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Reply #45 - May 9^th, 2016 at 9:30pm

Gnads wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Aussie wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

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I still havent seen a word from yourself about this mans employees failure to receive their entitlements.

I have made plenty of comments. Firstly, they were never his personal employees. They always were the employees of a Company like BHP.

Secondly, he did not sack them or fail to pay their entitlements. The Administrator did after ignoring a $M23 package Clive had offered to save the lot of them.

Bullshyte ... then why did "he"(not the company) give 50 odd of them a Mercedes & OS holidays?

You're so full of it Aussie ... "it's not his company so he's not responsible ... but he's the sole shareholder so he should be paid his dividend & he's entitled to do what he wants with the profits... he didn't sack the employees & not pay the employees their entitlements ... the Administrator did" ....

more crap .... he wouldn't have had to go begging off the state govt if he'd left some money in the kitty.

Unbelievable.

No wonder this country is on the path to being rooted with people like you with logic like yours defending CONMAN grubs like Clive Palmer.

Nothing to do with logic. It is Law.

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Reply #46 - May 9^th, 2016 at 10:42pm

Aussie wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:

Gnads wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Aussie wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

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I still havent seen a word from yourself about this mans employees failure to receive their entitlements.

I have made plenty of comments. Firstly, they were never his personal employees. They always were the employees of a Company like BHP.

Secondly, he did not sack them or fail to pay their entitlements. The Administrator did after ignoring a $M23 package Clive had offered to save the lot of them.

Bullshyte ... then why did "he"(not the company) give 50 odd of them a Mercedes & OS holidays?

You're so full of it Aussie ... "it's not his company so he's not responsible ... but he's the sole shareholder so he should be paid his dividend & he's entitled to do what he wants with the profits... he didn't sack the employees & not pay the employees their entitlements ... the Administrator did" ....

more crap .... he wouldn't have had to go begging off the state govt if he'd left some money in the kitty.

Unbelievable.

No wonder this country is on the path to being rooted with people like you with logic like yours defending CONMAN grubs like Clive Palmer.

Nothing to do with logic. It is Law.

what LAW is that?

..you are telling us its the LAW that anyone can have a business rip the guts out of it whilst the market is going really well...then when trading slows.... it goes into receivership because the cash flow has stalled and there is nothing in the bank frank.......

and the sole owner doesnt have to face any consequences because he can do what ever he chooses because its his money.. and he doesnt in fact employ people the business does....so he owes not a thing...

because as you say its the LAW... Roll Eyes

well I never... I knew Qld had some dodgy LAWS but not this DODGY no wonder clive is sticking his thumb up at all those employees..

no wonder QLd is full of con men.. they must be laughing all the way to the bank..

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Clive's Titanic dream goes under Reply #47 - May 9^th, 2016 at 10:43pm btw its got.. nothing to do with LOGIC its the LAW> now I am beginning to understand aussiespeak.
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Re: Clive's Titanic dream goes under
Reply #48 - May 9^th, 2016 at 11:09pm

cods wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 10:42pm:

Aussie wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:

Gnads wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Aussie wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

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I still havent seen a word from yourself about this mans employees failure to receive their entitlements.

I have made plenty of comments. Firstly, they were never his personal employees. They always were the employees of a Company like BHP.

Secondly, he did not sack them or fail to pay their entitlements. The Administrator did after ignoring a $M23 package Clive had offered to save the lot of them.

Bullshyte ... then why did "he"(not the company) give 50 odd of them a Mercedes & OS holidays?

You're so full of it Aussie ... "it's not his company so he's not responsible ... but he's the sole shareholder so he should be paid his dividend & he's entitled to do what he wants with the profits... he didn't sack the employees & not pay the employees their entitlements ... the Administrator did" ....

more crap .... he wouldn't have had to go begging off the state govt if he'd left some money in the kitty.

Unbelievable.

No wonder this country is on the path to being rooted with people like you with logic like yours defending CONMAN grubs like Clive Palmer.

Nothing to do with logic. It is Law.

what LAW is that?

..you are telling us its the LAW that anyone can have a business rip the guts out of it whilst the market is going really well...then when trading slows.... it goes into receivership because the cash flow has stalled and there is nothing in the bank frank.......

and the sole owner doesnt have to face any consequences because he can do what ever he chooses because its his money.. and he doesnt in fact employ people the business does....so he owes not a thing...

because as you say its the LAW... Roll Eyes

well I never... I knew Qld had some dodgy LAWS but not this DODGY no wonder clive is sticking his thumb up at all those employees..

no wonder QLd is full of con men.. they must be laughing all the way to the bank..

Oh dear. It is Federal Law, cods, nothing to do with Qld.

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Reply #50 - May 9^th, 2016 at 11:11pm

Agnes wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 11:09pm:

if you ever begin to really understand Aussie speak then you better be very careful cods. You would be one brick short of a sh!t house and classified certifiable.

except that in this case Aussie is right

Companies are a separate legal entity to their shareholders ....

why do you think people form companies?

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Reply #51 - May 10^th, 2016 at 7:42am

To do what Palmer has done

& yes I'm well aware many other shysters like him

have done & are still doing it

that doesn't make it right

& the "LAW" should be changed.

Nor does it change the fact that Palmer is a slimey grub

and as far as I'm concerned he should be sold up lock stock & barrel

so the QNI workers get their entitlements(1st)

& then as many creditors paid what they are owed.

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Reply #52 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:14am

Aussie wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 11:09pm:

cods wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 10:42pm:

Aussie wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:

Gnads wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:

Aussie wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 3:21pm:

Quote:

I still havent seen a word from yourself about this mans employees failure to receive their entitlements.

I have made plenty of comments. Firstly, they were never his personal employees. They always were the employees of a Company like BHP.

Secondly, he did not sack them or fail to pay their entitlements. The Administrator did after ignoring a $M23 package Clive had offered to save the lot of them.

Bullshyte ... then why did "he"(not the company) give 50 odd of them a Mercedes & OS holidays?

You're so full of it Aussie ... "it's not his company so he's not responsible ... but he's the sole shareholder so he should be paid his dividend & he's entitled to do what he wants with the profits... he didn't sack the employees & not pay the employees their entitlements ... the Administrator did" ....

more crap .... he wouldn't have had to go begging off the state govt if he'd left some money in the kitty.

Unbelievable.

No wonder this country is on the path to being rooted with people like you with logic like yours defending CONMAN grubs like Clive Palmer.

Nothing to do with logic. It is Law.

what LAW is that?

..you are telling us its the LAW that anyone can have a business rip the guts out of it whilst the market is going really well...then when trading slows.... it goes into receivership because the cash flow has stalled and there is nothing in the bank frank.......

and the sole owner doesnt have to face any consequences because he can do what ever he chooses because its his money.. and he doesnt in fact employ people the business does....so he owes not a thing...

because as you say its the LAW... Roll Eyes

well I never... I knew Qld had some dodgy LAWS but not this DODGY no wonder clive is sticking his thumb up at all those employees..

no wonder QLd is full of con men.. they must be laughing all the way to the bank..

Oh dear. It is Federal Law, cods, nothing to do with Qld.

WHAT LAW.....IS THAT?...

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Re: Clive's Titanic dream goes under
Reply #53 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:18am

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 11:11pm:

Agnes wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 11:09pm:

if you ever begin to really understand Aussie speak then you better be very careful cods. You would be one brick short of a sh!t house and classified certifiable.

except that in this case Aussie is right

Companies are a separate legal entity to their shareholders ....

why do you think people form companies?

so the LAW says he isnt accountable.. no matter what he does...

so why are the govt saying they will go after him for the employees entitlements if they cant???????

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Reply #54 - May 10^th, 2016 at 8:22am

so far the govts fed and state are looking at over $70 million.... Roll Eyes

and you say the LAW says he can do it.. and still run for the senate... Shocked

Gnads wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 7:42am:

To do what Palmer has done

& yes I'm well aware many other shysters like him

have done & are still doing it

that doesn't make it right

& the "LAW" should be changed.

Nor does it change the fact that Palmer is a slimey grub

and as far as I'm concerned he should be sold up lock stock & barrel

so the QNI workers get their entitlements(1st)

& then as many creditors paid what they are owed.

gnads...

the reason I cant stand him is because he is in PARLIAMENT....he is pretending to work for the people opf this country... when he couldnt give a stuff about his or his business' employees.....

hes a fraud...they should chuck him out in disgrace.. ans then fine all those who voted for him..

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Clive's Titanic dream goes under Reply #55 - May 10^th, 2016 at 10:38am Aussie, the fact that Palmer went beserk and bought Mercs for some of his workers in an extraordinary year doesn't excuse for one second the pilfering of his workers' superannuation funds. Let's get this thing in perspective huh?
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Reply #56 - May 10^th, 2016 at 11:19am

cods wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 8:18am:

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 11:11pm:

Agnes wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 11:09pm:

if you ever begin to really understand Aussie speak then you better be very careful cods. You would be one brick short of a sh!t house and classified certifiable.

except that in this case Aussie is right

Companies are a separate legal entity to their shareholders ....

why do you think people form companies?

so the LAW says he isnt accountable.. no matter what he does...

so why are the govt saying they will go after him for the employees entitlements if they cant???????

because the libs are a bunch of stupiid fa rken more ons

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75097 Gender:	Re: Clive's Titanic dream goes under Reply #57 - May 10^th, 2016 at 11:22am Gnads wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 7:42am: & the "LAW" should be changed. I agree ... especially in the case of private or family owned companies .... they should make the owners personal liable for the companies debts.
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Reply #58 - May 10^th, 2016 at 11:56am

red baron wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 10:38am:

Aussie, the fact that Palmer went beserk and bought Mercs for some of his workers in an extraordinary year doesn't excuse for one second the pilfering of his workers' superannuation funds. Let's get this thing in perspective huh?

Clive Palmer had a huge windfall of QN profits from 2002-2011 which probably created most of his wealth.

However, Palmer took risks for that. He purchased a losing business that BHP was dumping and got lucky.

The government made a lot of money in company and income taxes from QN profits as well. The government made a lot of money and didn't take any risk.

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Reply #59 - May 10^th, 2016 at 12:02pm

John Smith wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 11:19am:

cods wrote on May 10^th, 2016 at 8:18am:

John Smith wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 11:11pm:

Agnes wrote on May 9^th, 2016 at 11:09pm:

if you ever begin to really understand Aussie speak then you better be very careful cods. You would be one brick short of a sh!t house and classified certifiable.

except that in this case Aussie is right

Companies are a separate legal entity to their shareholders ....

why do you think people form companies?

so the LAW says he isnt accountable.. no matter what he does...

so why are the govt saying they will go after him for the employees entitlements if they cant???????

because the libs are a bunch of stupiid fa rken more ons

what about your mob in Qld.. they wan t him to pay the money back as well??.. Roll Eyes

..

god I think I am beginning to understand... hes a Qlder and Qld Nickle is in QLd.. and some lefties will do anything to protect a Qlder.. even

thomo

no matter how rotten they are...

I still havent seen what the law says in this regard.....

if this is the case.. why does anyone go bankrupt?????? Roll Eyes

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