychological characteristics,” he said, taking time to pant every few seconds. “I have believed since I was a graduate student in the 1960s, that the black-white large IQ differences are genetic in origin.” He likened this realization about racial differences to “homosexual persons” coming out of the closet, and even likened himself and his fellow white supremacists to Galileo.

Templer’s racist rhetoric became even more venomous as he addressed America’s legacy of brutal racial discrimination against blacks. “Black Americans and many other minority groups have suffered from injustices in the history of our society. And this is unfortunate,” Templer conceded. “However, the present problems of blacks have little or nothing to do with slavery, with segregation, or with lynching. And I wish they would shut up!” he exclaimed to raucous applause. Instead, he asserted, their problems stem from “low intelligence and poor impulse control.” It is “nature and not white people” that is responsible for black Americans’ “smaller brains and lower intelligence on the average.”

Professor Templer continued, calling the “denial of the very large inherent intellectual difference between blacks and whites” has resulted in the “misuse of the expression ‘test bias.'” Templer rejected the idea of biased testing, and stated that there is “no such thing as test bias when it comes to blacks.” In fact, he remarked,”if black persons score low on an intelligence test, I couldn’t find any more powerful evidence for the validity of that test.” Instead of being horrified, the AmRen audience continued to laugh and applaud.

Another result of denying “inferior black intelligence” is that white folks are “blamed for the criminal proclivity of black persons.” And the root cause of black crime, according to Templer, is not poverty, failing educational institutions, or institutional racism. No. Instead he believes it is merely “low intelligence.” People with “low intelligence,” he claimed, “tend to have low frustration tolerance, poor judgment, poor impulse control, poor ability to contain their aggression, poor ability to contain their sexual urges. And poor ability to manage their funds.” He justified the comment on money management by saying that if he were a professional athlete who made $100,000 he would have invested his money and eventually doubled it, while black athletes squander their earnings until they go bankrupt.

But don’t worry, folks. They’re not racist or anything. They’re just pro-white.
https://hailtothegynocracy.wordpress.com/2016/03/30/throwback-thursday-donald-te...

And here's his journal:

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The Mankind Quarterly is a peer-reviewed academic journal dedicated to physical and cultural anthropology and is published by the Ulster Institute for Social Research in London. It contains articles on human evolution, intelligence, ethnography, linguistics, mythology, archaeology, etc. The journal aims to unify anthropology with biology.

It has been called a "cornerstone of the scientific racism establishment" and a "white supremacist journal",[1] "scientific racism's keepers of the flame",[2] a journal with a "racist orientation" and an "infamous racist journal",[3] and "journal of 'scientific racism'".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mankind_Quarterly

As you can see, FD, it's not about the Muselman at all.

Good to see you've finally come out.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #212 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:06pm
 
Sir James wrote on Apr 15th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
The Comparison of Mean IQ in Muslim and Non-Muslim Countries
Donald I. Templer

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The present research found that the Muslim country mean IQ of 81 is half a standard deviation below the mean IQ of non-Muslim nations and is not related to strength of Muslim culture as defined by the percentage of Muslims in the country. The mean IQ of 84 in Arab countries is not associated with per capita income and is incompatible with the intellectual achievements of the golden age of the Muslim Empire. Possible explanations for this decline include hybridization with sub-Saharan Africans, dysgenic decrease in the more educated Muslims employing birth control as suggested by Meisenberg, the Muslim religion not fostering critical thinking, and the intellectual contributions being both exaggerated and made by non-Muslims.

http://donalditempler.com/assets/templer_8.pdf



Given the mean IQ is 81 highlights the problems of communication, learning ability and ability for rational reason. Bear that in mind when conversing or getting one too upset.

At a guess I'd say the mean IQ of the muslim apologist would be around 81 as well or possibly less.

So as a rule of thumb  when conversing with muslims or apologists keep it simple.


This is the OP DOPEY.

Go on use your high IQ to call me matty, sheesh I won't sleep at night now.
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matty = muslim with a mat collection, invented by the intellectual giants with an IQ of 81 or below.  Yeah its such a gotcha , I know. Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #213 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm
 
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #214 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
You made the link to racism, as you always do.


Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #215 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm
 
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.

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Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.


It is not racism if they are the same race as others, but have created a subgroup that is defined by their religious history.

I'll simplify. If someone claims that having sex with your sister will increase the likelihood of birth defects, is that racist?
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #216 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
How about we start with whether it is true?


Have you read the article? Seen the charts?

Or would you like G to cut and paste it for you?
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #217 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm
 
ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #218 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
You made the link to racism, as you always do.


Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.


How is Islam a Genetic Sub group ?

Its a demographic of people that practice inbreeding because of islam resulting in sub standard genetics. You do understand this surely it ain't rocket science.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #219 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.


Read the article and say that, FD.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #220 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.



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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #221 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:13pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:11pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
How about we start with whether it is true?


Have you read the article? Seen the charts?

Or would you like G to cut and paste it for you?


I have actually read all 15 pages of this thread Gandalf. I was interested to see if anyone would dispute the facts. Not even you.
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Reply #222 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:15pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
ian wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
Thats just an opinion Karnal, nothing there refutes the facts. And it is a fact that majority Muslim  countries have low mean IQs, Regardless of Templemans agenda, this is fact.


How do you measure the IQ of a population, Ian?

I'm curious.
You are allegedly an intelligent man. Take an educated guess.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #223 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
15 pages in, and I am still waiting for someone to contradict the claims made in the opening post. At least we have moved on from insults.

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Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.


It is not racism if they are the same race as others, but have created a subgroup that is defined by their religious history.

I'll simplify. If someone claims that having sex with your sister will increase the likelihood of birth defects, is that racist?


Templer's theory is that Arabs have low IQs because they bred with Arab slaves, FD.

Claiming that blacks and Muslims are racially inferior is hardly racist, shurely.
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Re: Muslim's have a mean IQ of 81
Reply #224 - Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:16pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 10:10pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2016 at 9:32pm:
You made the link to racism, as you always do.


Ah, so talking about the inferiority of certain genetic sub-groups isn't racism now. Please do tell me more FD.

Are people with lower IQs inferior? Who stated that?
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