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Reply #330 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:06pm

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:53pm:

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Christians Jews and Muslims all have the same God.

Same book different traditions, ok the Muslims also have the Koran but they believe in the old testament too, that is where their roots are and Jesus was a prophet to them.

you mean god could really be a Muslim? and Mohamed's preaching may be real?

your in for some eternal damnation if they are ...

Don't make up fibs, I said all three have the same God, the Muslims also have the Koran.

Same God different traditions.

Incorrect, the muslim god DOES not have a prophesied Son and displays NONE of the Character of The Christian God.

Islam took Christianity and paganism as Monotheism was doing so well at the time and made up Isalm. This wasn't even done until the quran was written some many decades after mohammeds mythical existence and death.

There was no quran when mohammed was supposed to have existed nor any record of a muslim nor him recorded anywhere in any nation. The quran and islam were made up decades after he was even supposed to have died. The god of islam is a false god made up by a man who wanted an ideology to conquer. Hence all the raping and pillaging allowed in islam. Hardly the work of a god.

Yeah fair enough, the Muslims didn't have a saviour, the Jews had one and didn't realise that he had come and gone and the Christians didn't even know he existed learnt it all after the fact.

Its a learning curve.....!!

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 75050 Gender:	Re: When i became a Christian Reply #331 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:07pm Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:06pm: I am not a member of any religion I am a Christian with a faith in God. well good for you. At least you're smart enough to recognise that organised religion is a load of croc.
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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: When i became a Christian Reply #333 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:09pm John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:07pm: Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:06pm: I am not a member of any religion I am a Christian with a faith in God. well good for you. At least you're smart enough to recognise that organised religion is a load of croc. Seems to go alright if you start your own religion
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #334 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:13pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

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Well good for you, and you paranoia would you like a Gold Star ?

How could you, as a Newbie, possibly, or credibly accuse me of paranoia? You are genuine Newbie or you are not. No paranoia involved at all.

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whatever ... keep playing your games

Oh, I will and I don't need your permission either. This Ashley is a fake, and you know it.

No you are clearly a troll and not worth responding too anymore.

Enjoy your paranoid delusions clown.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #335 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:15pm

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

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Well good for you, and you paranoia would you like a Gold Star ?

How could you, as a Newbie, possibly, or credibly accuse me of paranoia? You are genuine Newbie or you are not. No paranoia involved at all.

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whatever ... keep playing your games

Oh, I will and I don't need your permission either. This Ashley is a fake, and you know it.

No you are clearly a troll and not worth responding too anymore.

Enjoy your paranoid delusions clown.

Ashley - you sound like Longy.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #336 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:18pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:07pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

I am not a member of any religion I am a Christian with a faith in God.

well good for you. At least you're smart enough to recognise that organised religion is a load of croc.

Absolutely only because mankind always gets caught up in sin. Either money or lust.

That's not to say their aren't nice people that run a church on the street corner or a nice salvation army church that helps the poor is not a good place to hook up with and worship.

The bible teaches, test them no matter who they are for they come as wolves in sheep's clothing. To be honest I have seen a few churches in my time and only 2 or 3 were worth the time of day. They all had one thing in common.

The poor and needy went there and they were small in size.
That's where Jesus would hang.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #337 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:18pm

Well lads I've got to go and get ready have to be at church by 12:00am tonight to say Christ has risen and then.....

To meet my foe that scoundrel from last year who broke my hard boiled red egg.

I've been polishing mine all night getting it ready for the big show down.

Of course once you lose you peel it add some salt and pepper from the salt and pepper shakers in my pocket and eat the damn thing.

Then you look forward to breaking your foes red egg the next year.

I forgot to mention all this duelling goes on in the church yard, there's red shells everywhere after the carnage.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #338 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:21pm

GordyL wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:07pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:

I am not a member of any religion I am a Christian with a faith in God.

well good for you. At least you're smart enough to recognise that organised religion is a load of croc.

Seems to go alright if you start your own religion

The funny thing was when I was younger I did the math on becoming rich and the easiest way I found on paper was to start a cult.

I never went any further as I thought I had better not mess with God Grin

. I didn't think that he would be suitably impressed.

Seriously it worked out the easiest way to exploit people and get their money.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #339 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:23pm

Ajax wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:07pm:

What I've been asking myself is why out of all the institution in the world that grant easy access to children did the paedophiles decided to enter religion and to become priests?

The answer is quite easy. These institutions were set up to establish a source of unquestioned, and unquestionable, authority. Are you surprised that spiders are attracted to that sort of power over innocents?

Shite, they were probably established by kiddy fiddlers in the first place.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #341 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:23pm

Ajax wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:

Well lads I've got to go and get ready have to be at church by 12:00am tonight to say Christ has risen and then.....

To meet my foe that scoundrel from last year who broke my hard boiled red egg.

I've been polishing mine all night getting it ready for the big show down.

Of course once you lose you peel it add some salt and pepper from the salt and pepper shakers in my pocket and eat the damn thing.

Then you look forward to breaking your foes red egg the next year.

I forgot to mention all this duelling goes on in the church yard, there's red shells everywhere after the carnage.

Happy Easter Wink

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #342 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:28pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:56pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:35pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:27pm:

Then you would have no free will, and you as a creation would be pointless

and with free will, what is the point other than to satisfy his ego?

Huh ?

you said that without free will our creation is pointless ..... so what is the point of our creation with free will? To see how many he can convince to follow him? sounds rather egotistical or narcissistic if you ask me

bump for Ash

you haven't told me what the point is yet?

Companionship.

we don't need free will for companionship .. I have a dog for a companion and he's not free to do as he wishes ... In fact, i deliberately trained his free will out of him so that he would make a more suitable companion

You bible bashers always pull out he free will argument when discussing how cruel 'god' must be, but then no one has ever given (to my knowledge) a sensical reason for free will

I am not a bible basher so no need to be rude. I discuss the subject. I would never force or ram the gospel message down anyone's throat because of the free will God has given them.

Who would you see as true love. Someone that just turned up because they loved you and looked after you and wanted to be your friend. Or someone you paid to do that for money ?

Someone who does that of free will is an honest real companion and not a gold digger.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #343 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:40pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:04pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:58pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:48pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:44pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:35pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

I go for ME, not for the priest, my soul I guess.

But you've just said that the church is man made and not a true representative of god .... then why do you follow the church? you can still believe in god without following something that you feel is false!

Jesus commanded the church, I go there for myself and for God.

I don't care for the politics.

what church did jesus command?

The bible refers to it as the Holy Catholic Church later on and also The Way not the Roman catholic Church. IE. Roman Popeville.

there is no evidence of the catholic church for at least 100 years after Jesus died, whilst the first scriptures were written about 80 years after the death of Jesus.... you ever played Chinese whispers? Cheesy

So, Have you ?

yes, I have actually

and on every occasion that I've played the game, the message at the end was very different to the message at the beginning. For example, I remember we once played with about 20 people, and a message which started out as 'the bird is blue' ended up as 'the girl did a poo' 2 minutes later ... imagine what happens to a message that goes through hundreds or thousands off people, mostly illiterate, and 80 years.

The key to the entry of a Text into the Cannon(s) of scripture were how they were verified. Things like multiple sources verifying the same event, and historical things like coins and places mentioned etc etc. The underlying current of teaching etc.

There is a whole bunch of Criteria that is looked at before a book or document can be accepted into the cannon of scripture. That's where the Roman Catholics stuffed up.
They wanted to keep control by keeping the priesthood when Jesus clearly said He was the last High Priest and that ended. Hence the mary worship , saints, praying in mosques and the ecumenical abomination that the Pope is promoting now between religions.

Have a google it is amazing how the translations still relay the same underlying Gospel message today. I knew a great theologian and encouraged people to read different translations each year to enjoy the message.

When it comes down to real study when you are discussing words you do need to know how to dig a little to get the right context and meanings of words but its not hard.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #344 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:45pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 10:03pm:

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Well good for you, and you paranoia would you like a Gold Star ?

How could you, as a Newbie, possibly, or credibly accuse me of paranoia? You are genuine Newbie or you are not. No paranoia involved at all.

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whatever ... keep playing your games

Oh, I will and I don't need your permission either. This Ashley is a fake, and you know it.

Have you figured out who I am yet?

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