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May 22nd, 2016 at 9:38am
 
60,000 'tortured to death in Syrian jails'

At least 60,000 people have died due to torture and maltreatment in Syrian jails since a revolt against President Bashar al-Assad broke out five years ago, a monitoring group says, quoting sources within the country's security forces.

The pro-opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights on Saturday reported that the figure of 60,000 deaths came from reliable sources, primarily in the air force intelligence and state security agencies and at the notorious Sednaya prison near Damascus.

The victims died as a direct result of torture or due to a lack of food and medicine inside the detention facilities, the UK-based monitoring group said.

The observatory said that using other sources, it had itself documented the deaths of 14,456 detainees, including 110 children under the age of 18.

The Syrian opposition has pushed for the release of detainees as a humanitarian measure to facilitate the resumption of peace talks in the Swiss city of Geneva.

UN rights investigators in February accused the Syrian government of carrying out an extermination policy among its prisoners.

The investigators cited testimony from witnesses who recounted inmates dying from "torture, disease, and appalling prison conditions" and then being buried in mass graves.

Earlier this month, inmates in Hama prison in central Syria rioted and took guards hostage in protest over an attempt to transfer several prisoners to Sednaya prison.

The inmates feared the transferees, who had been sentenced to death by ad-hoc military courts, would face execution, the observatory reported at the time.

Authorities regained control after agreeing to the release of dozens of detainees, according to the monitoring group.

The observatory called on the UN to bring pressure to bear on the Syrian government for the release of what it said were more than 200,000 remaining detainees.

Syria's conflict, which began with peaceful protests in March 2011, has spiralled into a multi-sided civil war that has cost a quarter of a million lives and displaced half the country's population, according to UN estimates.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/60000-tortured-to-death-in-syri...


Should we double our 12,000 Syrian Refugees, and speed up the uptake?
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Reply #1 - May 22nd, 2016 at 9:44am
 
And how do you propose we help the Syrians?
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Reply #2 - May 22nd, 2016 at 9:49am
 
____ wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:38am:
60,000 'tortured to death in Syrian jails'

At least 60,000 people have died due to torture and maltreatment in Syrian jails since a revolt against President Bashar al-Assad broke out five years ago, a monitoring group says, quoting sources within the country's security forces.

The pro-opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights on Saturday reported that the figure of 60,000 deaths came from reliable sources, primarily in the air force intelligence and state security agencies and at the notorious Sednaya prison near Damascus.

The victims died as a direct result of torture or due to a lack of food and medicine inside the detention facilities, the UK-based monitoring group said.

The observatory said that using other sources, it had itself documented the deaths of 14,456 detainees, including 110 children under the age of 18.

The Syrian opposition has pushed for the release of detainees as a humanitarian measure to facilitate the resumption of peace talks in the Swiss city of Geneva.

UN rights investigators in February accused the Syrian government of carrying out an extermination policy among its prisoners.

The investigators cited testimony from witnesses who recounted inmates dying from "torture, disease, and appalling prison conditions" and then being buried in mass graves.

Earlier this month, inmates in Hama prison in central Syria rioted and took guards hostage in protest over an attempt to transfer several prisoners to Sednaya prison.

The inmates feared the transferees, who had been sentenced to death by ad-hoc military courts, would face execution, the observatory reported at the time.

Authorities regained control after agreeing to the release of dozens of detainees, according to the monitoring group.

The observatory called on the UN to bring pressure to bear on the Syrian government for the release of what it said were more than 200,000 remaining detainees.

Syria's conflict, which began with peaceful protests in March 2011, has spiralled into a multi-sided civil war that has cost a quarter of a million lives and displaced half the country's population, according to UN estimates.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/60000-tortured-to-death-in-syri...


Should we double our 12,000 Syrian Refugees, and speed up the uptake?


We could streamline the intake procedure, 23 in 8 months on a 12000 promise whilst we drop bombs on their heads reeks of injustice.
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Reply #3 - May 22nd, 2016 at 9:49am
 
By fast processing and assisted integration into Australian society.

Also Australia separating from the US alliance and forming an independent foreign policy.

Stronger targets on climate change, via a 1.5 degree of global warming. So to decrease more countries following Syria's downward spiral.
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Reply #4 - May 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am
 
____ wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:49am:
By fast processing and assisted integration into Australian society.

Also Australia separating from the US alliance and forming an independent foreign policy.

Stronger targets on climate change, via a 1.5 degree of global warming. So to decrease more countries following Syria's downward spiral.


So you will help Syrians by splitting from the US foreign policy because it's US foreign policy that's currently causing millions to be displaced and be killed?  Which policy at present is causing the Syrians to be killed or flee?
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Reply #5 - May 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am
 
that you think climate change has anything to do with Syria shows just how deluded you are Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #6 - May 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am
 
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am:
that you think climate change has anything to do with Syria shows just how deluded you are Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

That he thinks Syrians fleeing is the result of US foreign policy shows how deluded he is.
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Reply #7 - May 22nd, 2016 at 9:56am
 
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am:
that you think climate change has anything to do with Syria shows just how deluded you are Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



To think climate collapse doesn't assist despots and terror organisations, shows you are the deluded one.

Hungry angry people are more likely to put a vest on and blow themselves and their victims up.
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Reply #8 - May 22nd, 2016 at 9:58am
 
____ wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:56am:
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am:
that you think climate change has anything to do with Syria shows just how deluded you are Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



To think climate collapse doesn't assist despots and terror organisations, shows you are the deluded one.

Hungry angry people are more likely to put a vest on and blow themselves and their victims up.


Yes, having a totalitarian government had nothing to do with it.  It was all Americas fault, and climate change.  And the solution is to have a unilateral foreign policy and bring all Syrians to Australia instead of help in bring peace to the region.

Great stuff. Only a green can be this dumb.
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Reply #9 - May 22nd, 2016 at 9:58am
 
____ wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:56am:
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am:
that you think climate change has anything to do with Syria shows just how deluded you are Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



To think climate collapse doesn't assist despots and terror organisations, shows you are the deluded one.

Hungry angry people are more likely to put a vest on and blow themselves and their victims up.


Now you're just trolling
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Reply #10 - May 22nd, 2016 at 10:02am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am:
____ wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:49am:
By fast processing and assisted integration into Australian society.

Also Australia separating from the US alliance and forming an independent foreign policy.

Stronger targets on climate change, via a 1.5 degree of global warming. So to decrease more countries following Syria's downward spiral.


So you will help Syrians by splitting from the US foreign policy because it's US foreign policy that's currently causing millions to be displaced and be killed?  Which policy at present is causing the Syrians to be killed or flee?


You expect Australian politics to cause peace across the globe.

Australia, as an independent nations, has a greater opportunity to influence. Backing US foreign policy blindly, just makes us part of the problem.

The US supported the bombing of groups opposed to Assad. The US supported Russia, as they too bombed groups opposed to Assad.

As the US supported, Australia blindly supported too.
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Reply #11 - May 22nd, 2016 at 10:05am
 
Its time wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:58am:
____ wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:56am:
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am:
that you think climate change has anything to do with Syria shows just how deluded you are Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



To think climate collapse doesn't assist despots and terror organisations, shows you are the deluded one.

Hungry angry people are more likely to put a vest on and blow themselves and their victims up.


Now you're just trolling


what do you mean 'now'? He's been trolling ever since the election was called
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Reply #12 - May 22nd, 2016 at 10:06am
 
____ wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 10:02am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:52am:
____ wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:49am:
By fast processing and assisted integration into Australian society.

Also Australia separating from the US alliance and forming an independent foreign policy.

Stronger targets on climate change, via a 1.5 degree of global warming. So to decrease more countries following Syria's downward spiral.


So you will help Syrians by splitting from the US foreign policy because it's US foreign policy that's currently causing millions to be displaced and be killed?  Which policy at present is causing the Syrians to be killed or flee?


You expect Australian politics to cause peace across the globe.

Australia, as an independent nations, has a greater opportunity to influence. Backing US foreign policy blindly, just makes us part of the problem.

The US supported the bombing of groups opposed to Assad. The US supported Russia, as they too bombed groups opposed to Assad.

As the US supported, Australia blindly supported too.


Yes, everything is the fault of the US.  All Syrians fleeing is the fault of the US.  Idiot greens.

The only thing we can agree on in this case is that the US foreign policy, along with NATO and all the rest of the allies, Australia included, got one thing wrong: they Should immediately send in coalition forces and end this crisis once and for all.  It has always been blatantly clear that the Syrian people are unable to bring peace to themselves. 

But your solution is to leave Australia without any voice and instead continue The refugee crisis. This is the "ethical" greens.
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Reply #13 - May 22nd, 2016 at 10:07am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:58am:
____ wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:56am:
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2016 at 9:54am:
that you think climate change has anything to do with Syria shows just how deluded you are Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



To think climate collapse doesn't assist despots and terror organisations, shows you are the deluded one.

Hungry angry people are more likely to put a vest on and blow themselves and their victims up.


Yes, having a totalitarian government had nothing to do with it.  It was all Americas fault, and climate change.  And the solution is to have a unilateral foreign policy and bring all Syrians to Australia instead of help in bring peace to the region.

Great stuff. Only a green can be this dumb.



One of the two candidates for the next US president wants to derail global constructive action to decrease the destruction of AGW.

And please stop your blatant lying.
I suggested doubling our humanitarian 12000 Syrian intake (and speeding up the process). All very possible in the Greens 50,000 increased uptake.
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Reply #14 - May 22nd, 2016 at 10:08am
 
Good question SPDA.
Keep it up, but do try to widen your scope and not just be anti-Green.

Swinny there's a war going on over there Barbarians vs the Barbarians...  what are the Greens proposing we do about it?
Transfer the Syrian population to Australia perhaps?
No thanks that would be just transferring the problem to here.

We and the western world are not the answer to the problems elsewhere in the world...  importing problem populations and failing nation states is not the answer.

Somalia has been at war for 25 years...  I'm sorry...  what do the Greens propose be done about that and the hundreds of thousands refugees living in Kenya and Ethiopia?

The UN has been a failure on this issue, is that their fault or the fault of the Somalian people?  IF ever intervention was needed to fix something this is it.  But then we all know that intervention does not automatically create a solution certainly not long term ones.  How long till they revert back to civil war.

So Swinny...  what's your solution to the worlds problem people...?
Bring 'em all here?
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