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Reply #60 - May 10th, 2016 at 12:07pm
 
Svengali wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 11:56am:
red baron wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 10:38am:
Aussie, the fact that Palmer went beserk and bought Mercs for some of his workers in an extraordinary year doesn't excuse for one second the pilfering of his workers' superannuation funds. Let's get this thing in perspective huh?


Clive Palmer had a huge windfall of QN profits from 2002-2011 which probably created most of his wealth.

However, Palmer took risks for that. He purchased a losing business that BHP was dumping and got lucky.

The government made a lot of money in company and income taxes from QN profits as well. The government made a lot of money and didn't take any risk.



crap the govt is US the people and the minerals in the ground belong to everyone.. not just the Palmers of this world...he got a licence to dig it up and sell to the highest bidder.....he did not get a licence to steal their earnings....something every worker in this country expects to get.......

Palmer didnt take over QN until 2009...

hes a con man he drained it..for his own BENEFIT....
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Reply #61 - May 10th, 2016 at 12:19pm
 
cods wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 12:07pm:
Svengali wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 11:56am:
red baron wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 10:38am:
Aussie, the fact that Palmer went beserk and bought Mercs for some of his workers in an extraordinary year doesn't excuse for one second the pilfering of his workers' superannuation funds. Let's get this thing in perspective huh?


Clive Palmer had a huge windfall of QN profits from 2002-2011 which probably created most of his wealth.

However, Palmer took risks for that. He purchased a losing business that BHP was dumping and got lucky.

The government made a lot of money in company and income taxes from QN profits as well. The government made a lot of money and didn't take any risk.



crap the govt is US the people and the minerals in the ground belong to everyone.. not just the Palmers of this world...he got a licence to dig it up and sell to the highest bidder.....he did not get a licence to steal their earnings....something every worker in this country expects to get.......

Palmer didnt take over QN until 2009...

hes a con man he drained it..for his own BENEFIT....


Palmer and QN weren't mining, they were refining. QN has not mined ore in Australia since 1995 and imported all its ore.

https://www.qni.com.au/about-qn/our-history/
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Reply #62 - May 10th, 2016 at 12:24pm
 
Regardless. The morbidly obese sleazebag is a crook. Anyone who votes for him should be tarred with the same brush!
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Reply #63 - May 10th, 2016 at 12:42pm
 
Its very arguable that all of the accumulated profits in QNI was Clive Palmer's personal wealth and he was entitled to extract it.
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Reply #64 - May 10th, 2016 at 12:49pm
 
cods wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 12:02pm:
god I think I am beginning to understand... hes a Qlder and Qld Nickle is in QLd.. and some lefties will do anything to protect a Qlder.. even thomo




how does my telling you the LAW equate to what I want?
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Reply #65 - May 10th, 2016 at 12:50pm
 
cods wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 12:07pm:
crap the govt is US the people and the minerals in the ground belong to everyone



not what you were saying when you were arguing against the mining tax  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #66 - May 10th, 2016 at 1:54pm
 
Svengali wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 12:42pm:
Its very arguable that all of the accumulated profits in QNI was Clive Palmer's personal wealth and he was entitled to extract it.


Well he should not be entitled to "extract" it and leave behind debt & failure to pay his employees entitlements.

If you run/own a company you should have a legal responsibility to pay your bills & your workers wages & entitlements.

Especially whilst at the time you were in the process of refitting/renovating your $5.3 million dollar super yacht to trade it in and take delivery of a bigger,better & more expensive one.

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Reply #67 - May 10th, 2016 at 3:16pm
 
Bottom-of-The-Harbour anyone?
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Reply #68 - May 10th, 2016 at 3:26pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 12:50pm:
cods wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 12:07pm:
crap the govt is US the people and the minerals in the ground belong to everyone



not what you were saying when you were arguing against the mining tax  Cheesy Cheesy



the TAX was passed on thats why..ok I know it was one of the lefts best ideas that didnt raise anything bar the price of our minerals and drove what customers we had away...... but dont let that stop you.
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Reply #69 - May 10th, 2016 at 3:57pm
 
Svengali wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 12:19pm:
cods wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 12:07pm:
Svengali wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 11:56am:
red baron wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 10:38am:
Aussie, the fact that Palmer went beserk and bought Mercs for some of his workers in an extraordinary year doesn't excuse for one second the pilfering of his workers' superannuation funds. Let's get this thing in perspective huh?


Clive Palmer had a huge windfall of QN profits from 2002-2011 which probably created most of his wealth.

However, Palmer took risks for that. He purchased a losing business that BHP was dumping and got lucky.

The government made a lot of money in company and income taxes from QN profits as well. The government made a lot of money and didn't take any risk.



crap the govt is US the people and the minerals in the ground belong to everyone.. not just the Palmers of this world...he got a licence to dig it up and sell to the highest bidder.....he did not get a licence to steal their earnings....something every worker in this country expects to get.......

Palmer didnt take over QN until 2009...

hes a con man he drained it..for his own BENEFIT....


Palmer and QN weren't mining, they were refining. QN has not mined ore in Australia since 1995 and imported all its ore.

https://www.qni.com.au/about-qn/our-history/





maybe so  b ut Palmer ran the business into the ground even down to no maintenance....he not only drained the business of cash.. leaving his man power in the lurch  he has also done the same to many in New Caledonia..

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/closure-of-palmers-queensland-nickel-wo...


Clive Palmer’s capacity for creat­ing mayhem ranges widely, from sponsoring a bloc of unruly parliamentarians to pursuing his self-declared “hobby” of litigation against his estranged Chinese business partner, to holding nearly 800 workers’ jobs in the balance at his Queensland Nickel smelter.

Now the businessman and MP’s reach extends to the rugged mountains of New Caledonia, where his company has a leading role in an imbroglio that threatens the economic and social stability of the French South ­Pacific territory.

In those mountains, men such as Max Foucher and Laurent Gauci perform the tough, grinding task of transporting nickel ore destined for Mr Palmer from the mines on the mountain tops down to the ports, where it is shipped to his Queensland Nickel refinery in Townsville.

They’re not employees of the mines but contractors, running small enterprises of a few or as ­little as one vehicle, whose livelihood is hard and uncertain at the best of times.


and dont forget the Fed govt[read taxpayer] is picking up the tab for his employees   Roll Eyes

I guess thats ok to bad about the business' in T'ville...and New Caledonia
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Reply #70 - May 10th, 2016 at 4:02pm
 
I wonder when cods will accept that Palmer did not shut the refinery down.  The Administrator did.

Have you worked out the name of that Federal Act yet cods?
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Reply #71 - May 10th, 2016 at 4:06pm
 
In the end it all turned out to be smoke and mirrors...There's only so much a snake oil salesman can manage in the wonderful world of Oz.
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Reply #72 - May 10th, 2016 at 4:09pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 4:02pm:
I wonder when cods will accept that Palmer did not shut the refinery down.  The Administrator did.

Have you worked out the name of that Federal Act yet cods?


How about YOU supply a LINK ... or can't you find it?
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Reply #73 - May 10th, 2016 at 4:09pm
 
red baron wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
In the end it all turned out to be smoke and mirrors...There's only so much a snake oil salesman can manage in the wonderful world of Oz.


There is $ 300+ million debt. The creditors need their heads read for going in so deep.

The Administrator is apparently about to pull the plug because there is no money to pay its fees. So the taxpayer will become the administrator.

Perhaps it would have been cheaper all round if the State Government, which appears flush with funds after buying a cattle business, listened to QNI and came up with some spare change.
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Reply #74 - May 10th, 2016 at 5:47pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 10th, 2016 at 4:02pm:
I wonder when cods will accept that Palmer did not shut the refinery down.  The Administrator did.

Have you worked out the name of that Federal Act yet cods?



not interested in workin git out..

there are a few LAWS I dont agree with.. so I am waiting for someone to spell it out for me.. you and gweggy being experts I thought you would be the first to heave ho  and floor us all with your knowledge..

I dont give a monkeys about the law if its protecting that man.

then he is an even bigger scoundrel than I have given him credit for...

it means he has covered his ass all the way through.....more cunning than any fox.... Angry Angry Angry

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