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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #480 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:05am
 
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:03am:
mothra wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:02am:
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:01am:
Thou Dost protesteth too much me thinks. Grin



You think?

All evidence to the contrary.


My case in point Grin



That doesn't logically follow, just so you know.
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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.
 
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #481 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:06am
 
Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:04am:
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:03am:
mothra wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:02am:
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:01am:
Thou Dost protesteth too much me thinks. Grin



You think?

All evidence to the contrary.


My case in point Grin


JFYI it's "case and point". Think about it.




case in point

phrase of point

1.
an instance or example that illustrates what is being discussed.

"the ‘green revolution’ in agriculture is a good case in point"
synonyms:      example, instance, case, representative case, typical case, illustration, specimen, sample, exemplar, exemplification, occasion, occurrence
"a good case in point is distance learning"
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #482 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:07am
 
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:05am:
Rule Kingdoms with Christ and have Eternal Life and see new Worlds. I'd ask you but I already know the answer unfortunately.


Perhaps rephrase that?
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #483 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:09am
 
Thank you all for another entertaining night. Look after yourselves.
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #484 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:10am
 
Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:07am:
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:05am:
Rule Kingdoms with Christ and have Eternal Life and see new Worlds. I'd ask you but I already know the answer unfortunately.


Perhaps rephrase that?


Nah its all good.
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #485 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:11am
 
Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:09am:
Thank you all for another entertaining night. Look after yourselves.


You too setanta have a good one.
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #486 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:12am
 
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:06am:
Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:04am:
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:03am:
mothra wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:02am:
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:01am:
Thou Dost protesteth too much me thinks. Grin



You think?

All evidence to the contrary.


My case in point Grin


JFYI it's "case and point". Think about it.




case in point

phrase of point

1.
an instance or example that illustrates what is being discussed.

"the ‘green revolution’ in agriculture is a good case in point"
synonyms:      example, instance, case, representative case, typical case, illustration, specimen, sample, exemplar, exemplification, occasion, occurrence
"a good case in point is distance learning"


You got me there. You are correct.
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #487 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:13am
 
Cheers Grin
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #488 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:13am
 
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:10am:
Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:07am:
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:05am:
Rule Kingdoms with Christ and have Eternal Life and see new Worlds. I'd ask you but I already know the answer unfortunately.


Perhaps rephrase that?


Nah its all good.


I don't understand it. It's not clear. Doesn't matter. Good night.
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #489 - May 1st, 2016 at 2:14am
 
Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:13am:
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:10am:
Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:07am:
Ashley wrote on May 1st, 2016 at 2:05am:
Rule Kingdoms with Christ and have Eternal Life and see new Worlds. I'd ask you but I already know the answer unfortunately.


Perhaps rephrase that?


Nah its all good.


I don't understand it. It's not clear. Doesn't matter. Good night.


That's ok in your own time, night.
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #490 - May 1st, 2016 at 3:24am
 
Matthew 13:14-16

14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:

“ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.

15 For this people’s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.

Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.'

16 But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17 For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #491 - May 1st, 2016 at 7:46am
 
the problem for organised religion is this.


Jesus  and the Buddha  and  Mohammed almost certainly achieved "spiritual enlightenment"
What does this mean?
It means that through a process of meditation, prayer, stripping away of all that feeds the ego, they were able to arrive at "the core",  they were able to realise "the truth" .

This truth  (which i spend a little time working on) is the truth that

YOU dont exist.
That there is no YOU experiencing life.
There is no need for a YOU as a perciever of reality.
Reality simply exists and thats the end of it.

You are essentially a "thought"
and you cannot see reality becuase for YOU to see it , we would have to remove YOU from it.

Jesus spoke extensively on this truth, as did the buddha.

people obviously saw that there was something "enlightened' about these guys.
people wanted in on it.

but peoples egos prevent them from seeing it!!

the truth that jesus realised is a "truth that cannot be communicated"
it can only be experienced.

and this is where religions go wrong.
because they try though gurus and priests and rituals and books to communicate a truth that people can never understand "in thought"

you can only understand these thruths by eliminating thought.

and the ego wont let you do that.

to see the truth, the ego must die...to YOU this feels like you are dying.

i dabble in it, and have had glimpses of it, but heres the thing.

spiritual enlightenment will not make you happy in the current egoic world. it will not make you popular or rich or happy.

it will, however give you a deep sense of peace.

it is worth working towards.


most christians, buddhists and muslims would be nowhere near understanding any of this.
BUT at least they recognise that the pursuit of truth is a worthwhile, even if unattainable goal.

for those who mock them, all i would say is that you have contructed a world which is just a pathetic playground for your ego and you are so far removed from your true nature, you will never get it.
you will be a mouse on a hamspter wheel chasing happiness your entire life and you wont find it.
it cant be found in the egoic world.

the great spirtual thinkers were right and when you criticise them, it is just your ego protecting itself and making you even lower in your conscious state .
you really should try harder , but why would you.
You think that You are important ..well your ego does and it certainly does not want to die or diminish
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Re: When i became a Christian
Reply #492 - May 1st, 2016 at 9:49am
 
Ashley wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 10:28pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 9:56pm:
Ashley wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 9:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2016 at 9:35pm:
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Then you would have no free will, and you as a creation would be pointless



and with free will, what is the point other than to satisfy his ego?


Huh ?


you said that without free will our creation is pointless ..... so what is the point of our creation with free will? To see how many he can convince to follow him? sounds rather egotistical or narcissistic if you ask me



bump for Ash

you haven't told me what the point is yet?


Companionship.


we don't need free will for companionship .. I have a dog for a companion and he's not free to do as he wishes ... In fact, i deliberately trained his free will out of him so that he would make a more suitable companion

You bible bashers always pull out he free will argument when discussing how cruel 'god' must be, but then no one has ever given (to my knowledge) a sensical reason for free will


I am not a bible basher so no need to be rude. I discuss the subject. I would never force or ram the gospel message down anyone's throat because of the free will God has given them.

Who would you see as true love. Someone that just turned up because they loved you and looked after you and wanted to be your friend. Or someone you paid to do that for money ?

Someone who does that of free will is an honest real companion and not a gold digger.




gold digger? we wouldn't have gold diggers if god didn't design them that way. If you had been designed to care and love everyone, with none of  'bad' character traits that lead us to fight and kill each other, you would still love your wife? no?
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #493 - May 1st, 2016 at 12:20pm
 
Well I bring sad tidings, I duelled with my dreaded foe and he comprehensively whipped my arse on both sides of my egg.

As soon as I devoured it I promised myself I would do anything its takes to conquer him at our next meeting in approximately 12 months’ time, this is war.


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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery &  prison" Regas Feraeos
 
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Reply #494 - May 1st, 2016 at 1:15pm
 
All ye so called Christians of little faith -

repent
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for the end is nigh.

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