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Karnal

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Re: Pakistani wife beaters
Reply #105 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:13pm

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 5:11pm:

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 3:55pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 3:52pm:

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 2:36pm:

moses wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

Karnal wrote Reply #62 - Yesterday at 2:33pm:

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I'm curious. How do you interpret a statement like "thou shalt not tempt thy God" as a religious duty to hate the Muselman?

When Yeheshua was dying on the cross, he asked his Father to forgive those who put him up there for their ignorance. This is the most compelling example of the new "covenant" you've described, Moses. Not only does Yeheshua do away with the eye-for-an-eye rhetoric, he taught - and practiced - forgiveness, tolerance and love for all.

No exceptions. In fact, he even tells followers what to do if hurt by an enemy - don't fight back, turn the other cheek. Those who love their enemies receive God's peace. Those who don't, as Yehesua said, are not true disciples. He made this clear too: "not all who go in my name will enter the Kingdom of heaven".

Yehesua taught his followers to leave judgement to God. He did not make an exception for those who follow different belief systems. The New Testament is clear. "Judge not, as ye surely shall be judged".

Maybe it doesn't mean what it says, eh?

Good try at guile Karnal, but it won't cut it here.

if you want to quote examples set by Christ then I give you:

Matthew 4:5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

Matthew 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Matthew 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Now you want me to cast myself down before an evil hoard of satan worshipers (muslims) who believe that they have the right rape torture and murder non believers. (they become the highest grade of muslim if they embark on this course)

So do I have to love the evilness of islam?

No I don't Karnal, it's still Matthew 4:7 as the common sense reaction to the utter evilness of islam / allah / muhammad / qur'an.

No, Moses, you have to love your neighbor as you love thyself. If you preach the opposite, there is no way you can call yourself a Christian.

Jesus being tempted in the desert has nothing to do with the Muselman. You know this.

Have you ever thought of becoming baptized in the Holy Spirit?

I guess moses just has to make sure none of his neighbours are muslim right?

Well yes - neighbors or enemies. You're meant to love them too.

What I believe Karnal is trying to say, in his ineffective way: love the sinner, hate the sin. Perhaps he is deliberately leaving the second part out.

Do you love Muslims, Moses?

I know, I know, it’s ridiculous. I’m just clarifying for FD.

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Re: Pakistani wife beaters
Reply #106 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:24pm

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 3:09pm:

That's right, you've become a Christian too, Matty. Bless you.

Name calling again Roll Eyes

, I guess I must have struck a nerve again.

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 3:09pm:

How come we non-Christians need to keep telling you guys what your religion is?

Your stupid ?, You're on repeat ? Upset as usual ? I don't know.

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 3:09pm:

Oh, that's right - it doesn't mean what it says. We just read the Bible for what it says.

The bible means exactly what it says. That's why you ignore Jesus and His teachings that make an utter ass of islamic intolerance and abuse.

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 3:09pm:

You interpret it.

Not really that's been done already in most translations and overall they all agree with each other.

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 3:09pm:

It is a jolly world, no?

Does your vocabulary allow for any other response with an IQ less than 81 ?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96483	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #107 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:36pm Looks like you have a protege, FD. You’ve trained him well.
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Ashley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 526	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #108 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:38pm It is a jolly world, no?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96483	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #109 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:43pm Ashley wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 8:38pm: It is a jolly world, no? Absolutely.
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Ashley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 526	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #110 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:44pm Absolutely , No ?
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Re: Pakistani wife beaters
Reply #111 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:52pm

Pakistan seems like a jolly place, no?

More than 500 people are killed in Pakistan each year in so-called “honour killings”, usually carried out by members of the victim’s family meting out punishment for bringing “shame” on the community.http://tribune.com.pk/story/1099692/pakistans-jirgas-in-spotlight-after-brutal-h...

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96483	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #112 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:56pm Best not to pork them, Gordy. You might get away with a Persian, but a Paki is too much trouble.
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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #113 - May 10^th, 2016 at 9:01pm Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 8:56pm: Best not to pork them, Gordy. You might get away with a Persian, but a Paki is too much trouble. Isn't that a rather glib response about such a horrible issue?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96483	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #114 - May 10^th, 2016 at 10:24pm GordyL wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 9:01pm: Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 8:56pm: Best not to pork them, Gordy. You might get away with a Persian, but a Paki is too much trouble. Isn't that a rather glib response about such a horrible issue? Oh, sorry about that. Let’s have a minute of silence, okay?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96483	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #115 - May 10^th, 2016 at 10:25pm Right after we blame Islam.
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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #116 - May 10^th, 2016 at 10:45pm Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 10:25pm: Right after we blame Islam. Not ban it. Just ensure its irrelevance?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96483	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #117 - May 10^th, 2016 at 11:02pm GordyL wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 10:45pm: Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 10:25pm: Right after we blame Islam. Not ban it. Just ensure its irrelevance? How do you do that by posting articles about dastardly Mexicans, Curries and Lebs? Warming into the Muselman, are you?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Pakistani wife beaters Reply #118 - May 11^th, 2016 at 12:32pm GordyL wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 10:45pm: Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 10:25pm: Right after we blame Islam. Not ban it. Just ensure its irrelevance? By constantly bitching about it? Yup should work
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Re: Pakistani wife beaters
Reply #119 - May 11^th, 2016 at 1:23pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 11^th, 2016 at 12:32pm:

GordyL wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 10:45pm:

Karnal wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

Right after we blame Islam.

Not ban it. Just ensure its irrelevance?

By constantly bitching about it? Yup should work Grin

Islam is irrelevant to our society. Its just something we need to take out with the trash, obviously it has no place or benefit here given what it produces.

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