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Reply #210 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:13pm

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:08pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 8:58pm:

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 7:52pm:

freediver wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 7:49pm:

So why would we prefer Jews over yellow tints Aussie?

I feel better about national security if there were Israelis as my immediate neighbour.

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Can you cite any precedents of 8 million people all voluntarily agreeing to move half way round the world at the same time?

No.....someone had to invent the wheel.

OK, how about just 1 million people?

Same issue. Different logistics.

True. How about 100 000? That would be easy by comparison, right? I bet we do that all the time, price of peace and all that....

Same issue ~ different logistics. Just do the same thing whatever times over with a greater number, while ensuring a strong defence of those diminishing numbers waiting to be moved.

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Reply #211 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:15pm

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 8:57pm:

Quantum wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 8:51pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 8:47pm:

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Israel is not in Arabia. It's in Judea.

Sure....not in Arabia. It is where we plonked it in 1948, surrounded by natural enemies.

Arabia is for Arabs.

Does this kind of racism apply in other contexts? Europe is for whites, for example...

If, in 1948, we plonked Saudis into the heart of Europe, I'd be singing the same song. Horses for courses, they reckon.

The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

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Reply #213 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:27pm

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

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Reply #214 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:24pm:

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

Muslim Sovereign States?

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Reply #215 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:32pm

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:24pm:

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

Muslim Sovereign States?

May as well be. In the future we'll have them here. Muslims only want to live with Muslims. What do you think will happen?

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Reply #216 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:24pm:

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

Muslim Sovereign States?

May as well be. In the future we'll have them here. Muslims only want to live with Muslims. What do you think will happen?

That's just garbage. /End.

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Reply #217 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:34pm

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm:

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Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:24pm:

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

Muslim Sovereign States?

So if Israel wasn't a sovereign state but just a group of Jews with nukes holding ground in the Middle East, that would be fine?

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Reply #218 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:35pm

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:24pm:

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

Muslim Sovereign States?

May as well be. In the future we'll have them here. Muslims only want to live with Muslims. What do you think will happen?

That's just garbage. /End.

pull you head out of your ass.

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Reply #219 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:40pm

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:24pm:

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

Muslim Sovereign States?

May as well be. In the future we'll have them here. Muslims only want to live with Muslims. What do you think will happen?

That's just garbage. /End.

They tell us what they want every day

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Reply #220 - May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:47pm

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:24pm:

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

Muslim Sovereign States?

May as well be. In the future we'll have them here. Muslims only want to live with Muslims. What do you think will happen?

That's just garbage. /End.

Pakistan.

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Reply #221 - May 3^rd, 2016 at 10:33am

Secret Wars wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:47pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:32pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:24pm:

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

Muslim Sovereign States?

May as well be. In the future we'll have them here. Muslims only want to live with Muslims. What do you think will happen?

That's just garbage. /End.

Pakistan.

What about Pakistan? It certainly was not plonked into the heart of calathumpian territory when it was created as the sovereign state, West Pakistan.

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Reply #222 - May 3^rd, 2016 at 10:44am

Quantum wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:27pm:

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 10:24pm:

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The western world has plonked millions of muslims into the heart of Europe. Are muslims somehow different? Are they not entitled to change like we are???

Has some Muslim State been created in the heart of Europe?

There's plenty of them. Muslims build enclaves around mosques. Check out Lakemba. In England there are Muslim groups who harass people out of Muslim suburbs who are drinking, gay etc. If Israel wasn't getting attacked, bombed etc maybe they would be more inclusive.

Muslim Sovereign States?

So if Israel wasn't a sovereign state but just a group of Jews with nukes holding ground in the Middle East, that would be fine?

i am a great admirer of the jews and of israel in particular.
many times they must have felt like giving up but they are very very persistent.
persistence is a great measure of character and of success.
they have also made the decision to keep on improving.
thru sheer grit, guts and determination, they have expanded into the desert.
the young people seem to feel it is an honour to serve in the military
this is a second principle of success...approach things with a sense of contribution.

they understand that failure is the default position if you dont take action.
they understand that "all the good you create will be attacked, unless you defend it"

it would do the middle eastern states a lot of good to send their best and brightest to israel to be mentored by the jews and absorb these core principles of success.

it is also useful for the whole world to study the mindset of several of israels neighbours , to come to an understanding of "failure"

we can learn a lot by studying failure, these states serve as a warning sign, in the same way isreal serves as a beacon

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Reply #224 - May 3^rd, 2016 at 10:50am

Kat wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 10:47am:

aquascoot wrote on May 3^rd, 2016 at 10:44am:

i am a great admirer of the jews and of israel in particular.

The Jews - yes.

Israel - no.

Israel is "all the good they have created!!".
a functional democracy !!!

we now seem to be at the stage of admitting that NONE of the surrounding states can function as a democracy!!

how pitiful Cry

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