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Re: What is a racist comment?
Reply #30 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:04pm

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences.

Not only totally incorrect, but a mischievous misrepresentation of the word 'racist' and 'racism'.

Somewhere back there, only a few years ago, the lexicologists working out of Oxford decided to widen the goal-posts on the words 'racist' and 'racism' so they would also cover exotic cultures and religions - thus making it a 'taboo' and a breach of the Vilification Acts to voice honest appraisals and criticism of immigrant cultures and religions brought in from the 'Third World'.

The expanded definition was designed to further help stamp out freedom of speech where this might upset certain immigrant sensitivities of an inferiority complex nature.

No, Herbie, the Australian legal definition of racial and religious vilification has not changed. The term was designed thus in response to the racial and religious policies of the Nazis, a political movement close to your own heart.

Arbeit macht frei, nein?

Actually muslims were in bed with the Nazi's and shared the same ideals so the Nazi's would be more close to your heart it seems.

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Re: What is a racist comment?
Reply #31 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:20pm

Ashley wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 3:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences.

Not only totally incorrect, but a mischievous misrepresentation of the word 'racist' and 'racism'.

Somewhere back there, only a few years ago, the lexicologists working out of Oxford decided to widen the goal-posts on the words 'racist' and 'racism' so they would also cover exotic cultures and religions - thus making it a 'taboo' and a breach of the Vilification Acts to voice honest appraisals and criticism of immigrant cultures and religions brought in from the 'Third World'.

The expanded definition was designed to further help stamp out freedom of speech where this might upset certain immigrant sensitivities of an inferiority complex nature.

No, Herbie, the Australian legal definition of racial and religious vilification has not changed. The term was designed thus in response to the racial and religious policies of the Nazis, a political movement close to your own heart.

Arbeit macht frei, nein?

Actually muslims were in bed with the Nazi's and shared the same ideals so the Nazi's would be more close to your heart it seems.

Actually, Matty, Indian, Javan and Malay Muslims fought on the side of the allies. The Turks were neutral. The Persians did whatever they could to isolate the Russians. They ended up in Mother's bosom.

I believe you're referring to those shifty Muslims in Casablanca. You know, the "usual suspects".

It is a jolly world, no?

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Ashley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 526	Re: What is a racist comment? Reply #32 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:46pm No the world isn't jolly with muslims in it at all, all of them should be exterminated. I was talking about muslims in bed with the Nazis as stated. Lovely bunch those muslims in bed with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi's eh gandy.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35494 Gender:	Re: What is a racist comment? Reply #33 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:49pm All of them should be exterminated? How very Christian of you Ashley.
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Ashley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 526	Re: What is a racist comment? Reply #34 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:54pm mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:49pm: All of them should be exterminated? How very Christian of you Ashley. Yet here you are again trolling people. Why such bitterness gran ?
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35494 Gender:	Re: What is a racist comment? Reply #35 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:58pm Yyou are calling for people to be exterminated and you're calling me bitter? Priceless.
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Ashley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 526	Re: What is a racist comment? Reply #36 - May 17^th, 2016 at 6:05pm mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:58pm: Yyou are calling for people to be exterminated and you're calling me bitter? Priceless. Too right, think about it, its PURE GOLD... Dismissed
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Re: What is a racist comment?
Reply #37 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 11:27am

What are people's thoughts about this gem from moses:

moses wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 4:39pm:

The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate,

Racist? Not according to FD - its actually sexism.

freediver wrote on May 26^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

This is actually sexism. The fact that he specifies all Muslim men means he is not talking about race. If he said the Arab ones were, that would be racist.

FD, could you entertain the idea that your idea of "race" is not necessarily other people's? When people assault Sikhs, thinking they are muslim, would you call that a "racist" attack - even though they are supposedly only attacking people because of their beliefs? When someone categorises the entire muslim population into a genetic sub-group, as moses does here, is that not 'racializing' muslims?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: What is a racist comment?
Reply #38 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 11:31am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2016 at 11:55am:

Firstly, the disclaimer I always make when mentioning racism, that I don't believe there to be any such thing as human 'races', so we can dispense with the usual "Islamophobia can't be racism because Islam is not a race". "Racism" is merely a byword for prejudice and bigotry directed at people on the basis of their ethnic, religious or physical differences. If you prefer to use the word "prejudice" or "bigotry", thats fine by me.

So then, what makes a racist comment? According to FD the phrase "arabia for arabs" is "blatant racism", but the following gem can apparently be dismissed:

moses wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 4:39pm:

The result to day is that if there's 1.5 billion muslims, half are men 750 million inbred low intellect muslim men all squatting down to urinate,

discuss.

Do you agree there are different breeds of dogs, and that these breeds have varying temperaments?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: What is a racist comment? Reply #39 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 3:58pm temperaments, dogs, muslims...? yes I'm starting to see where you're going with this Nicole.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96227 Gender:	Re: What is a racist comment? Reply #40 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 4:41pm Not racist, G. Temperaments and dogs aren't a race either.
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Re: What is a racist comment?
Reply #41 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:20pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

temperaments, dogs, muslims...?

yes I'm starting to see where you're going with this Nicole.

Not at all. You strike me as an intelligent, rather likeable man. But to live in Australia, I think you should have to renounce your faith.

Nonetheless, the thread question is about racism, not Islam.

Do you accept that within the description of "dog" there are different temperaments, so that certain breeds are recognised as more intelligent than others, whilst others are recognised as more aggressive?

Do you accept - within humans - certain races are more intelligent than others? For example, Asians are more intelligent than Caucasians, although Caucasians produce more geniuses?

Do you accept that white men can't jump, when compared to their negro counterparts, but negros are useless and unrepresentative in the pool, when it comes to swimming?

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Re: What is a racist comment?
Reply #42 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:22pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

temperaments, dogs, muslims...?

yes I'm starting to see where you're going with this Nicole.

Not at all. You strike me as an intelligent, rather likeable man. But to live in Australia, I think you should have to renounce your faith.

I agree, dear, but the problem is, we still can't tell. The Muselman, you see, practices taqiyya.

To live in Australia, you should have to renounce your race as well. That way, we'll clear out all the Muselmen in one fell sweep.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: What is a racist comment? Reply #43 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:24pm You seem to be making a heroic case for racism Nicole. Still, I'm not sure what this has to do with the topic.
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Re: What is a racist comment?
Reply #44 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:24pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:22pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 3:58pm:

temperaments, dogs, muslims...?

yes I'm starting to see where you're going with this Nicole.

Not at all. You strike me as an intelligent, rather likeable man. But to live in Australia, I think you should have to renounce your faith.

I agree, dear, but the problem is, we still can't tell. The Muselman, you see, practices taqiyya.

To live in Australia, you should have to renounce your race as well. That way, we'll clear out all the Muselmen in one fell sweep.

Yeah that's an option. The other is to return to the White Australia Policy. It's far less complex.

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