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Reply #30 - May 7^th, 2016 at 12:24pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

A couple a years back the Indians in a neighbouring suburb (Harris Park) chucked on a big demo that went all around the world. It was about how they were being assaulted and racially abused. Aussies got the blame for it when it was the bloody Lebbos. That's a jolly old area. Karnal loves it.

I was in India when this was headline news. When I told people I was Australian, they paused slightly, before they smiled and said what a great country I came from. Shane Warne, Bindi Irwin, kangaroos, etc.

And polite silence on the topic of the first bulletin in every news episode.

I discussed the issue if I met people who were interested, but what Indians who haven’t been to Australia don’t understand is the multicultural nature of the cities. They think of Australians as white sahibs and memsabs, and it’s hard to convince them otherwise.

But while a while a narrative of white colonialism underpins this view, Indians have a different idea of racism, or "racialism" as they call it. Racism in India is tied up in the caste system and its ideas of Aryan supremacy. Mein Kampf is sold at every railway station bookstall - not for Hitler’s racial thesis, but its references to Aryan people.

The politics of race have changed since Mein Kampf, as have the demography of Australian east coast cities and Indian ideas about their place in the world.

But if you ever want proof of an.underlying racism towards Curries, look no further than the posts of Mr Hammer.

Homo is one of the few posters who defends the Cronulla riots and the attacks on Curries that occurred on that day.

Homo regularly gets his Curries confused with his Pakis, including his own next door neighbour.

This is a simple mistake to make in a city like Sydney where everyone comes from everywhere. Still, you’d think self-professed racists could at least try to get their races right.

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Reply #31 - May 7^th, 2016 at 1:32pm

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

A couple a years back the Indians in a neighbouring suburb (Harris Park) chucked on a big demo that went all around the world. It was about how they were being assaulted and racially abused. Aussies got the blame for it when it was the bloody Lebbos. That's a jolly old area. Karnal loves it.

I was in India when this was headline news. When I told people I was Australian, they paused slightly, before they smiled and said what a great country I came from. Shane Warne, Bindi Irwin, kangaroos, etc.

And polite silence on the topic of the first bulletin in every news episode.

I discussed the issue if I met people who were interested, but what Indians who haven’t been to Australia don’t understand is the multicultural nature of the cities. They think of Australians as white sahibs and memsabs, and it’s hard to convince them otherwise.

But while a while a narrative of white colonialism underpins this view, Indians have a different idea of racism, or "racialism" as they call it. Racism in India is tied up in the caste system and its ideas of Aryan supremacy. Mein Kampf is sold at every railway station bookstall - not for Hitler’s racial thesis, but its references to Aryan people.

The politics of race have changed since Mein Kampf, as have the demography of Australian east coast cities and Indian ideas about their place in the world.

But if you ever want proof of an.underlying racism towards Curries, look no further than the posts of Mr Hammer.

Homo is one of the few posters who defends the Cronulla riots and the attacks on Curries that occurred on that day.

Homo regularly gets his Curries confused with his Pakis, including his own next door neighbour.

This is a simple mistake to make in a city like Sydney where everyone comes from everywhere. Still, you’d think self-professed racists could at least try to get their races right.

cool story bro. Changes a little every time you you post it.

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Reply #33 - May 7^th, 2016 at 4:08pm

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

A couple a years back the Indians in a neighbouring suburb (Harris Park) chucked on a big demo that went all around the world. It was about how they were being assaulted and racially abused. Aussies got the blame for it when it was the bloody Lebbos. That's a jolly old area. Karnal loves it.

I was in India when this was headline news. When I told people I was Australian, they paused slightly, before they smiled and said what a great country I came from. Shane Warne, Bindi Irwin, kangaroos, etc.

And polite silence on the topic of the first bulletin in every news episode.

I discussed the issue if I met people who were interested, but what Indians who haven’t been to Australia don’t understand is the multicultural nature of the cities. They think of Australians as white sahibs and memsabs, and it’s hard to convince them otherwise.

But while a while a narrative of white colonialism underpins this view, Indians have a different idea of racism, or "racialism" as they call it. Racism in India is tied up in the caste system and its ideas of Aryan supremacy. Mein Kampf is sold at every railway station bookstall - not for Hitler’s racial thesis, but its references to Aryan people.

The politics of race have changed since Mein Kampf, as have the demography of Australian east coast cities and Indian ideas about their place in the world.

But if you ever want proof of an.underlying racism towards Curries, look no further than the posts of Mr Hammer.

Homo is one of the few posters who defends the Cronulla riots and the attacks on Curries that occurred on that day.

Homo regularly gets his Curries confused with his Pakis, including his own next door neighbour.

This is a simple mistake to make in a city like Sydney where everyone comes from everywhere. Still, you’d think self-professed racists could at least try to get their races right.

I think we've compared notes on this before, Karnal.
I was also in India during this time. Before I left, I'd actually had a chance to view the Channel 9 camera tapes of a certain night in Harris Park.
I'd dearly love for you to see them some time Cheesy

Perhaps being a woman (are you really?) prevented locals from asking you what they really wanted to know.

As an Australian man lobbing into the centre of town on an Enfield, after the obligatory chat about how bad the roads and bus drivers are, and how wellI did to escape death by Tata the question came up every single time.

They weren't shy to ask me at all. I was often surrounded by groups of men. Not at all aggressive, but seeking the truth, seeking answers. They felt almost betrayed because in their hearts they thought that Aussies were good people.

When I told them that in fact the aggressors were mostly Lebanese and some Islanders, they almost cried with relief knowing their feelings about Australians were not misplaced.

Now dear Karnal, I'm not saying Australians are not racists, but our racism is generally overt but very shallow and rarely takes the ugly form of racism that leads to the sport of 'Curry Bashing' so loved by your Lebanese neighbors.

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Reply #34 - May 7^th, 2016 at 6:04pm

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Now dear Karnal, I'm not saying Australians are not racists, but our racism is generally overt but very shallow and rarely takes the ugly form of racism that leads to the sport of 'Curry Bashing' so loved by your Lebanese neighbors.

I know. But the Indians were too polite to discuss the subject with me.

What makes you say it was Lebs and Islanders? I heard these rumours and I even believed them at the time. I told some Indians that too, but they didn't say ah, they just looked at me vaguely.

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Reply #35 - May 7^th, 2016 at 6:17pm

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

A couple a years back the Indians in a neighbouring suburb (Harris Park) chucked on a big demo that went all around the world. It was about how they were being assaulted and racially abused. Aussies got the blame for it when it was the bloody Lebbos. That's a jolly old area. Karnal loves it.

I was in India when this was headline news. When I told people I was Australian, they paused slightly, before they smiled and said what a great country I came from. Shane Warne, Bindi Irwin, kangaroos, etc.

And polite silence on the topic of the first bulletin in every news episode.

I discussed the issue if I met people who were interested, but what Indians who haven’t been to Australia don’t understand is the multicultural nature of the cities. They think of Australians as white sahibs and memsabs, and it’s hard to convince them otherwise.

But while a while a narrative of white colonialism underpins this view, Indians have a different idea of racism, or "racialism" as they call it. Racism in India is tied up in the caste system and its ideas of Aryan supremacy. Mein Kampf is sold at every railway station bookstall - not for Hitler’s racial thesis, but its references to Aryan people.

The politics of race have changed since Mein Kampf, as have the demography of Australian east coast cities and Indian ideas about their place in the world.

But if you ever want proof of an.underlying racism towards Curries, look no further than the posts of Mr Hammer.

Homo is one of the few posters who defends the Cronulla riots and the attacks on Curries that occurred on that day.

Homo regularly gets his Curries confused with his Pakis, including his own next door neighbour.

This is a simple mistake to make in a city like Sydney where everyone comes from everywhere. Still, you’d think self-professed racists could at least try to get their races right.

So far wrong ... not funny ... Cronulla riots had SFA to with Curries/ Curry Munchers/Pakis/Indians........

but everything to do with arrogant, disrespectful, Aussie hating Arab/ Lebanese grubs who had been plaguing to beach areas abusing/feeling up Aussie Caucasian women ....

because what they wear on the beach makes them skippy whores & deserved of their unwanted attention.

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Reply #36 - May 7^th, 2016 at 6:23pm

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:04pm:

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Now dear Karnal, I'm not saying Australians are not racists, but our racism is generally overt but very shallow and rarely takes the ugly form of racism that leads to the sport of 'Curry Bashing' so loved by your Lebanese neighbors.

I know. But the Indians were too polite to discuss the subject with me.

What makes you say it was Lebs and Islanders? I heard these rumours and I even believed them at the time. I told some Indians that too, but they didn't say ah, they just looked at me vaguely.

So Indian foreigners didn't know what a Leb or an Islander was ..... so what?

What would you expect?

Easy enough to clear up had you taken the time to explain exactly.

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Reply #37 - May 7^th, 2016 at 6:45pm

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:04pm:

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Now dear Karnal, I'm not saying Australians are not racists, but our racism is generally overt but very shallow and rarely takes the ugly form of racism that leads to the sport of 'Curry Bashing' so loved by your Lebanese neighbors.

I know. But the Indians were too polite to discuss the subject with me.

What makes you say it was Lebs and Islanders? I heard these rumours and I even believed them at the time. I told some Indians that too, but they didn't say ah, they just looked at me vaguely.

Cops, one a fairly senior guy who's been with MEOCS and Tac Ops. I know you won't consider that a credible source tho.

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Reply #38 - May 7^th, 2016 at 6:55pm

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:45pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:04pm:

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Now dear Karnal, I'm not saying Australians are not racists, but our racism is generally overt but very shallow and rarely takes the ugly form of racism that leads to the sport of 'Curry Bashing' so loved by your Lebanese neighbors.

I know. But the Indians were too polite to discuss the subject with me.

What makes you say it was Lebs and Islanders? I heard these rumours and I even believed them at the time. I told some Indians that too, but they didn't say ah, they just looked at me vaguely.

Cops, one a fairly senior guy who's been with MEOCS and Tac Ops. I know you won't consider that a credible source tho.

I don't, no. If the Curries reported those assaults, and there were convictions, there would be evidence for this argument.

Unfortunately, Gordy, Alan Jones' ex-cop friends don't count.

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Reply #39 - May 7^th, 2016 at 6:58pm

Gnads wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

A couple a years back the Indians in a neighbouring suburb (Harris Park) chucked on a big demo that went all around the world. It was about how they were being assaulted and racially abused. Aussies got the blame for it when it was the bloody Lebbos. That's a jolly old area. Karnal loves it.

I was in India when this was headline news. When I told people I was Australian, they paused slightly, before they smiled and said what a great country I came from. Shane Warne, Bindi Irwin, kangaroos, etc.

And polite silence on the topic of the first bulletin in every news episode.

I discussed the issue if I met people who were interested, but what Indians who haven’t been to Australia don’t understand is the multicultural nature of the cities. They think of Australians as white sahibs and memsabs, and it’s hard to convince them otherwise.

But while a while a narrative of white colonialism underpins this view, Indians have a different idea of racism, or "racialism" as they call it. Racism in India is tied up in the caste system and its ideas of Aryan supremacy. Mein Kampf is sold at every railway station bookstall - not for Hitler’s racial thesis, but its references to Aryan people.

The politics of race have changed since Mein Kampf, as have the demography of Australian east coast cities and Indian ideas about their place in the world.

But if you ever want proof of an.underlying racism towards Curries, look no further than the posts of Mr Hammer.

Homo is one of the few posters who defends the Cronulla riots and the attacks on Curries that occurred on that day.

Homo regularly gets his Curries confused with his Pakis, including his own next door neighbour.

This is a simple mistake to make in a city like Sydney where everyone comes from everywhere. Still, you’d think self-professed racists could at least try to get their races right.

So far wrong ... not funny ... Cronulla riots had SFA to with Curries/ Curry Munchers/Pakis/Indians........

It did to the neo-Nazis who sent the word out for the event, Gnads. It did for the Aussie flag-draped crowds who pulled Curries off trains and gave them a good talking to.

We grew here you flew here, no?

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Reply #40 - May 7^th, 2016 at 6:59pm

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:45pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:04pm:

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Now dear Karnal, I'm not saying Australians are not racists, but our racism is generally overt but very shallow and rarely takes the ugly form of racism that leads to the sport of 'Curry Bashing' so loved by your Lebanese neighbors.

I know. But the Indians were too polite to discuss the subject with me.

What makes you say it was Lebs and Islanders? I heard these rumours and I even believed them at the time. I told some Indians that too, but they didn't say ah, they just looked at me vaguely.

Cops, one a fairly senior guy who's been with MEOCS and Tac Ops. I know you won't consider that a credible source tho.

I don't, no. If the Curries reported those assaults, and there were convictions, there would be evidence for this argument.

Unfortunately, Gordy, Alan Jones' ex-cop friends don't count.

Just a cop I jog with. No AJ. Lebs can do no wrong with you. Isn't it better to accept there's a problem so you can addressed it rather than your head in the sand attitude?

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Reply #42 - May 7^th, 2016 at 7:07pm

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:59pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:55pm:

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:45pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:04pm:

GordyL wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 4:08pm:

Now dear Karnal, I'm not saying Australians are not racists, but our racism is generally overt but very shallow and rarely takes the ugly form of racism that leads to the sport of 'Curry Bashing' so loved by your Lebanese neighbors.

I know. But the Indians were too polite to discuss the subject with me.

What makes you say it was Lebs and Islanders? I heard these rumours and I even believed them at the time. I told some Indians that too, but they didn't say ah, they just looked at me vaguely.

Cops, one a fairly senior guy who's been with MEOCS and Tac Ops. I know you won't consider that a credible source tho.

I don't, no. If the Curries reported those assaults, and there were convictions, there would be evidence for this argument.

Unfortunately, Gordy, Alan Jones' ex-cop friends don't count.

Just a cop I jog with. No AJ. Lebs can do no wrong with you. Isn't it better to accept there's a problem so you can addressed it rather than your head in the sand attitude?

You haven't yet identified a problem to be addressed, Gordy. You've described a tinted home invasion in Railway Parade, Granville.

Here's one in Campbell Parade, Yidsville.

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Reply #43 - May 7^th, 2016 at 7:07pm

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 6:17pm:

Karnal wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 12:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

A couple a years back the Indians in a neighbouring suburb (Harris Park) chucked on a big demo that went all around the world. It was about how they were being assaulted and racially abused. Aussies got the blame for it when it was the bloody Lebbos. That's a jolly old area. Karnal loves it.

I was in India when this was headline news. When I told people I was Australian, they paused slightly, before they smiled and said what a great country I came from. Shane Warne, Bindi Irwin, kangaroos, etc.

And polite silence on the topic of the first bulletin in every news episode.

I discussed the issue if I met people who were interested, but what Indians who haven’t been to Australia don’t understand is the multicultural nature of the cities. They think of Australians as white sahibs and memsabs, and it’s hard to convince them otherwise.

But while a while a narrative of white colonialism underpins this view, Indians have a different idea of racism, or "racialism" as they call it. Racism in India is tied up in the caste system and its ideas of Aryan supremacy. Mein Kampf is sold at every railway station bookstall - not for Hitler’s racial thesis, but its references to Aryan people.

The politics of race have changed since Mein Kampf, as have the demography of Australian east coast cities and Indian ideas about their place in the world.

But if you ever want proof of an.underlying racism towards Curries, look no further than the posts of Mr Hammer.

Homo is one of the few posters who defends the Cronulla riots and the attacks on Curries that occurred on that day.

Homo regularly gets his Curries confused with his Pakis, including his own next door neighbour.

This is a simple mistake to make in a city like Sydney where everyone comes from everywhere. Still, you’d think self-professed racists could at least try to get their races right.

So far wrong ... not funny ... Cronulla riots had SFA to with Curries/ Curry Munchers/Pakis/Indians........

It did to the neo-Nazis who sent the word out for the event, Gnads. It did for the Aussie flag-draped crowds who pulled Curries off trains and gave them a good talking to.

We grew here you flew here, no?

What do you think caused the friction in the first plave? Something or nothing?

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Reply #44 - May 7^th, 2016 at 7:17pm

Gnads wrote on May 7^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

All direction of animosity was well known

& it was toward Arab/Leb/Muslims.

Not Pakis & Indians

in all news reports/video there wasn't one Indian/Paki

it was all arab/muslim.

re: Neo Nazis .... bullshit.

Strange. Here's one rather cranky group. I wonder what they were doing there.

Quote:

The Patriotic Youth League (PYL) was a youth organisation in Australia. They described themselves as 'radical nationalists'. Their logo was the Eureka Flag.

The PYL was founded in late 2002 by Stuart McBeth, a student at the University of Newcastle who had been involved with the One Nation Party. It acted as the youth wing of the Australia First Party, under the mentorship of former National Socialist Party of Australia member and National Action leader Dr. James Saleam.

The PYL allegedly had many links to international White Supremacist groups, including the New Zealand National Front and Volksfront. Andrew Wilson, then the president of the PYL's Sydney branch, told the Sydney Morning Herald that McBeth had founded the Australian branch of the Volksfront organisation.[1]

Before closing their main website, the PYL advertised neo-Nazi bands.[2]

At its peak the PYL was believed to have branches in Sydney, Newcastle, Canberra and Melbourne. The PYL's Melbourne branch was closed in 2006 by its leader Luke Connors. He claimed that there were too many neo-Nazis in the Australia First Party and the League, and that they were holding the party back.[3] The PYL's Newcastle chapter folded shortly thereafter.

Because two of their branches have been closed and their website has been defunct since 2006, the PYL are believed to be disbanded. In early 2010, the Australia First Party founded a new youth organisation, the Eureka Youth League. [1]

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