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Reply #45 - Jun 3rd, 2016 at 9:16pm
 
Brian do you believe Gandalf's version that the Jews slaughtered by Muhammed literally were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews?
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Reply #46 - Jun 3rd, 2016 at 9:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 9:16pm:
Brian do you believe Gandalf's version that the Jews slaughtered by Muhammed literally were a mindless collective of treacherous Jews?


You are spamming your own Forum.  Why?
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Reply #47 - Jun 3rd, 2016 at 9:39pm
 
Why do people feel so compelled to post something in this thread, but at the same time feel so averse to addressing the topic?
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Reply #48 - Jun 3rd, 2016 at 10:05pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 9:39pm:
Why do people feel so compelled to post something in this thread, but at the same time feel so averse to addressing the topic?


Maybe.....maybe........because you keep repeating the same question when it is obvious people are tired of doing that for you while you never answer the questions of others?  Maybe?
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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #49 - Jun 3rd, 2016 at 10:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 9:39pm:
Why do people feel so compelled to post something in this thread, but at the same time feel so averse to addressing the topic?


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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #50 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 7:43am
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 10:05pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 9:39pm:
Why do people feel so compelled to post something in this thread, but at the same time feel so averse to addressing the topic?


Maybe.....maybe........because you keep repeating the same question when it is obvious people are tired of doing that for you while you never answer the questions of others?  Maybe?


So what do you think of Gandalf's justification for Jew slaughtering?

If you are tired of it, why do you keep coming back for more?
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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #51 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 8:33am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 4:30pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 4:27pm:
You're just proving FD's point Brian.


In what way?  I believe all societies have, at their heart, an unwillingness to accept words of wisdom, G. 


What words of wisdom Brian? You seem to think Jesus' teachings of non-violence and turning the other cheek is somehow a valid comparison to the alleged 'rape and pillage' doctrine of Islam. How does that work exactly? FD's not arguing that muslims are unwilling to accept  the 'words of wisdom' from their doctrine (ie rape and pillage), he's saying the exact opposite. So exactly is your point?
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Reply #52 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 8:54am
 
Brian is referring to his own words.
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Reply #53 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 4:54pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4th, 2016 at 8:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 4:30pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 4:27pm:
You're just proving FD's point Brian.


In what way?  I believe all societies have, at their heart, an unwillingness to accept words of wisdom, G. 


What words of wisdom Brian? You seem to think Jesus' teachings of non-violence and turning the other cheek is somehow a valid comparison to the alleged 'rape and pillage' doctrine of Islam. How does that work exactly? FD's not arguing that muslims are unwilling to accept  the 'words of wisdom' from their doctrine (ie rape and pillage), he's saying the exact opposite. So exactly is your point?


Where?  I've never seen him say anything other than pose questions.
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Reply #54 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 5:44pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 4th, 2016 at 4:54pm:
Where?  I've never seen him say anything other than pose questions.


Whenever muslims carry out some atrocity, FD brings up the massacre of jews by Muhammad to demonstrate how they are the "rightly guided" muslims.

His other favourite tactic is to try and show how so called "progressive" muslims like me spinelessly apologise for his massacre by (in this case) dismissing the victims as a "mindless collective of treacherous jews".

Its all part of his very own "faith ratchet" - Since Islamic doctrine is so heavilly based on the example of the Prophet, Islam therefore is a religion that all muslims, extremist and progressive alike, are bound to either celebrate or apologise for the atrocities of the barbarian Muhammad - thus sealing Islam's fate as utterly irredeemable and unreformable. This is the default position for FD, though he keeps a foot in both shoes - maintaining his right to mock muslims like myself for not doing enough, or not being serious about reforming Islam - even though he already believes its a reform that can never happen. He's never really explained how that logic works.
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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #55 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 5:52pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 4th, 2016 at 5:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 4th, 2016 at 4:54pm:
Where?  I've never seen him say anything other than pose questions.


Whenever muslims carry out some atrocity, FD brings up the massacre of jews by Muhammad to demonstrate how they are the "rightly guided" muslims.

His other favourite tactic is to try and show how so called "progressive" muslims like me spinelessly apologise for his massacre by (in this case) dismissing the victims as a "mindless collective of treacherous jews".

Its all part of his very own "faith ratchet" - Since Islamic doctrine is so heavilly based on the example of the Prophet, Islam therefore is a religion that all muslims, extremist and progressive alike, are bound to either celebrate or apologise for the atrocities of the barbarian Muhammad - thus sealing Islam's fate as utterly irredeemable and unreformable. This is the default position for FD, though he keeps a foot in both shoes - maintaining his right to mock muslims like myself for not doing enough, or not being serious about reforming Islam - even though he already believes its a reform that can never happen. He's never really explained how that logic works.


Okay.  I've never seen him put it that way as I've never seen him take a firm position other than anti Islam by the sneering tone of his never ending questions.
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Reply #56 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 6:08pm
 
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Its all part of his very own "faith ratchet" - Since Islamic doctrine is so heavilly based on the example of the Prophet, Islam therefore is a religion that all muslims, extremist and progressive alike, are bound to either celebrate or apologise for the atrocities of the barbarian Muhammad - thus sealing Islam's fate as utterly irredeemable and unreformable.


Your Jew slaughtering apologetics is a good example of this Gandalf. I challenge you to find any person who is not a Nazi or a Muslim who argues in support of slaughtering Jews on the grounds that they literally were or are a mindless collective of treacherous Jews. It is particularly ironic to see you post this in one thread then go on about people's capacity to live in multicultural harmony in another. You can elegantly argue for rational humanism, but you are crippled intellectually by Islam to discard this on an ad hoc basis. You are literally bound by Islam to apologise for the atrocities of the barbarian Muhammad.

If that is what passes for "progressive reform" among Muslims, is it any wonder why so many support ISIS?
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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #57 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 6:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2016 at 6:08pm:
I challenge you to find any person who is not a Nazi or a Muslim who argues in support of slaughtering Jews on the grounds that they literally were or are a mindless collective of treacherous Jews.


Another favourite FD tactic is to make it all about da joooos, and thereby making a seamless and utterly shameless invocation of Godwin's law.

And doubtless the irony of him simultaneously mocking someone else in another thread (erroneously) for resorting to to pulling out the race card will fly right over his head. 
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Reply #58 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 6:44pm
 
You make it about Jews by arguing in support of the slaughter of Jews. I did not choose who Muhammed decided to slaughter.
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Reply #59 - Jun 4th, 2016 at 10:23pm
 
FD at any time in the past 3 years of flogging this dead horse, did you ever actually grasp the concept that I never once argued in support of slaughtering jews, but rather slaughtering a tribe who broke a treaty and conspired with an enemy who was trying to commit genocide?



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