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Reply #30 - May 13^th, 2016 at 7:49pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2016 at 6:19pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

sure - using my completely arbitrarily subjective definition of "good", why not? Cheesy

Would you describe terrorism supporters as good people?

Sure - I can appreciate that most people who voted for Barak Obama or George Bush are merely misguided and are at heart 'good' people.

At least they weren't terrorist supporters.

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Reply #31 - May 13^th, 2016 at 8:37pm

99.99% of 1.5 billion = 1,499,850,000 supposedly good muslims?

Which means a mere 150,000 are the rapists, torturers and mass murderers.

How come 1.499 billion muslims have absolutely no control over a lousy 150,000 islamists?

Something fishy here.

The baddies are running the show, doing exactly what they like right around the globe, the 1.499 billion supposedly innocent muslims are the most ineffectual useless people on this planet.

Methinks they and their apologists are lying, the 1.499 billion mythical moderates are absolutely riddled with supporters, there is no other logical explanation.

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Reply #32 - May 13^th, 2016 at 8:41pm

moses wrote on May 13^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

99.99% of 1.5 billion = 1,499,850,000 supposedly good muslims?

Which means a mere 150,000 are the rapists, torturers and mass murderers.

How come 1.499 billion muslims have absolutely no control over a lousy 150,000 islamists?

Something fishy here.

The baddies are running the show, doing exactly what they like right around the globe, the 1.499 billion supposedly innocent muslims are the most ineffectual useless people on this planet.

Methinks they and their apologists are lying, the 1.499 billion mythical moderates are absolutely riddled with supporters, there is no other logical explanation.

Because its all bullchit. Everyone knows you have to be sick in the mind to be a muslim.

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Reply #33 - May 14^th, 2016 at 7:53am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2016 at 6:19pm:

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2016 at 3:10pm:

sure - using my completely arbitrarily subjective definition of "good", why not? Cheesy

Would you describe terrorism supporters as good people?

Sure - I can appreciate that most people who voted for Barak Obama or George Bush are merely misguided and are at heart 'good' people.

So when Muslims like yourself and apologists like leftwinger reassure us that the vast majority of Muslims are the good ones, they are including supporters of Islamic terrorism among the good Muslims?

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Reply #34 - May 14^th, 2016 at 9:47am

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

So when Muslims like yourself and apologists like leftwinger reassure us that the vast majority of Muslims are the good ones, they are including supporters of Islamic terrorism among the good Muslims?

I thought you might have understood the point I just made FD. "Good" people - which we can take to be decent, ordinary, mainstream people all around the world, muslim and non-muslim "support" (again, a woefully inadequately defined word) all manner of atrocities. Personally, in terms of the (predictable, and indeed anticipated) suffering and disaster it caused, I can't think of a more evil thing to support than the invasion of Iraq - terrorism on steroids as far as I'm concerned. And yet, here we had a consistent majority of Americans and a fair chunk of Australians "supporting" it. Still, you and I both know the vast majority of these people are "good", despite their misguided views. Even you spinelessly apologise for it - what does that make you hmmm?

I frankly can't see much difference between that and muslims who say Osama bin Laden was good, or that terrorist acts are justified to defend Islam (note its always justified in terms of defense). The sad fact is, most of us "support" terrorism and/or equivalent atrocities, because we are constantly manipulated by propaganda that expertly twists such atrocities as something noble, or at the very least, benign. Its the same whether its invading sovereign nations, drone strikes that terrorise Pakistani school kids, or shooting up cafes and bars.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49380 At my desk.	Re: 99.99% of Muslims are 'good' Reply #35 - May 14^th, 2016 at 3:12pm Quote: Still, you and I both know the vast majority of these people are "good", despite their misguided views. 99.99% of them?
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Reply #36 - May 14^th, 2016 at 3:33pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 9:47am:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 7:53am:

So when Muslims like yourself and apologists like leftwinger reassure us that the vast majority of Muslims are the good ones, they are including supporters of Islamic terrorism among the good Muslims?

I thought you might have understood the point I just made FD. "Good" people - which we can take to be decent, ordinary, mainstream people all around the world, muslim and non-muslim "support" (again, a woefully inadequately defined word) all manner of atrocities. Personally, in terms of the (predictable, and indeed anticipated) suffering and disaster it caused, I can't think of a more evil thing to support than the invasion of Iraq - terrorism on steroids as far as I'm concerned. And yet, here we had a consistent majority of Americans and a fair chunk of Australians "supporting" it. Still, you and I both know the vast majority of these people are "good", despite their misguided views. Even you spinelessly apologise for it - what does that make you hmmm?

I frankly can't see much difference between that and muslims who say Osama bin Laden was good, or that terrorist acts are justified to defend Islam (note its always justified in terms of defense). The sad fact is, most of us "support" terrorism and/or equivalent atrocities, because we are constantly manipulated by propaganda that expertly twists such atrocities as something noble, or at the very least, benign. Its the same whether its invading sovereign nations, drone strikes that terrorise Pakistani school kids, or shooting up cafes and bars.

This is such complete nonsense. "Everything is terrorism - therefore there is no Islamic terrorism."

Laughable.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49380 At my desk.	Re: 99.99% of Muslims are 'good' Reply #37 - May 14^th, 2016 at 3:38pm What Gandalf is trying to say is that supporting GWB is morally equivalent to supporting OBL. Therefor Islamic extremists are actually the 'good Muslims.' It's a whole new spin on the good Muslim angle.
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Reply #38 - May 14^th, 2016 at 5:15pm

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

What Gandalf is trying to say is that supporting GWB is morally equivalent to supporting OBL. Therefor Islamic extremists are actually the 'good Muslims.' It's a whole new spin on the good Muslim angle.

FD,

And who gave you permission to interpret the meaning of [the] words that appear in gandalf's posts!!!

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Reply #39 - May 14^th, 2016 at 5:53pm

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

What Gandalf is trying to say is that supporting GWB is morally equivalent to supporting OBL. Therefor Islamic extremists are actually the 'good Muslims.' It's a whole new spin on the good Muslim angle.

Didn't you change your mind to support the invasion of Iraq yourself?

Does this not make you a terrorist?

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Reply #40 - May 14^th, 2016 at 6:08pm

Karnal wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

What Gandalf is trying to say is that supporting GWB is morally equivalent to supporting OBL. Therefor Islamic extremists are actually the 'good Muslims.' It's a whole new spin on the good Muslim angle.

Didn't you change your mind to support the invasion of Iraq yourself?

Does this not make you a terrorist?

Remember, Iraq was invaded because the prevailing ethos was that they are just like everyone else, yearning to be free and democratic like everyone else around the world. The place went down the toilet, like Lybia and the rest of them, precisely because they are not like everyone else, they do not yearn to be free and democratic.

So the mistake was not the invasion of Iraq, but imagining that they can be liberated from their deep and binding Islamic and tribal bonds into freedom, democracy, compromise, peaceful; political negotiation and non-sectarian cultural coexistence.

We overestimeted them, again, as we always do with the Idi Amins, Mugabes, Chaveses, Khomeinis, Pol Pots, etc. We pretended they are like us.

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Reply #41 - May 14^th, 2016 at 6:15pm

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

What Gandalf is trying to say is that supporting GWB is morally equivalent to supporting OBL. Therefor Islamic extremists are actually the 'good Muslims.' It's a whole new spin on the good Muslim angle.

Supporting what the Nuremberg trial described as the "supreme crime" of unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation, or terrorising school kids with drones, most certainly is at least as morally equivalent to supporting OBL. Clearly our MSM has done a sterling job in convincing us otherwise though.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #42 - May 14^th, 2016 at 6:27pm

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

Karnal wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

What Gandalf is trying to say is that supporting GWB is morally equivalent to supporting OBL. Therefor Islamic extremists are actually the 'good Muslims.' It's a whole new spin on the good Muslim angle.

Didn't you change your mind to support the invasion of Iraq yourself?

Does this not make you a terrorist?

Remember, Iraq was invaded because the prevailing ethos was that they are just like everyone else, yearning to be free and democratic like everyone else around the world. The place went down the toilet, like Lybia and the rest of them, precisely because they are not like everyone else, they do not yearn to be free and democratic.

That's what FD says. He blames tinted inbreeding.

What do you blame?

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Reply #43 - May 14^th, 2016 at 6:54pm

Karnal wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

Karnal wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

What Gandalf is trying to say is that supporting GWB is morally equivalent to supporting OBL. Therefor Islamic extremists are actually the 'good Muslims.' It's a whole new spin on the good Muslim angle.

Didn't you change your mind to support the invasion of Iraq yourself?

Does this not make you a terrorist?

Remember, Iraq was invaded because the prevailing ethos was that they are just like everyone else, yearning to be free and democratic like everyone else around the world. The place went down the toilet, like Lybia and the rest of them, precisely because they are not like everyone else, they do not yearn to be free and democratic.

That's what FD says. He blames tinted inbreeding.

What do you blame?

I blame the idiocy that insists that all peoples, cultures, countries want the same thing. I blame that stupidity.

And I believe you are the foremost proponent of that stupidity on these boards.

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Reply #44 - May 14^th, 2016 at 7:07pm

Karnal wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 6:27pm:

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

Karnal wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 3:38pm:

What Gandalf is trying to say is that supporting GWB is morally equivalent to supporting OBL. Therefor Islamic extremists are actually the 'good Muslims.' It's a whole new spin on the good Muslim angle.

Didn't you change your mind to support the invasion of Iraq yourself?

Does this not make you a terrorist?

Remember, Iraq was invaded because the prevailing ethos was that they are just like everyone else, yearning to be free and democratic like everyone else around the world. The place went down the toilet, like Lybia and the rest of them, precisely because they are not like everyone else, they do not yearn to be free and democratic.

That's what FD says. He blames tinted inbreeding.

What do you blame?

Do you have a limited vocabulary or something, you seem very repetitive in your word choice and sentence forming ?

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