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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #360 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:50pm

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:40pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:34pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Pfft, like only non-believers get the shaft Roll Eyes

It's not that hard to understand, why should you get blessed and looked after when you reject your own father. Of course non-believers get the shaft, they shaft themselves , God doesn't shaft them. Its their choice not His.

In fact you should read the story of the prodical Son to see how God waits for them to come home so they can rejoice together and He can bless them..

Regardless of how THEY SHAFT Him.

That's not what Boxy is saying. Boxy is saying that bad things happen to "good" Christians too.

How is that God looking after his chosen ones?

Boxy can speak for himself thanks.

He did. Twice.

You're evading.

No you're a troll.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #361 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:52pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:37pm:

My point, obviously, was that even believers get a life full of pain and suffering. Perhaps you are isolated from it, in your cosy, secular western city apartment?

The true believers, in their third world shitholes may be able to tell you about real suffering?

He's just testing them, because you know, he already knows their hearts but a bit of vivisection is good for the soul. There are lots of Lots. Nothing like a bit of suffering to show how much god loves you.

Or how much you need God and aren't such a big shot after all.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #362 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:52pm

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:48pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:47pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:46pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:37pm:

My point, obviously, was that even believers get a life full of pain and suffering. Perhaps you are isolated from it, in your cosy, secular western city apartment?

The true believers, in their third world shitholes may be able to tell you about real suffering?

He's just testing them, because you know, he already knows their hearts but a bit of vivisection is good for the soul. There are lots of Lots.

And all those kids with terminal illnesses. Just being called up to be angels i suppose?

What else could it be?

God is sleeping off a almighty hangover that day?

No, no. He's omniscient... every single child that dies, does so directly because he willed it. They're the rules.

All of these people, so sure of the rules. Killing each other in the name of the rules.

None of them can agree what the rules are.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #363 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:53pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:48pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:47pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:46pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:37pm:

My point, obviously, was that even believers get a life full of pain and suffering. Perhaps you are isolated from it, in your cosy, secular western city apartment?

The true believers, in their third world shitholes may be able to tell you about real suffering?

He's just testing them, because you know, he already knows their hearts but a bit of vivisection is good for the soul. There are lots of Lots.

And all those kids with terminal illnesses. Just being called up to be angels i suppose?

What else could it be?

God is sleeping off a almighty hangover that day?

Day being an interminable amount of time like the days of creation?

Would explain a great deal.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #364 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:53pm

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:40pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:34pm:

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:

Pfft, like only non-believers get the shaft Roll Eyes

It's not that hard to understand, why should you get blessed and looked after when you reject your own father. Of course non-believers get the shaft, they shaft themselves , God doesn't shaft them. Its their choice not His.

In fact you should read the story of the prodical Son to see how God waits for them to come home so they can rejoice together and He can bless them..

Regardless of how THEY SHAFT Him.

That's not what Boxy is saying. Boxy is saying that bad things happen to "good" Christians too.

How is that God looking after his chosen ones?

Boxy can speak for himself thanks.

He did. Twice.

You're evading.

No you're a troll.

Feeling "superior" to me, Ashley?

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #365 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:54pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:47pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:46pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:37pm:

My point, obviously, was that even believers get a life full of pain and suffering. Perhaps you are isolated from it, in your cosy, secular western city apartment?

The true believers, in their third world shitholes may be able to tell you about real suffering?

He's just testing them, because you know, he already knows their hearts but a bit of vivisection is good for the soul. There are lots of Lots.

And all those kids with terminal illnesses. Just being called up to be angels i suppose?

What else could it be?

It could be the fact it is appointed unto all man to die one day and some people think they should live forever.

All death is terminal.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #366 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:54pm

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:52pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:37pm:

My point, obviously, was that even believers get a life full of pain and suffering. Perhaps you are isolated from it, in your cosy, secular western city apartment?

The true believers, in their third world shitholes may be able to tell you about real suffering?

He's just testing them, because you know, he already knows their hearts but a bit of vivisection is good for the soul. There are lots of Lots. Nothing like a bit of suffering to show how much god loves you.

Or how much you need God and aren't such a big shot after all.

I'm not claiming to be a big shot. Or are you saying anyone that doesn't fall into line behind what you believe to be true is a big shot? What does it make you that we should follow what you believe?

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #367 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:55pm

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:50pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:48pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:47pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:46pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:37pm:

My point, obviously, was that even believers get a life full of pain and suffering. Perhaps you are isolated from it, in your cosy, secular western city apartment?

The true believers, in their third world shitholes may be able to tell you about real suffering?

He's just testing them, because you know, he already knows their hearts but a bit of vivisection is good for the soul. There are lots of Lots.

And all those kids with terminal illnesses. Just being called up to be angels i suppose?

What else could it be?

God is sleeping off a almighty hangover that day?

No, no. He's omniscient... every single child that dies, does so directly because he willed it. They're the rules.

Actually that's not the rules at all.

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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #368 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:56pm

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:47pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:46pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:43pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:37pm:

My point, obviously, was that even believers get a life full of pain and suffering. Perhaps you are isolated from it, in your cosy, secular western city apartment?

The true believers, in their third world shitholes may be able to tell you about real suffering?

He's just testing them, because you know, he already knows their hearts but a bit of vivisection is good for the soul. There are lots of Lots.

And all those kids with terminal illnesses. Just being called up to be angels i suppose?

What else could it be?

It could be the fact it is appointed unto all man to die one day and some people think they should live forever.

All death is terminal.

Dropping dead at 8 from terminal and excruciating bone cancer, despite being a believer and coming from a family of believers is hardly asking to live "forever".

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16624 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: When i became a Christian Reply #369 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:57pm Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:55pm: Actually that's not the rules at all. Our father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name, your will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. Sounds like heaven is not a place I want to go to, if that's the case.
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #370 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:57pm

Ashley wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

boxy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:37pm:

My point, obviously, was that even believers get a life full of pain and suffering. Perhaps you are isolated from it, in your cosy, secular western city apartment?

The true believers, in their third world shitholes may be able to tell you about real suffering?

Why I am well aware of the persecution Christians receive. Jesus never said you were going to drive a limo and live in a mansion with an easy life. He said you will be persecuted because of Him.

Simple demographics make it easier for Christians in countries where that persecution is not so rampant.

Your point wasn't obvious, it is now that you have explained yourself clearer.

Everybody has different lots in life. Mankind is free to migrate to different countries and have children in different circumstances and environments. Mankind is free to totally screw up the world that's why God is shortly going to put an end to it all.

Spiritually all those people you say are living poo lives all have the Holy Spirit inside them something you wouldn't know anything about if you are not a Christian. He is also known as the Comforter and brings a peace in adversity that is surpassed understating as it is written.

The bible also says its not as you think the least will be first and the first least in heaven. Given my circumstances and easy life at the moment I would probably end up the least. Yet I have that peace of spirit and commune with God's Holy Spirit within me.

You seem to be avoiding the point (seeing as you finally admitted to understanding it).

God created the universe, and us, and is putting us through these torments, deliberately (given that he has to power to control all).

Quite the sadist. Hardly worthy of worship, unless you're a masochist.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35578 Gender:	Re: When i became a Christian Reply #371 - Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:59pm I personally object to God being a bloke. How can a bloke give birth to anything?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35578 Gender:	Re: When i became a Christian Reply #372 - May 1^st, 2016 at 12:00am And if the Immaculate Conception is to be believed, JC was a woman ... or else where did the 'Y" chromosome come from?
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16624 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: When i became a Christian Reply #373 - May 1^st, 2016 at 12:01am mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:59pm: I personally object to God being a bloke. How can a bloke give birth to anything? Magic! How can a woman give birth to anything without a man?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35578 Gender:	Re: When i became a Christian Reply #374 - May 1^st, 2016 at 12:02am Setanta wrote on May 1^st, 2016 at 12:01am: mothra wrote on Apr 30^th, 2016 at 11:59pm: I personally object to God being a bloke. How can a bloke give birth to anything? Magic! How can a woman give birth to anything without a man? Ummm ... parthenogenesis.
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