Please define 'equality' in the context of receiving education.  This appears to be a complex issue, and one beset by several ideologies.

Well, like any other form of discrimination, educational discrimination deprives  people of many job opportunities (as well as other lifestyle opportunities) if certain aspects of themselves are deemed undesirable. In this particular case, the aspect in question is the amount of education/training/experience the people in question do or don't have.

For example, there are many jobs out there that people are legally forbidden to do, unless they have a certain degree/qualification. Even when there are no legal obstructions to hiring an uneducated worker, many, many companies out there nonetheless discriminate against people who don't have a certain level of education/skills/experience when searching for prospective employees to fill their job vacancies. In fact, these problems are so severe that many companies have taken to importing foreigners to fill their job vacancies when there are plenty of unemployed Australian citizens right here who would be willing to give those same jobs a go.

It is also causes a devestating level of deprivation to the companies themselves, the other employees who would otherwise have been coworkers of these snubbed uneducated workers, the friends and relatives of said workers, and to the general community who would have been the consumers and witnesses of the services provided by these uneducated workers. Uneducated workers are prone to doing their jobs in more interesting, amusing ways then competent workers. Their work styles offer their companies and communities hilarious incidents and statements the likes of which competent workers rarely, if ever, offer. This is a crucial benefit that educational discrimination has long denied us all, as a community that offers no enjoyment to its residants has a very poor effect on those residants' quality of life, and this problem can in turn compound other social problems such as depression, bitterness, alcoholism, suicide, ect.

@The_Grappler, you asked about how this problem specifically effects people's ability to receive education. I'm not sure if you misunderstood the issue I'm trying to address, or whether you have a special interest in that specific aspect of educational discrimination. But to answer your question, educational discrimination is present even when seeking an education. There are, unfortunately, many college courses which students are denied access to unless they have HSC marks of a certain level. Going back to my highschool days, I can remember many of my classmates stressing about how the colleges wouldn't let them have the educational opportunities they desired unless their final HSC marks were of a certain level. It made for some immensely stressful waits during those 3 months between the exams and receiving their results and, in the more unhappy cases, some real devastating heartbreak when those results were received. That stress is both unnecessary and wrong, as is the denial to good, decent people of the education they apparently want.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 7:54pm:

The people being descriminated against are the uneducated/unqualified/unskilled people who want jobs/careers that they are currantly denied because the laws and prevailing educational discriminatory culture won't give them the same opportunities it gives to workers with education/qualifications/experience.

What's the answer? Well first and foremost we need to do away with the laws that prevent people from getting certain jobs if they don't have certain education/degrees/qualifications/training. Then, after that we need to start looking at tackling the descriminatory culture that exists within the workforce. I'm not saying that it will be easy or instantaneous, but we have made significant strides against racial and sexual descrimination (compared to where we were in the 1950s, anyway), we have newly begun tackling age discrimination (in terms of workforce participation), and there are constant efforts to get the message across that disabled workers can be just as much of a boon to the team as a worker who isn't disabled. So, without making a bloated post that goes into unnessesary detail, I think that these wars on descrimination and aversion serve as good models for a long-term plan for promoting educational equality in Australia.

I see a number of problems with this so-called education equality. For a start, it sounds like sophistry to create another mythical underclass in the collective mind of the public.

We live in an increasingly regulated and technical society. To suggest that anyone should be allowed to have a go at anything has a marvelous egalitarian ring, but insurance and litigation will not be so kind.

There is also the suggestion that college education should be open without qualifying. If I were a teacher, I would not want to have to deal with people who have not been prepared for the level of tuition I was expected to teach, especially if I am to be held accountable for the success rate.

Aussie wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 8:41pm:


Yes, thank you for bringing this up, Aussie, as this is a very important aspect of educational descrimination and also a particular area of the problem that I care deeply about.

Because the health system plays such an important role in our lives, it's extremely important that all Australians should be able to access health care by incompetant doctors & nurses. Don't get me wrong, many of our currant crop of educated health care workers are indeed kind, caring people. But seldom do they make our medical situations enjoyable spectacles for those who are watching (typically our friends & families), and the currant health care system lets us down especially in this regard with our deaths. For many of us, not all but many, our deaths will take place in a hospital (or other healthcare facility) and be presided over by a doctor and/or nurse. That's why this issue is of such crucial importance because whether or not the doctor/nurse is prone to cause funny incidents as they work essentially dictates how our deaths under them will play out. For a great many of us the question of whether the last thing we ever do (die) will distress/upset our friends & families, or make the laugh & smile, depends on whether or not the health system deals us a doctor who is unqualified enough to make the incident hilarious.

As if that weren't reason enough to demand stronger action against educational descrimination, there it also the matter of the significant lack of doctors in our medical system. For a lot of people this means that there simply aren't any doctors available to them within their community. Other people who are in need of a new doctor might find that no doctors in their area are accepting new patients because they already too overbooked (this is a problem I've struck personally). The doctor shortage also creates excessive wait times for important medical treatments - again, a problem I've encountered personally and at times been left in pain by.

There are likely many causes for these doctor shortages, but undoubtedly one of the biggest would have to be educational descrimination; the government won't let people be doctors until they've gone through several years of med school - meaning that we have heaps of people who actually aspire to give us medical treatment in Australia right now, and yet we are going to have to wait years until they are legally able to treat us! To say nothing about the many Australians who wish to become doctors/nurses, but have no interest in being educated, or can't afford it.

And of course, the pressures on the health system that come from understaffing are only further aggrivated by the fact that the law denies us access to many of the medicines we need, unless we first get a perscription from a doctor. This, too is a form of educational descrimination as it denies all of us the right to the medicines we want if we don't have the qualifications that make us legally doctors. This means that patients who know what medicine they need can't simply walk in to a pharmacist and buy it, they need to first make an appointment with a doctor, which can sometimes mean a wait of several days, perhaps even weeks, and then waste the doctor's precious time by making the doctor needlessly fill out the name of a medication that the patient already knew, on a special slip! We've excessively turned one of our most over-demanded occupations into pointless beaurocrat paper-pushers! Once again, this is a situation that I've struck too many times to count! In fact, I would dare say that out of my last 30 visits to my GP, only one of those appointments was because I actually needed the doctors services! Every other medical situation I had, I already knew which medicine I wanted before I even made an appointment to see him. Unfortunately, the law demanded that I waste his time and get him to fill out a perscription before I was able to get that medicine! In one particular incident, I was in considerable pain while I waited for my appointment time to roll around, just so I could get meds that I'd already identified via Wikipedia as what I needed!

Svengali wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 11:56pm:

We all do, brother. We all do. 

What drivel. I classify myself as highly educated, but even I know there are some things I shouldn't do because I haven't been taught.

E.g. I teach pharmacology to nurses, but I can't give an IV drip to a patient, why because I haven't been taught.


To me, this sounds like the jealous ravings of a person who was too dumb to get any sort of qualification in life and looks at the rest of us in envy.