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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 97325	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #360 - Mar 4^th, 2018 at 10:51am Sounds like you're getting even more riled up after all this time, FD. If you don't mind me saying, you seem to be turning into the old boy. Is there anything G could say to make you happy?
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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #361 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:40pm

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2018 at 10:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 2:02pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 9:58pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 9:57am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 27^th, 2018 at 11:25pm:

And don't forget the transcripts of the trial of the 200 Jews Moh killed in a day, G.

There you go. Couldn't have put it better myself. FD has no problem whatsoever taking as gospel truth the account of a single secondary source who was regarded by his peers as unreliable at best. Yet mention a treaty that is widely accepted by historians - he's all "oooh, no evidence!"

Also, FD are you saying it was ok for the Qurayza to conspire in secret to launch a surprise attack against your own city - on the basis that there was no treaty saying they wouldn't?

You are lying again Gandalf. What exactly is "widely accepted by historians"?

So for arguments sake, if it didn't exist - are you saying it was therefore ok for the QUrayza to conspire in secret to launch a surprise attack against your own city?

Actually yes. Muhammad was a piece of crap and should have been killed, even if that meant killing his henchmen to get to him. He was making a lucrative career out of murdering innocent people and stealing their goods. He was making life hell for the Jews. He had already kicked 2 of the 3 large tribes of Jews out of Medina. It was a clear policy of divide and conquer. And he had made his intentions quite clear by publicly announcing to the Jews that he would slaughter them if they did not convert to Islam. This was back when all 3 tribes were still there. So we have a political leader murdering and stealing. We have a politically leader openly threatening the Jews with genocide if they did not convert. And we have a political leader following through with those threats. There was a clear moral justification to kill Muhammad, just as there was with Hitler, and it is one of the greatest shames of history that they failed.

But that is of course beside the original point. You lied about the treaty. And now you will not say what exactly is "widely accepted" by historians. Your excuses for Muhammad's genocide are one lie after another, and you chop and change your lies as you get called out on them.

So, just to be clear here FD - are you now saying they did backstab Muhammad in the end - or merely that they would have been morally justified to do so? Either way, its strange that you've spent the last 2 years or more arguing so strenuously that the Qurayza definitely did nothing wrong vis dishonoring any agreement they might have had with Muhammad. It almost seemed like you considered this important at the time.

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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #362 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 2:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:40pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2018 at 10:27am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 2:02pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 9:58pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 9:57am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 27^th, 2018 at 11:25pm:

And don't forget the transcripts of the trial of the 200 Jews Moh killed in a day, G.

There you go. Couldn't have put it better myself. FD has no problem whatsoever taking as gospel truth the account of a single secondary source who was regarded by his peers as unreliable at best. Yet mention a treaty that is widely accepted by historians - he's all "oooh, no evidence!"

Also, FD are you saying it was ok for the Qurayza to conspire in secret to launch a surprise attack against your own city - on the basis that there was no treaty saying they wouldn't?

You are lying again Gandalf. What exactly is "widely accepted by historians"?

So for arguments sake, if it didn't exist - are you saying it was therefore ok for the QUrayza to conspire in secret to launch a surprise attack against your own city?

Actually yes. Muhammad was a piece of crap and should have been killed, even if that meant killing his henchmen to get to him. He was making a lucrative career out of murdering innocent people and stealing their goods. He was making life hell for the Jews. He had already kicked 2 of the 3 large tribes of Jews out of Medina. It was a clear policy of divide and conquer. And he had made his intentions quite clear by publicly announcing to the Jews that he would slaughter them if they did not convert to Islam. This was back when all 3 tribes were still there. So we have a political leader murdering and stealing. We have a politically leader openly threatening the Jews with genocide if they did not convert. And we have a political leader following through with those threats. There was a clear moral justification to kill Muhammad, just as there was with Hitler, and it is one of the greatest shames of history that they failed.

But that is of course beside the original point. You lied about the treaty. And now you will not say what exactly is "widely accepted" by historians. Your excuses for Muhammad's genocide are one lie after another, and you chop and change your lies as you get called out on them.

So, just to be clear here FD - are you now saying they did backstab Muhammad in the end - or merely that they would have been morally justified to do so? Either way, its strange that you've spent the last 2 years or more arguing so strenuously that the Qurayza definitely did nothing wrong vis dishonoring any agreement they might have had with Muhammad. It almost seemed like you considered this important at the time.

Presumably Muhammad had migrated to another city by that time. Why did he have to get revenge? Why couldn’t he have ‘turned the other cheek’ - condemn them to hell and get on with it.

You still haven’t addressed the point about his seeking revenge? Do you believe he was justified in doing so? And if yes, do you believe this act of revenge to be spiritual?

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Reply #363 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:54pm

Gandalf's at it again:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #364 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 8:42pm

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:54pm:

Gandalf's at it again:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

Do you disagree with anything G has to say here, FD?

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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #366 - Mar 8^th, 2018 at 10:17pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 8:42pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:54pm:

Gandalf's at it again:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

Do you disagree with anything G has to say here, FD?

I didn't know Gandalf had a beard.

Now Aussie has joined in:

Aussie wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:43pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 7^th, 2018 at 9:27pm:

Duh. I never claimed it was his exact phrasing. That was you and Gandalf, in your absurd attempts to backpedal.

Do you have an opinion on what he said Aussie?

You could have said that pages ago.

I don't know enough about the alleged incident to comment. I do know that it is far from certain the alleged event occurred.

'Mindless collectives' exist everywhere. Just look at Members of political parties. Look at Armies. Look at any group of like minded people. Look at any group with a Leader.

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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #367 - May 12^th, 2018 at 11:18am

Now Aussie is running away:

freediver wrote on May 11^th, 2018 at 10:05pm:

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2018 at 9:35pm:

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How do you figure out when it began Aussie?

I guess you locate the genesis of the discussion about 'mindless collective etc.' You'd know. I would never have noticed, so I'd have no idea at all.

But.....undeniable fact is....you have made it your lynch pin/focal attack point against Gandalf over many Threads, and years.

I have made a point about what he actually said. I quoted him. You covered your eyes so you did not have to see what Gandalf posted, but continue to insist I am misrepresenting him.

I still do not know what the point would be of going back to the 'start' of the discussion, or even how you would decide what the start is. Is this like when you pick a random word and ask me to define it?

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

No.

I'm out of this here. I have been on this merry-go-round before with you and got nowhere.

If you want to battle on, let's relate in Relationships.

Aussie why do you think the outcome would be any different on the relationships board? You would still cover your eyes whenever I quote Gandalf and runaway whenever I ask you why, right?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews Reply #368 - May 15^th, 2018 at 9:42pm your obsession with Aussie is unhealthy FD. Are you suffering withdrawal since Brian left?
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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #370 - May 15^th, 2018 at 10:27pm

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:54pm:

Gandalf's at it again:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

Was it a-ok for Muhammad to slaughter those Jews Gandalf?

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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #371 - May 15^th, 2018 at 10:47pm

Aussie wrote on May 15^th, 2018 at 9:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2018 at 9:42pm:

your obsession with Aussie is unhealthy FD.

Are you suffering withdrawal since Brian left?

Gee.....has Brian left???? Was it something I said? Where did he go?

Shocked

Ee-gad, I hadn't even noticed. Maybe he went to that other board, Aussie. You know, the one you're not allowed to mention here.

Freeeedom, innit.

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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #372 - May 15^th, 2018 at 10:49pm

freediver wrote on May 15^th, 2018 at 10:27pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:54pm:

Gandalf's at it again:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

Was it a-ok for Muhammad to slaughter those Jews Gandalf?

He doesn't believe that, FD. Let's get right to the point.

Was it okay for Moh to torture that Jew for his gold Gandalf?

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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #373 - May 16^th, 2018 at 4:15pm

freediver wrote on May 15^th, 2018 at 10:27pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:54pm:

Gandalf's at it again:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

Was it a-ok for Muhammad to slaughter those Jews Gandalf?

You can get a sense of how FD's immigration screening test will go...

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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #374 - May 16^th, 2018 at 4:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 16^th, 2018 at 4:15pm:

freediver wrote on May 15^th, 2018 at 10:27pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 6:54pm:

Gandalf's at it again:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 8^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Yes, but FD's interested in the deeper meaning of what muslims say. For example, when a muslim says he opposes punishing gays for being gay - FD knows he really means he wants to kill gays who do it mardi gras style.

You really should learn how to listen to muslims like FD does - then you'll realise that your bearded numpty who seemingly said that ISIS were against Quranic teachings, really said that ISIS are awesome - and also that gays should be slaughtered en masse and that Muhammad killed 700 jews in a day for being a mindless collective - and thats a-ok.

Was it a-ok for Muhammad to slaughter those Jews Gandalf?

You can get a sense of how FD's immigration screening test will go...

Does it involve Muslims not giving any straight answers to the questions?

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