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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #45 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 11:08pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:49pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Really? As has been shown the greens do not have problems aligning themselves with coalition policies. No conviction!

Sometimes Greens and the coalition positions are similar.

As we know, under 10% of the voting this term, Greens voted with the coalition.

Labor on the other hand, what was their percentage of voting with the coalition ... 85%?

that's only because once the greens know the libs legislation will pass and they can then play the ideology card. If labor didn't support the libs on many of those issues the greens would have jumped on it.

Trying to out cods cods?

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #46 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 11:09pm

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:53pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:42pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Really? As has been shown the greens do not have problems aligning themselves with coalition policies. No conviction!

Sometimes Greens and the coalition positions are similar.

As we know, under 10% of the voting this term, Greens voted with the coalition.

Labor on the other hand, what was their percentage of voting with the coalition ... 85%?

Demonstrate the 10%.

Greens voting with the coalition in the Senate this term ~ 6%

http://theaimn.com/why-the-greens-did-what-they-did/

Party/Independent Voted with the Government
ALP 38%
GREENS 6%
DAY 75%
LEYONHJELM 65%
WANG* (PUP) 55%
MUIR 52%
MADIGAN 42%
LAZARUS (IND) 13%
LAZARUS (PUP) 32%
XENOPHON 29%
LAMBIE (IND) 18%
LAMBIE (PUP) 53%

6% doesn't equate to the claim of Greens being aligned to the government.

I don't want an email from DiNatalie - I want hard evidence. Show all the legislation that was voted on in the Senate, the Liberal vote, and the Greens vote.

Do your own research.
I am not here to spoon feed you.

Labor voted over 600% more times with the coalition than the Greens did this term.
Perhaps part of the reason undecided are undecided. Labor and Liberals are practically identical.

why am I going to do research on your secondary evidence nonsense? You made the claim based off an email from DiNatalie - not exactly a trustworthy source from an untrustworthy character.

And the reason voters may be undecided is because people like me exist who won't vote Labor or Liberal, but are also NOT regressive leftists who would support a party that promotes its support for radical religion, radical nationalism, terrorism, human shields, rape victims being flogged, etc. etc. etc. etc. Disgusting Greens.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #47 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 11:10pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 11:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:52pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.

thats not what they were saying at the time Cheesy

... don't try to change history. You should own it instead of being ashamed of the greens actions

Really.
Perhaps you should quote your source.

the election was on the 21st ... the greens declared their support on the 1st ... what do you think they were doing for 10 days if they had already made up their mind Cheesy

Greens didn't declare support for the ALP. They guaranteed supply and not to support a vote of no confidence in labor, unless it was brought on by the Greens.

This was done for the economy and for the voters. Not because Labor were a great option.

blah blah ... they wouldn't need to wait 10 days to agree to that unless they were trying to win certain conditons Cheesy

Whatever you want to claim matey ... if it helps you justify your alp support.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #48 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 11:15pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 11:09pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:53pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:42pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:36pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:20pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 9:55pm:

Greens didn't push Gillard.

it was one of the conditions the greens imposed upon labor in exchange for the greens support.

you're an idiot if you are now going to pretend it wasn't greens policy

The Greens were not going to support the coalition.
It was Labor's desperation that made Labor break another of their election promises. Labor backflipped because they are a party devoid of ethical values.

Really? As has been shown the greens do not have problems aligning themselves with coalition policies. No conviction!

Sometimes Greens and the coalition positions are similar.

As we know, under 10% of the voting this term, Greens voted with the coalition.

Labor on the other hand, what was their percentage of voting with the coalition ... 85%?

Demonstrate the 10%.

Greens voting with the coalition in the Senate this term ~ 6%

http://theaimn.com/why-the-greens-did-what-they-did/

Party/Independent Voted with the Government
ALP 38%
GREENS 6%
DAY 75%
LEYONHJELM 65%
WANG* (PUP) 55%
MUIR 52%
MADIGAN 42%
LAZARUS (IND) 13%
LAZARUS (PUP) 32%
XENOPHON 29%
LAMBIE (IND) 18%
LAMBIE (PUP) 53%

6% doesn't equate to the claim of Greens being aligned to the government.

I don't want an email from DiNatalie - I want hard evidence. Show all the legislation that was voted on in the Senate, the Liberal vote, and the Greens vote.

Do your own research.
I am not here to spoon feed you.

Labor voted over 600% more times with the coalition than the Greens did this term.
Perhaps part of the reason undecided are undecided. Labor and Liberals are practically identical.

why am I going to do research on your secondary evidence nonsense? You made the claim based off an email from DiNatalie - not exactly a trustworthy source from an untrustworthy character.

And the reason voters may be undecided is because people like me exist who won't vote Labor or Liberal, but are also NOT regressive leftists who would support a party that promotes its support for radical religion, radical nationalism, terrorism, human shields, rape victims being flogged, etc. etc. etc. etc. Disgusting Greens.

An independent site posted it. Take it up with them.

Also, if you are going to repeat the same mumbo jumbo ... is it because you have nothing and so have to make things up. Is Labor that hard to defend. Rhetorical ... we both know defending labor is a waste of energy.

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Re: Winning Over The Undecided Voters
Reply #49 - Apr 18^th, 2016 at 11:18pm

____ wrote on Apr 18^th, 2016 at 11:15pm:

An independent site posted it. Take it up with them.

Also, if you are going to repeat the same mumbo jumbo ... is it because you have nothing and so have to make things up. Is Labor that hard to defend. Rhetorical ... we both know defending labor is a waste of energy.

Do you have ANY understanding of how to decipher the information you get? The site posted an email from DiNatalie. DiNatalie could very easily have made up the number by pulling his finger out of his ass.

If you are going to spread information around use primary sources. Otherwise don't try and pass around very questionable data.

And I agree, Labor are a waste of time - that's why I don't vote for them. They are almost as big a waste of time as the regressive left Greens who wish to destroy our democracy.

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