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Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage
Reply #45 - May 14^th, 2016 at 8:29pm

Storm wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 4:06am:

Raven wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 4:03am:

It's funny listening to Christians complain about how homosexuality when at first glance it appears the Nazarene and the New Testament say nothing about the subject.

However there is one verse from the bible that Raven actually likes, which is the Nazarene supporting homosexuals.

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Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given For there are eunuchs who were born that way; others were made that way by men; and still others live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it

Matthew 19:11-12

There are three types of eunuchs.

Eunuchs made that way by men is of course castrated males

One who lives like a eunuch is a man who foreswears marriage to better serve God

But it is the third definition which interests us today. 2000 years ago, “natural” or “born,” eunuchs were not associated with missing testicles. Rather, they were associated with stereotypically effeminate characteristics and behaviour.

As a reasonably informed person of his time, Jesus would have been aware of this common view of eunuchs. Yet he very matter-of-factly asserts that some people are simply born that way.

According to the Nazarene these people held a special place in the Kingdome of heaven.

Just as in Matthew 8:5-13 (and to a lesser extent Luke 7:1-10) the Nazarene heals the male servant of a Centurion.

However the word used to describe the servant, pias, often meant a particular type of servant. One who was “his master’s male lover.”

The Nazarene teaches that most people are created for heterosexual marriage. But, unlike some modern Christians, the Nazarene does not see this as the only honourable way to live. He acknowledges that some human beings have been created by god to follow a less common, but equally legitimate path. There are some who have been eunuchs from birth — made that way by god.

eunuch

ˈjuːnək/Submit
noun
plural noun: eunuchs

a man who has been castrated, especially (in the past) one employed to guard the women's living areas at an oriental court.

an ineffectual person.

"a nation of political eunuchs"

Roll Eyes

Nothing to do with faggots.

In the time of the New Testament one who was "born eunuch" was considered an effeminate man. One who still had all their bits but was "castrated" in their masculinity.

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Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage
Reply #46 - May 14^th, 2016 at 10:05pm

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 8:16am:

There is one faith and all else is sin.

Some souls have turned so far from God that pain is the only way to call them back.

Dear Yadda -
didn't you see my post above?

have you not a comment?

bobby,

You are an atheist, aren't you ?

Fearing God is stupid.

Right ?

Staying away from what God hates, is stupid.

Right ?

So why would i pursue a YT that you have [link] posted ?

p.s.
i have not got the plugin to immediately view YT's [i do not want it either]
i live +200 km from my capital city, and i'm on a D/L limit plan
so if i don't know even the YT title, i usually won't bother

i mean, an invite to view a YT from an atheist ?
i mean, it may be a YT like this one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE

.....which i remember, was a complete waste of 6 min ? of my precious life

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16624 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage Reply #47 - May 14^th, 2016 at 10:10pm Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:05pm: .....which i remember, was a complete waste of 6 min ? of my precious life Your life is not precious Yadda. You're slated for eternity. Your life is endless so stop being such a jew with it.
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Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage
Reply #48 - May 14^th, 2016 at 10:15pm

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 8:16am:

There is one faith and all else is sin.

Some souls have turned so far from God that pain is the only way to call them back.

Dear Yadda -
didn't you see my post above?

have you not a comment?

bobby,

You are an atheist, aren't you ?

Fearing God is stupid.

Right ?

Staying away from what God hates, is stupid.

Right ?

So why would i pursue a YT that you have [link] posted ?

p.s.
i have not got the plugin to immediately view YT's [i do not want it either]
i live +200 km from my capital city, and i'm on a D/L limit plan
so if i don't know even the YT title, i usually won't bother

i mean, an invite to view a YT from an atheist ?
i mean, it may be a YT like this one;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RT6rL2UroE

.....which i remember, was a complete waste of 6 min ? of my precious life

Dear Yadda,
I challenge the minds of religious people like you &
you don't like it.
In this case religion led to the Spanish Inquisition.

forgiven

namaste

PS - get a decent internet service where you can watch YouTube.

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Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage
Reply #49 - May 14^th, 2016 at 10:24pm

Raven wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 4:03am:

It's funny listening to Christians complain about how homosexuality when at first glance it appears the Nazarene and the New Testament say nothing about the subject.

However there is one verse from the bible that Raven actually likes, which is the Nazarene supporting homosexuals.

.....
.....

According to the Nazarene these people held a special place in the Kingdome of heaven.

Just as in Matthew 8:5-13 (and to a lesser extent Luke 7:1-10) the Nazarene heals the male servant of a Centurion.

However the word used to describe the servant, pias, often meant a particular type of servant. One who was “his master’s male lover.”

The Nazarene teaches that most people are created for heterosexual marriage. But, unlike some modern Christians, the Nazarene does not see this as the only honourable way to live. He acknowledges that some human beings have been created by god to follow a less common, but equally legitimate path. There are some who have been eunuchs from birth — made that way by god.

Raven wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 8:29pm:

In the time of the New Testament one who was "born eunuch" was considered an effeminate man.

One who still had all their bits but was "castrated" in their masculinity.

Raven,

If you truly care about, knowing, what God our creator hates, and what God our creator loves, then i suggest that you undertake the task of reading the bible, all the way through, from the beginning.

You can find a few free Bible app's online.

I prefer the KJV [King James Version].

Start at Genesis 1:1

Then when you have read the bible, all the way through, come back and tell us about what God our creator loves.

Raven,

You can make a good choice.

But it is up to you, to do that.

.

James 4:4
.....know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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boxy Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 400 Gender:	Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage Reply #50 - May 14^th, 2016 at 11:14pm All religious and spiritual books belong in the garbage... perhaps not all that they represent, however.
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Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage
Reply #51 - May 15^th, 2016 at 12:24am

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:24pm:

Raven wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 4:03am:

It's funny listening to Christians complain about how homosexuality when at first glance it appears the Nazarene and the New Testament say nothing about the subject.

However there is one verse from the bible that Raven actually likes, which is the Nazarene supporting homosexuals.

.....
.....

According to the Nazarene these people held a special place in the Kingdome of heaven.

Just as in Matthew 8:5-13 (and to a lesser extent Luke 7:1-10) the Nazarene heals the male servant of a Centurion.

However the word used to describe the servant, pias, often meant a particular type of servant. One who was “his master’s male lover.”

The Nazarene teaches that most people are created for heterosexual marriage. But, unlike some modern Christians, the Nazarene does not see this as the only honourable way to live. He acknowledges that some human beings have been created by god to follow a less common, but equally legitimate path. There are some who have been eunuchs from birth — made that way by god.

Raven wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 8:29pm:

In the time of the New Testament one who was "born eunuch" was considered an effeminate man.

One who still had all their bits but was "castrated" in their masculinity.

Raven,

If you truly care about, knowing, what God our creator hates, and what God our creator loves, then i suggest that you undertake the task of reading the bible, all the way through, from the beginning.

Already have Yadda. Good book, bit slow in the middle.

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Svengali Gold Member Offline Please don't thank me Posts: 3474 Gender:	Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage Reply #52 - May 15^th, 2016 at 9:47am Yadda is now professing ecclesiastical expertise on homosexuality. Is there no end to Yadda?
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Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage
Reply #53 - May 15^th, 2016 at 10:14am

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Dear Yadda,
I challenge the minds of religious people like you &
you don't like it.
In this case religion led to the Spanish Inquisition.

forgiven

namaste

PS - get a decent internet service where you can watch YouTube.

Is there no end to Yadda?

Apparently not.

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Svengali Gold Member Offline Please don't thank me Posts: 3474 Gender:	Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage Reply #54 - May 15^th, 2016 at 11:33am Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:24pm: whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God Yadda believes god hates environmentalists, philanthropists and humanists.
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Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage
Reply #55 - May 15^th, 2016 at 1:52pm

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

Dear Yadda,
I challenge the minds of religious people like you

& you don't like it.

In your dreams bobby.

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

In this case religion led to the Spanish Inquisition.

forgiven

namaste

The Spanish Inquisition.

bobby,

I blame God, .....don't you ???

Oh yes, thats right, you do too.

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:15pm:

PS - get a decent internet service where you can watch YouTube.

The NBN will be passing my place very soon.

......any decade now.

In the meantime, i have the blessings of copper wire and wireless.

[i was on dialup for about 15 years. ....such is life. ]

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106527 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage Reply #56 - May 15^th, 2016 at 2:00pm Dear Yadda, do you agree: "Some souls have turned so far from God that pain is the only way to call them back."
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Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage
Reply #57 - May 15^th, 2016 at 2:03pm

Setanta wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:10pm:

Yadda wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:

.....which i remember, was a complete waste of 6 min ? of my precious life

Your life is not precious Yadda.

You're slated for eternity.

Your life is endless so stop being such a jew with it.

Setanta,

LOL

Someone thinks that my life here is precious.
.....otherwise i wouldn't be here i couldn't be here, still.

I've lived a life.

More so, when i was much younger.

But it will be a good day, imo, to die.

I've seen enough.

Ecclesiastes 7:1
A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth.
2 It is better to go to the house of mourning, than to go to the house of feasting: for that is the end of all men; and the living will lay it to his heart.
3 Sorrow is better than laughter: for by the sadness of the countenance the heart is made better.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106527 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage Reply #58 - May 15^th, 2016 at 2:06pm Dear Yadda, on Ozpolitic you mix & socialise with the ungodly: Psalms 1 KJV [1] Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly.
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Re: Bible and all it represents belongs in the garbage
Reply #59 - May 15^th, 2016 at 2:19pm

Bobby. wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

Dear Yadda,

do you agree:

"Some souls have turned so far from God that pain is the only way to call them back."

bobby,

Some people respond well to correction.

And some people do not respond well to correction.

Take me.

I can be a very determined and persistent person.

But i'm not a glutton for punishment.

bobby,

Our mind, is a logic machine. !!!!

But many men [and women] only use logic, and will only purpose their mind, to continually pursue that [or 'things'] which are going to sate their immediate desire.

Coz, quite naturally, we want pleasure!

bobby,

We are supposed to be smart enough to choose, to [eventually] stop chasing sensual gratification.

And to start 'working things out'.

But some people only want to [continue to] follow that path which promises them more pleasure.

Psalms 111:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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