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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #30 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:18pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

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____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Really? As has been shown the greens do not have problems aligning themselves with coalition policies. No conviction!

Sometimes Greens and the coalition positions are similar.

As we know, under 10% of the voting this term, Greens voted with the coalition.

Labor on the other hand, what was their percentage of voting with the coalition ... 85%?

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #31 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:19pm

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:14pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:08pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Ethical values?? Your party supports human shields and children being taught to kill!! Your party supports women being flogged for being raped. Your party supports apostates being killed. Your party has no understanding of liberal values, ethical values, or just pure sensible democratic values.

Ethical values, the greens are bereft of them.

http://greens.org.au/policy

Like to point out your claims within the Greens Policies?

No surprises it resolves to a HTTP 404 error. Greens Policies - wishful thinking.

The Greens support extremism and in their inability to offer proper rational thinking over political correctness on issues of terrorism, radical religion, radical nationalism, the Greens end up causing nothing but harm and murder. The regressive left is the worst thing to have happened to the world in the last 20 years.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #32 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Really? As has been shown the greens do not have problems aligning themselves with coalition policies. No conviction!

Sometimes Greens and the coalition positions are similar.

As we know, under 10% of the voting this term, Greens voted with the coalition.

Labor on the other hand, what was their percentage of voting with the coalition ... 85%?

Demonstrate the 10%.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #33 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.

thats not what they were saying at the time Cheesy

... don't try to change history. You should own it instead of being ashamed of the greens actions

Really.
Perhaps you should quote your source.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #34 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:21pm

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.

thats not what they were saying at the time Cheesy

... don't try to change history. You should own it instead of being ashamed of the greens actions

Really.
Perhaps you should quote your source.

Bob Brown.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #35 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:23pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:12pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

a party devoid of ethical values.

you mean like a party that claims to be all about the environment voting against an ETS? they're the sorts of ethical values you hold dear?

The Labor ETS that locked in massive payouts to the big polluters and no reduction in coal pollution until after 2033?

Why Greens Rejected The CPRS

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1449746328

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #36 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:27pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:21pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.

thats not what they were saying at the time Cheesy

... don't try to change history. You should own it instead of being ashamed of the greens actions

Really.
Perhaps you should quote your source.

Bob Brown.

Adam had already committed to not supporting the coalition ... and this was prior to the hung parliament result.

Labor were so desperate for power, their election promises were pulped.

So what will be different this time since a hung parliament is highly likely.

Will both lib and lab sell out election promises for government?

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #37 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:36pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Really? As has been shown the greens do not have problems aligning themselves with coalition policies. No conviction!

Sometimes Greens and the coalition positions are similar.

As we know, under 10% of the voting this term, Greens voted with the coalition.

Labor on the other hand, what was their percentage of voting with the coalition ... 85%?

Demonstrate the 10%.

Greens voting with the coalition in the Senate this term ~ 6%

http://theaimn.com/why-the-greens-did-what-they-did/

Party/Independent Voted with the Government
ALP 38%
GREENS 6%
DAY 75%
LEYONHJELM 65%
WANG* (PUP) 55%
MUIR 52%
MADIGAN 42%
LAZARUS (IND) 13%
LAZARUS (PUP) 32%
XENOPHON 29%
LAMBIE (IND) 18%
LAMBIE (PUP) 53%

6% doesn't equate to the claim of Greens being aligned to the government.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #38 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:42pm

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Really? As has been shown the greens do not have problems aligning themselves with coalition policies. No conviction!

Sometimes Greens and the coalition positions are similar.

As we know, under 10% of the voting this term, Greens voted with the coalition.

Labor on the other hand, what was their percentage of voting with the coalition ... 85%?

Demonstrate the 10%.

Greens voting with the coalition in the Senate this term ~ 6%

http://theaimn.com/why-the-greens-did-what-they-did/

Party/Independent Voted with the Government
ALP 38%
GREENS 6%
DAY 75%
LEYONHJELM 65%
WANG* (PUP) 55%
MUIR 52%
MADIGAN 42%
LAZARUS (IND) 13%
LAZARUS (PUP) 32%
XENOPHON 29%
LAMBIE (IND) 18%
LAMBIE (PUP) 53%

6% doesn't equate to the claim of Greens being aligned to the government.

I don't want an email from DiNatalie - I want hard evidence. Show all the legislation that was voted on in the Senate, the Liberal vote, and the Greens vote.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #39 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:49pm

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Really? As has been shown the greens do not have problems aligning themselves with coalition policies. No conviction!

Sometimes Greens and the coalition positions are similar.

As we know, under 10% of the voting this term, Greens voted with the coalition.

Labor on the other hand, what was their percentage of voting with the coalition ... 85%?

that's only because once the greens know the libs legislation will pass and they can then play the ideology card. If labor didn't support the libs on many of those issues the greens would have jumped on it.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #40 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:50pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:14pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:08pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Ethical values?? Your party supports human shields and children being taught to kill!! Your party supports women being flogged for being raped. Your party supports apostates being killed. Your party has no understanding of liberal values, ethical values, or just pure sensible democratic values.

Ethical values, the greens are bereft of them.

http://greens.org.au/policy

Like to point out your claims within the Greens Policies?

No surprises it resolves to a HTTP 404 error. Greens Policies - wishful thinking.

The Greens support extremism and in their inability to offer proper rational thinking over political correctness on issues of terrorism, radical religion, radical nationalism, the Greens end up causing nothing but harm and murder. The regressive left is the worst thing to have happened to the world in the last 20 years.

The link works.
If you can't find policies to work in with your spin, don't blame the link.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #41 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:52pm

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.

thats not what they were saying at the time Cheesy

... don't try to change history. You should own it instead of being ashamed of the greens actions

Really.
Perhaps you should quote your source.

the election was on the 21st ... the greens declared their support on the 1st ... what do you think they were doing for 10 days if they had already made up their mind Cheesy

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #42 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:53pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:42pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Really? As has been shown the greens do not have problems aligning themselves with coalition policies. No conviction!

Sometimes Greens and the coalition positions are similar.

As we know, under 10% of the voting this term, Greens voted with the coalition.

Labor on the other hand, what was their percentage of voting with the coalition ... 85%?

Demonstrate the 10%.

Greens voting with the coalition in the Senate this term ~ 6%

http://theaimn.com/why-the-greens-did-what-they-did/

Party/Independent Voted with the Government
ALP 38%
GREENS 6%
DAY 75%
LEYONHJELM 65%
WANG* (PUP) 55%
MUIR 52%
MADIGAN 42%
LAZARUS (IND) 13%
LAZARUS (PUP) 32%
XENOPHON 29%
LAMBIE (IND) 18%
LAMBIE (PUP) 53%

6% doesn't equate to the claim of Greens being aligned to the government.

I don't want an email from DiNatalie - I want hard evidence. Show all the legislation that was voted on in the Senate, the Liberal vote, and the Greens vote.

Do your own research.
I am not here to spoon feed you.

Labor voted over 600% more times with the coalition than the Greens did this term.
Perhaps part of the reason undecided are undecided. Labor and Liberals are practically identical.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #43 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:59pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:52pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.

thats not what they were saying at the time Cheesy

... don't try to change history. You should own it instead of being ashamed of the greens actions

Really.
Perhaps you should quote your source.

the election was on the 21st ... the greens declared their support on the 1st ... what do you think they were doing for 10 days if they had already made up their mind Cheesy

Greens didn't declare support for the ALP. They guaranteed supply and not to support a vote of no confidence in labor, unless it was brought on by the Greens.

This was done for the economy and for the voters. Not because Labor were a great option.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #44 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 11:00pm

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:52pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.

thats not what they were saying at the time Cheesy

... don't try to change history. You should own it instead of being ashamed of the greens actions

Really.
Perhaps you should quote your source.

the election was on the 21st ... the greens declared their support on the 1st ... what do you think they were doing for 10 days if they had already made up their mind Cheesy

Greens didn't declare support for the ALP. They guaranteed supply and not to support a vote of no confidence in labor, unless it was brought on by the Greens.

This was done for the economy and for the voters. Not because Labor were a great option.

blah blah ... they wouldn't need to wait 10 days to agree to that unless they were trying to win certain conditons Cheesy

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