GordyL wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 11:30pm:


I knew it. Typical.

Karnal wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:
Then you need to learn and do research into the subject as I have.

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So? Does that negate the facts?

GordyL wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:


Yep I know I am just pointing out the fact since karnal is not a muslim anymore since this thread appeared that denial doesn't rub away the evidence. Acknowledging the fact of a low IQ is the start. Yet all we get is avoidance and deflection away from the issue that karnal can't face up too. Low IQ doesn't help face up to a response as we are experiencing the results of that survey in this very thread.

Which is encouraging from an analytical point of view and interesting to see.

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ian wrote on Apr 16^th, 2016 at 11:45pm:


Yes, Ian - that, and the fact that you can’t even fathom the methadology used.

A rAcist study with nonsensical ontological foundations, statistics and "findings".

It’s all in the paper you - and FD - haven’t read.

It was Nikolai Sennels who was pushing the inbreeding theory - see post #56 for an example.

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Still, it is a big step up from what we have so far.

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It has only been going on for 1400 years. If it went on for a lot longer then the process could result in distinct races, but as it is (and as Karnal just pointed out) the racial lines are blurred. Even within the middle east, the practice of marrying first cousins varies significantly between communities. In some central Arab cultures, a man is considered to have the right to marry his cousin (father's borther's daughter). He cannot force her, but she needs his consent to marry someone else.

Do you think this is racist? Should we pretend the problem does not exist in case we get labelled racist?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage

In Qatar, Yemen, and UAE, consanguinity rates are increasing in the current generation. Research among Arabs and worldwide has indicated that consanguinity could have an effect on some reproductive health parameters such as postnatal mortality and rates of congenital malformations.



Cousin marriages (second-degree cousins or closer) in the world, in percentage (%).
  <1
  1–4
  5-9
  10-19
  20-29
  30-39
  40-49
  50+

Except for the far east, this looks pretty much like a map of the historical spread of Islam, don't you think? It certainly looks like a map of how Islam spread via the traditional top down imposition favoured by Muhammed and his fellow cousin porkers.

Although isolated cousin marriages may pose little risk, repeated consanginous marriages within a group are more problematic. After repeated generations of cousin marriage the actual genetic relationship between two people is closer than the most immediate relationship would suggest. In Pakistan, where there has been cousin marriage for generations and the current rate may exceed 50%, one study estimated infant mortality at 12.7 percent for married double first cousins, 7.9 percent for first cousins, 9.2 percent for first cousins once removed/double second cousins, 6.9 percent for second cousins, and 5.1 percent among nonconsanguineous progeny. Among double first cousin progeny, 41.2 percent of prereproductive deaths were associated with the expression of detrimental recessive genes, with equivalent values of 26.0, 14.9, and 8.1 percent for first cousins, first cousins once removed/double second cousins, and second cousins respectively.

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It is certainly controversial. These differences have been measured. The only disagreement is over what it actually means.