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Reply #150 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:03pm
 
Grendel wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 5:53pm:
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-age-editorial/royal-commission-shows-the-ne...

You see even The Age the biggest mainstream LW Rag in Oz agrees.

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That union officials would consider it appropriate to strike side deals with employers and solicit secret commissions that pumped up the union's coffers (but not the conditions of its members), or to falsify membership numbers and concoct fraudulent records to keep much of this under the radar, is a beggarly state of affairs. It is evidence of a sick culture, one that prevailed at the Victorian branch of the Australian Workers' Union last decade.


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The royal commission examining the financial affairs of trade unions has spent much of this year probing every angle of the AWU's dealings with a range of companies. No one comes out of this unblemished: not the union, its officials, nor the companies involved.


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There were two sides to the corrupt payments identified by the royal commission. The companies that paid commissions to the AWU did so to maintain industrial peace or to ensure they did not have to pay workers their proper rates. They conspired in the skulduggery. They facilitated or acquiesced by waving through fraudulent invoices and other documentation. They must be held accountable.

The relationship between unions and employers should not be perennially hostile and combative. But, inside the AWU, there is evidence that a culture of trickery, conspiracy and illicit dealing gained traction last decade.


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For those who maintain the commission is a witch-hunt, you are in denial. Here is the nub. Improper and corrupt activities by union officials corrode the trust of workers – and that will subvert the power of the union movement. It is imperative that the financial corruption, sly dealings, intimidation and standover tactics practised by some Australian unions are exposed, punished and eradicated.


Now I'm sure you didn't mean to say that the commission did not find people criminally guilty, because we all know it can't, because it is not a court of law.  We all know many cased have been sent to the public prosecutions office for further investigation by police and if necessary a trial.






typical goose ... you put up an editorial opinion and you think it's fact  Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #151 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:05pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:56pm:
Webtoad wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:48pm:
It is a shame the AFP didn't investigate Gillard further when she was PM.


Grin

They probably feared being impaled by that long harpoon nose of hers.



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Re: AFP Raids Labor Offices
Reply #152 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:05pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:01pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
Aussie wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
Aussie wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:43pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:40pm:
When are the sackings going to happen? Breaking into company computers is a sackable  offence for everybody else. I bet Labor does nothing about Conroy and his pet maggots. They didn't do anything about Burke and his travel rorts. Labor is so on the nose and won't be getting back into power anytime soon.


Who said anyone, let alone Conroy, broke into anyone's computer?
Even if he didn't receiving stolen goods is just as bad.


What do you reckon ought be the ultimate outcome for the thief (s/he who leaked) of those goods and the receiver of them......i.e Fairfax et al?
Prosecuted and sacked. Conroy, his associates who had leaked info and  the leaker. SACKED!!


Great.  I guess Pyne, Roy and Brough are in your gun sights as well.
Don't know what they've done. If they are involved in breaking into company computers then they deserve to be sacked too.
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Reply #153 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:06pm
 
Webtoad wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:48pm:
It is a shame the AFP didn't investigate Gillard further when she was PM.


why? the 4 or 5 investigations that had cleared her weren't enough for you? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #154 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:07pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
Webtoad wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:48pm:
It is a shame the AFP didn't investigate Gillard further when she was PM.


why? the 4 or 5 investigations that had cleared her weren't enough for you? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
She was cleared but the magistrate said that what she was involved in was highly questionable.
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Reply #155 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:07pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:05pm:
If they are involved in breaking into company computers then they deserve to be sacked too.



you're an idiot if you think anyone broke into a computer.



wait, you're an idiot regardless
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Reply #156 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:08pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:07pm:
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
Webtoad wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:48pm:
It is a shame the AFP didn't investigate Gillard further when she was PM.


why? the 4 or 5 investigations that had cleared her weren't enough for you? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
She was cleared but the magistrate said that what she was involved in was highly questionable.


did he? got evidence of that?
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Reply #157 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:13pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:08pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:07pm:
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
Webtoad wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:48pm:
It is a shame the AFP didn't investigate Gillard further when she was PM.
A trade union royal commission document has cleared Ms Gillard of committing a crime in giving advice on setting up a slush fund, but described her professional conduct as 'questionable'......


There was a lot of unanswered questions that couldn't be proved. He boyfriend at the time was giving her stolen money which she used to renovate her house. I hope she didn't know where the money was coming from.

why? the 4 or 5 investigations that had cleared her weren't enough for you? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
She was cleared but the magistrate said that what she was involved in was highly questionable.


did he? got evidence of that?

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Reply #158 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:14pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:08pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:07pm:
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
Webtoad wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 6:48pm:
It is a shame the AFP didn't investigate Gillard further when she was PM.


why? the 4 or 5 investigations that had cleared her weren't enough for you? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
She was cleared but the magistrate said that what she was involved in was highly questionable.


did he? got evidence of that?
trade union royal commission document has cleared Ms Gillard of committing a crime in giving advice on setting up a slush fund, but described her professional conduct as 'questionable'......


There was a lot of unanswered questions that couldn't be proved. He boyfriend at the time was giving her stolen money which she used to renovate her house. I hope she didn't know where the money was coming from.

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Reply #159 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:14pm
 
Hmmmm....just smell the fear by the Left.

Wonder if Bull Shitten will undertake a last minute reshuffle now.

He'll probably sack those 2 staffers.

Interesting days ahead  Grin

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Reply #160 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:16pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
Hmmmm....just smell the fear by the Left.

Wonder if Bull Shitten will undertake a last minute reshuffle now.

He'll probably sack those 2 staffers.

Interesting days ahead  Grin

I bet they don't sack Conroy Lisa. Conroy had stolen info passing it out in parliament. How guilty is that!!
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Reply #161 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:19pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
He boyfriend at the time was giving her stolen money which she used to renovate her house.



That has been debunked so many times and still you keep repeating it. Typical rightard ... make a claim and then insist that it's true but then when cleared say ' there are a lot of unanswered questions'  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


what you mean is that the answers weren't what you wanted so you'll keep pretending they're unanswered Roll Eyes
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Reply #162 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:20pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
Hmmmm....just smell the fear by the Left.

Wonder if Bull Shitten will undertake a last minute reshuffle now.

He'll probably sack those 2 staffers.

Interesting days ahead  Grin



Which two staffers?  Which Shadow Ministers will be re-shuffled? 

How about Fairfax and other major schmedia outlets who also received the leaks, it seems?

When will the AFP be raiding them?
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Reply #163 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:20pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
Hmmmm....just smell the fear by the Left.

Wonder if Bull Shitten will undertake a last minute reshuffle now.

He'll probably sack those 2 staffers.

Interesting days ahead  Grin



go back to your chokos lisa .... you have no idea
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Reply #164 - May 20th, 2016 at 7:21pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 20th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
He boyfriend at the time was giving her stolen money which she used to renovate her house.



That has been debunked so many times and still you keep repeating it. Typical rightard ... make a claim and then insist that it's true but then when cleared say ' there are a lot of unanswered questions'  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


what you mean is that the answers weren't what you wanted so you'll keep pretending they're unanswered Roll Eyes


Yeas, Jeremy Stoljar left questions unasked.  Mr Hammer would never have done that.
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