Every reference to "tribe" made by Gandalf below just happens to be a tribe of Jews.
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5
th, 2013 at 10:27am:
freediver wrote on Dec 5
th, 2013 at 8:26am:
If you think these 800 people acted as some kind of mindless collective
Thats exactly what they were.
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 8
th, 2013 at 7:38pm:
Also the treachery of the jews had nothing to do with them refusing to help the muslims.
Simple facts FD.
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5
th, 2013 at 3:11pm:
As I said, there was no real concept of individuality - your personality was literally defined by which tribe you belonged to. And the decisions that govern the tribe are very much decisions that are represented by all the individuals who make up the tribe. Thus there really is no question of collective guilt - no matter how abhorrent we find the term today.
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4
th, 2013 at 3:48pm:
Muhammad had been burnt before by granting another traitorous tribe free passage to leave the city - upon which they immediately started plotting against Medina and instigating hostilities.
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 28
th, 2015 at 4:08pm:
The leaders conspired - yes.
The rest of them had the opportunity to disown their treachery. They declined. So tough titties- off with their heads.
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 28
th, 2015 at 4:08pm:
What do you think the Banu Qurayza would have done to the muslims if their planned back-stabbing assault on Medina had succeeded?
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 6
th, 2013 at 2:05pm:
Like I keep saying, it is reasonable to accuse them of collective guilt, since at any time any individual had the opportunity to disassociate themselves from the decisions made on behalf of the tribe.
Gandalf is one of the good Muslims.