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Reply #105 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:47pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 5:17pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 1:27pm:

"integration" - as opposed to "assimilation" works fine misty.

The old assimilation model was rightly discarded because it doesn't work. It tells migrants they must completely drop their way of life and become clones of the dominant culture. Its a fantasy - you simply can't rip the culture out of someone and expect them to seamlessly fit wholly into a foreign one - even when they are attracted so much by it that they want to move to a country that has it. You either restrict your immigration program to countries of the same culture (tried that, and we ran out), or have a whole generation of migrants living a lie and feeling disillusioned. Integration says that immigrants can be productive and make a positive contribution to society while they retain their culture. In fact, it goes further and says that multiculturalism enhances society - since a population of happy people being comfortable to 'be themselves', and not someone else, makes for a healthier society.

Integration only works if the populations of the imported cultures remain small, very small. Once they reach a certain level they will then push their ideas/practices onto others. Voting blocks form, infiltration into the public service and universities occur, and then it's game over if it isn't countered before too long.

How is it in the Turkish university sector, Mistie?

Do they assimilate you or has your type taken over?

Dunno. I don't work there. I can tell you though that conflict between Turks and Kurds occurs regularly in universities. I am talking about proper fights, with fists, bottles, sticks, and rocks. Although, this is mild compared to what goes on in the South-East corner. PKK kills military personnel almost everyday and the Turkish military responds by wiping out a few dozen terrorists. There's your multicultural paradise in its extreme right there.

Turkey isn't a Multicultural society. The Government actively suppresses Kurdish culture. The Kurds are fighting that oppression. Roll Eyes

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74695 Gender:	Re: A Gated Community that refuses Muslims .. Reply #106 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:47pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:44pm: What Herbet says is true. Countries outside of the west don't seem to have leftie traitors. ahhh . that must explain why place like the Philippines are so Americanised
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Reply #107 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:50pm

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:44pm:

What Herbet says is true. Countries outside of the west don't seem to have leftie traitors.

ahhh . that must explain why place like the Philippines are so Americanised Cheesy

America did liberate the Philippines from the Japanese during WW2. Your grandfather sure didn't help liberate anybody.

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Reply #108 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:51pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:44pm:

What Herbet says is true. Countries outside of the west don't seem to have leftie traitors.

Care to provide evidence?

First you'll have to define "the Left". Then you'll need to define what a "traitor" is and how those members of "the Left" are being traitorous to their surrounding societies. Roll Eyes

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Reply #109 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:44pm:

What Herbet says is true. Countries outside of the west don't seem to have leftie traitors.

Care to provide evidence?

First you'll have to define "the Left". Then you'll need to define what a "traitor" is and how those members of "the Left" are being traitorous to their surrounding societies. Roll Eyes

Traitors are people who fill their home countries up with people from around the world thus destroying ther peoples culture, race and making competition for jobs, houses etc.

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Reply #110 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:55pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:50pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:44pm:

What Herbet says is true. Countries outside of the west don't seem to have leftie traitors.

ahhh . that must explain why place like the Philippines are so Americanised Cheesy

America did liberate the Philippines from the Japanese during WW2. Your grandfather sure didn't help liberate anybody.

so now you're changing your argument ? Grin

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Reply #112 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:56pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:44pm:

What Herbet says is true. Countries outside of the west don't seem to have leftie traitors.

Care to provide evidence?

First you'll have to define "the Left". Then you'll need to define what a "traitor" is and how those members of "the Left" are being traitorous to their surrounding societies. Roll Eyes

Traitors are people who fill their home countries up with people from around the world thus destroying ther peoples culture, race and making competition for jobs, houses etc.

so when Lang Hancock hired a live in Philippino maid, he was being a traitorous leftie?

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Re: A Gated Community that refuses Muslims ..
Reply #113 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:58pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:44pm:

What Herbet says is true. Countries outside of the west don't seem to have leftie traitors.

Care to provide evidence?

First you'll have to define "the Left". Then you'll need to define what a "traitor" is and how those members of "the Left" are being traitorous to their surrounding societies. Roll Eyes

Traitors are people who fill their home countries up with people from around the world thus destroying ther peoples culture, race and making competition for jobs, houses etc.

You still haven't defined what "the Left" is. "Traitors" to what? A political ideal? A "racial" ideal or a cultural one? You haven't told us what they are betraying.

As a proponent of your viewpoint, you really are pretty hopeless, you realise? Roll Eyes

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Re: A Gated Community that refuses Muslims ..
Reply #114 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:44pm:

What Herbet says is true. Countries outside of the west don't seem to have leftie traitors.

Care to provide evidence?

First you'll have to define "the Left". Then you'll need to define what a "traitor" is and how those members of "the Left" are being traitorous to their surrounding societies. Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 11:39pm:

Nope. Yours to disprove. I made a statement. Up to you to disprove it. Roll Eyes

LOL, Herbie made the statement, yours to disprove.

Clown. Grin

i can see this is going to be a fun quote.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41948	Re: A Gated Community that refuses Muslims .. Reply #115 - May 31^st, 2016 at 2:59pm freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:55pm: Then Brian will demand you define what "it" means. You appear not to like ensuring that we know exactly what he's talking about, FD. I wonder why? Could it be that you prefer for his answers to be ambiguous?
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Re: A Gated Community that refuses Muslims ..
Reply #116 - May 31^st, 2016 at 3:00pm

Secret Wars wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:51pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:44pm:

What Herbet says is true. Countries outside of the west don't seem to have leftie traitors.

Care to provide evidence?

First you'll have to define "the Left". Then you'll need to define what a "traitor" is and how those members of "the Left" are being traitorous to their surrounding societies. Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 11:39pm:

Nope. Yours to disprove. I made a statement. Up to you to disprove it. Roll Eyes

LOL, Herbie made the statement, yours to disprove.

Clown. Grin

i can see this is going to be a fun quote.

I don't see Herbie in that exchange. Roll Eyes

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Re: A Gated Community that refuses Muslims ..
Reply #117 - May 31^st, 2016 at 3:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 28^th, 2016 at 1:07pm:

Immigrants are neither required or expected to assimilate.

lol, maybe not, but once the mob has had enough then expect to face the consequences of such ideas.

So, you believe the "mob" should rule society? My, how interesting! What happens when the "mob" knocks on your door? Roll Eyes

The mob will vote in extreme parties, which will happen in Western Europe eventually if moderate conservative parties aren't voted in.

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Reply #118 - May 31^st, 2016 at 3:10pm

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:43pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 11:09am:

John Smith wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 6:50pm:

What's rubbish, that they don't exist in white countries or that it does exist in other countries?

that the left usually only exist in white countries

The socialist left exist in most countries. The self-hating cultural left is a unique phenomenon to the West.

no, it's a phenomenon that is unique to your brain.

gee, the cognitive faculties are strong in this one. Back to screwing others over with your rents and sales and letting your wife slap you over the head.

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Re: A Gated Community that refuses Muslims ..
Reply #119 - May 31^st, 2016 at 3:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:43pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 1:27pm:

"integration" - as opposed to "assimilation" works fine misty.

The old assimilation model was rightly discarded because it doesn't work. It tells migrants they must completely drop their way of life and become clones of the dominant culture. Its a fantasy - you simply can't rip the culture out of someone and expect them to seamlessly fit wholly into a foreign one - even when they are attracted so much by it that they want to move to a country that has it. You either restrict your immigration program to countries of the same culture (tried that, and we ran out), or have a whole generation of migrants living a lie and feeling disillusioned. Integration says that immigrants can be productive and make a positive contribution to society while they retain their culture. In fact, it goes further and says that multiculturalism enhances society - since a population of happy people being comfortable to 'be themselves', and not someone else, makes for a healthier society.

Integration only works if the populations of the imported cultures remain small, very small. Once they reach a certain level they will then push their ideas/practices onto others. Voting blocks form, infiltration into the public service and universities occur, and then it's game over if it isn't countered before too long.

Why are you so fearful of change?

Ever consider that Immigrants and their ideas infuse our culture with new views on how to do things? Today, Australian culture is stronger, not weaker, because of the influx of immigrants.

It depends on the values, morals and traditions of those immigrants. Highly religious, conservative, nationalist immigrants don't mix well. It's hilarious that "progressives" like you think you have a connection with them.

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