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Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA
Reply #60 - May 17^th, 2016 at 8:53pm

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:51pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:36pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:27pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:16pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:04pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

I agree with pretty much everything she said.

She is , in fact, a classic example of the kind of Muslim i don't want being demonised by the Islamophobics on here.

Geezuz christ you are f#kin retarded, all of the islamaphobes on here love Aayan Hirsi you brain dead twat!

She's a Muslim, try again.

She unshackled her mind from that diseased religion.
Youhave no idea what you're talking about
Furthermore about what you said this morning, do you know she had to leave the Netherlands because her safety there could not be garaunteed. I blame people like you. You think you don't support terrorists but you actually do because YOU give them the breathing space and oxygen they need to exist.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Dutch: [aːˈjaːn ˈɦiːrsi ˈaːli], born Ayaan Hirsi Magan,[a] on 13 November 1969) is a Dutch-American activist, author, and former politician of Somali origin. She is a leading opponent of female genital mutilation, and calls for a reformation of Islam.[1] She is supportive of women's rights and is an atheist. Her latest book was released in 2015 and is called: Heretic: Why Islam Needs a Reformation Now.

I've never supported terrorists Gordy.

Perhaps you'd like to provide a link to support what you accuse me of?

I'm sure you condemn the tip of the spear, the guys who do the wet work, but you support the apparatus.

No. I don't. Not on either side.

You have no idea. You didn't even know Ayaan is an atheist who is reviled as an apostate by conservative muslims and has many death fatwas issued against her.

Just keep up the thinking that everyone is the same deep down and we can sort it out over a nice cup of tea.

Please find a link in which i support terrorists Gordy.

You made the claim, now back it up.

You support conservative Islam which incubates violent jihad.

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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 35220 Gender:	Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA Reply #61 - May 17^th, 2016 at 8:58pm No. I don't. I don't support conservative Islam at all. Find one example of my support of conservative Islam.
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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA Reply #62 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:05pm mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:58pm: No. I don't. I don't support conservative Islam at all. Find one example of my support of conservative Islam. You are so amazingly stupid that you cannot even recognise the fact that the time has come for you to shut up and slink quietly off to avoid further embarrassment.
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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA Reply #63 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:09pm mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:58pm: No. I don't. I don't support conservative Islam at all. Find one example of my support of conservative Islam. How many times have you call me an Islamophobe? My issue is with conservative Islam. Perhaps you and I have a different level of what we consider conservative?
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Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA
Reply #64 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:11pm

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

No. I don't. I don't support conservative Islam at all.

Find one example of my support of conservative Islam.

How many times have you call me an Islamophobe?
My issue is with conservative Islam.
Perhaps you and I have a different level of what we consider conservative?

I call you an Islamophobe because you do not distinguish between Muslims and repressive regimes.

You always site "Muslims".

1.6 people on this planet are Muslims. Most of them ar peace loving. You seem to overlook that on a daily basis.

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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 35220 Gender:	Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA Reply #66 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:16pm ian wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:14pm: https://architectguy.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/hitchens-quote.jpg You can add that to the healthily long list o things i don;t agree with Christopher Hitchens on.
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Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA
Reply #67 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:17pm

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

No. I don't. I don't support conservative Islam at all.

Find one example of my support of conservative Islam.

How many times have you call me an Islamophobe?
My issue is with conservative Islam.
Perhaps you and I have a different level of what we consider conservative?

I call you an Islamophobe because you do not distinguish between Muslims and repressive regimes.

You always site "Muslims".

1.6 people on this planet are Muslims. Most of them ar peace loving. You seem to overlook that on a daily basis.

This is where you're wrong. You think 99.999999999% of Muslims are peaceful and just a few baddies.

That's how a child thinks. The truth is much more complex. There are huge overlaps in the thinking of your peaceful muslims with the hardcore jihadists.

Violent Islam doesn't come out of a vacuum. It comes out of Islam.

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Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA
Reply #68 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:18pm

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:17pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

No. I don't. I don't support conservative Islam at all.

Find one example of my support of conservative Islam.

How many times have you call me an Islamophobe?
My issue is with conservative Islam.
Perhaps you and I have a different level of what we consider conservative?

I call you an Islamophobe because you do not distinguish between Muslims and repressive regimes.

You always site "Muslims".

1.6 people on this planet are Muslims. Most of them ar peace loving. You seem to overlook that on a daily basis.

This is where you're wrong. You think 99.999999999% of Muslims are peaceful and just a few baddies.

That's how a child thinks. The truth is much more complex. There are huge overlaps in the thinking of your peaceful muslims with the hardcore jihadists.

Violent Islam doesn't come out of a vacuum. It comes out of Islam.

Where did i say that Gordy?

Link please?

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Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA
Reply #69 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:19pm

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:17pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

No. I don't. I don't support conservative Islam at all.

Find one example of my support of conservative Islam.

How many times have you call me an Islamophobe?
My issue is with conservative Islam.
Perhaps you and I have a different level of what we consider conservative?

I call you an Islamophobe because you do not distinguish between Muslims and repressive regimes.

You always site "Muslims".

1.6 people on this planet are Muslims. Most of them ar peace loving. You seem to overlook that on a daily basis.

This is where you're wrong. You think 99.999999999% of Muslims are peaceful and just a few baddies.

That's how a child thinks. The truth is much more complex. There are huge overlaps in the thinking of your peaceful muslims with the hardcore jihadists.

Violent Islam doesn't come out of a vacuum. It comes out of Islam.

Where did i say that Gordy?

Link please?

You said it two posts ago knuckle head

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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 35220 Gender:	Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA Reply #70 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:19pm You've so far been unable to establish a precedent for anything you've accused me of. Could it be you've got me all wrong?
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Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA
Reply #71 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:20pm

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:18pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:17pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 8:58pm:

No. I don't. I don't support conservative Islam at all.

Find one example of my support of conservative Islam.

How many times have you call me an Islamophobe?
My issue is with conservative Islam.
Perhaps you and I have a different level of what we consider conservative?

I call you an Islamophobe because you do not distinguish between Muslims and repressive regimes.

You always site "Muslims".

1.6 people on this planet are Muslims. Most of them ar peace loving. You seem to overlook that on a daily basis.

This is where you're wrong. You think 99.999999999% of Muslims are peaceful and just a few baddies.

That's how a child thinks. The truth is much more complex. There are huge overlaps in the thinking of your peaceful muslims with the hardcore jihadists.

Violent Islam doesn't come out of a vacuum. It comes out of Islam.

Where did i say that Gordy?

Link please?

You said it two posts ago knuckle head

I said 99.99999999% did i?

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Ashley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 526	Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA Reply #72 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:21pm mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:19pm: You've so far been unable to establish a precedent for anything you've accused me of. Could it be you've got me all wrong? No one has to prove anything to you your just a boring troll anyway.
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GordyL Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4365 Hate Town Gender:	Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA Reply #73 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:22pm mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:19pm: You've so far been unable to establish a precedent for anything you've accused me of. Could it be you've got me all wrong? Ok let's sort something out. Do you think there is a reluctance of the left to call out conservative Islam for fear of being called Islamophobic /racist?
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Re: Aayan Hirsi Ali on QandA
Reply #74 - May 17^th, 2016 at 9:24pm

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:22pm:

mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

You've so far been unable to establish a precedent for anything you've accused me of.

Could it be you've got me all wrong?

Ok let's sort something out.

Do you think there is a reluctance of the left to call out conservative Islam for fear of being called Islamophobic /racist?

Nope.

I think the starting point has been shifted so heavily into the camp of Islamophobia that it is all the left can do to remind the Islamophobes that Islam is not represented by terrorists or repressive regimes.

If you want to have a sensible discussion about Islam and the ways in which it is abused on the planet, you need to start at ground zero, not an hysterical, shrill banshee cry of "Muslim's baaaaad, mmmmm'k?".

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