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Reply #195 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:26am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:23am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:19am:

All of this is a diversion from where the real blame should be and thats the bloody parents of the kid.

Yep.

And ummm I still can't believe this topic is going.

Get over it folks.

The gorilla is dead.

The kid is safe.

Move on. Yes?

Yes, and people need to learn from the experience.

Zoos and parents.

I'd still like to see footage of the sniper in action.

I want to see how close the kid was to the gorilla when the shot was fired.

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Reply #196 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:29am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:19am:

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 10:31am:

AiA wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 8:54am:

Jane Goodall: Slain Zoo Gorilla Was ‘Putting an Arm Round the Child[/size][/b]

Just measuring it to see if it would fit in its stomach. Wink

are gorillas carnivores?

Nice one, cods.

Herbivores, as far as I know.

They might eat the odd bug here and there, but I doubt they'd eat a human child.

Anyway, why is there no footage of the rescue?

Every person in the zoo would have had a camera/phone with them, yet the only footage we've seen is the minute or so of the kid being dragged around.

They're omnivores....just like all of us (excluding Greens) Grin

The most meat thing they will eat are termites and ants.

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Reply #197 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:26am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:23am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:19am:

All of this is a diversion from where the real blame should be and thats the bloody parents of the kid.

Yep.

And ummm I still can't believe this topic is going.

Get over it folks.

The gorilla is dead.

The kid is safe.

Move on. Yes?

Yes, and people need to learn from the experience.

Zoos and parents.

I'd still like to see footage of the sniper in action.

I want to see how close the kid was to the gorilla when the shot was fired.

I just want to know why a stun gun wasn't used.

I suspect this obvious question has already been covered in this topic.

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Reply #198 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:37am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:26am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:23am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:19am:

All of this is a diversion from where the real blame should be and thats the bloody parents of the kid.

Yep.

And ummm I still can't believe this topic is going.

Get over it folks.

The gorilla is dead.

The kid is safe.

Move on. Yes?

Yes, and people need to learn from the experience.

Zoos and parents.

I'd still like to see footage of the sniper in action.

I want to see how close the kid was to the gorilla when the shot was fired.

I just want to know why a stun gun wasn't used.

I suspect this obvious question has already been covered in this topic.

They were concerned that a tranquiliser gun would not work quickly enough

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Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child
Reply #199 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:41am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:29am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:25am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:19am:

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 10:33am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 10:31am:

AiA wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 8:54am:

Jane Goodall: Slain Zoo Gorilla Was ‘Putting an Arm Round the Child[/size][/b]

Just measuring it to see if it would fit in its stomach. Wink

are gorillas carnivores?

Nice one, cods.

Herbivores, as far as I know.

They might eat the odd bug here and there, but I doubt they'd eat a human child.

Anyway, why is there no footage of the rescue?

Every person in the zoo would have had a camera/phone with them, yet the only footage we've seen is the minute or so of the kid being dragged around.

They're omnivores....just like all of us (excluding Greens) Grin

The most meat thing they will eat are termites and ants.

Look Mr Smart Arse, termites and ants are STILL animals.

And in the wild gorillas DO eat meat.

In any event, gorillas are huge kinda violent creatures and as such it was probably shot to prevent it from hurting (NOT eating) the child.

I just don't get why a stun gun wasn't used.

Anyone here know?

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Reply #200 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:43am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:37am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:26am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:23am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:19am:

All of this is a diversion from where the real blame should be and thats the bloody parents of the kid.

Yep.

And ummm I still can't believe this topic is going.

Get over it folks.

The gorilla is dead.

The kid is safe.

Move on. Yes?

Yes, and people need to learn from the experience.

Zoos and parents.

I'd still like to see footage of the sniper in action.

I want to see how close the kid was to the gorilla when the shot was fired.

I just want to know why a stun gun wasn't used.

I suspect this obvious question has already been covered in this topic.

They were concerned that a tranquiliser gun would not work quickly enough

Ah.

Well then, if that was YOUR little boy in there....what would you be wanting to happen?

I know what I'd want.

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Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child
Reply #201 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:43am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:41am:

I just don't get why a stun gun wasn't used.

Anyone here know?

Doesn't work quick enough.

He would have felt the sting from the dart, and associated the pain with the child.

Thus, there would be the risk that he would lash out at the child before the drug took effect.

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Reply #202 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:45am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:43am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:41am:

I just don't get why a stun gun wasn't used.

Anyone here know?

Doesn't work quick enough.

He would have felt the sting from the dart, and associated the pain with the child.

Thus, there would be the risk that he would lash out at the child before the drug took effect.

Yep. As per Bojack's response.

Soooo, I'll ask you also, if that little boy was your son..what would you like to see happen next?

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Reply #203 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:54am

Aussie wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 4:32pm:

cods wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 4:09pm:

I too would want to know where were the parents...??? a 3 yr old climb into a animal compound....hardly...

it is a cruel end for the gorilla... but under the circumstances they had to make an instant decision that could have been bad either way....a tranquilizer just doesnt work instantly and could have had even worse consequences...

sadly there is no right or wrong way to deal with this type of thing..

I think there is. Zoos ought ensure this sort of event can never happen. We have to fence pools to make them allegedly kid proof.

The burden of responsibility lies with the ZOO. How is it a highly dangerous animal like a Silver back Gorilla is under such flimsy security such as a poorly constructed fence in the first place , has to be asked?- WHY wasn't security at the Zoo fail safe- why didn't the zoo protect it's patrons. We have fail safe security here in Australia,. Look no further than the Zoo for the death of this Gorilla..they neither protected their clients nor the Gorilla..this is NOT the fault of the parent/s.

I sniff a great big law suit and the lawyers will be circling the mother right this minute..

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #204 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:57am Stun gun wasn't used because there was a real chance it would make the Gorilla even more agitated- in an ideal world it would have been used- I saw a little footage and it didn't look good for the little boy.
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Reply #205 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:01pm

Agnes wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:57am:

Stun gun wasn't used because there was a real chance it would make the Gorilla even more agitated- in an ideal world it would have been used- I saw a little footage and it didn't look good for the little boy.

Yep.

Ok....so I'll ask you the question I asked of Bojack and Greg.

If it was YOUR little boy in there with that gorilla and a stun gun was not an option, what would you want to see happen next?

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #206 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:05pm exactly what they did in this cirumstance...they did the right thing under the circumstances.. but the incident was the fault of the ZOO.
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Reply #207 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:06pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:01pm:

Agnes wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:57am:

Stun gun wasn't used because there was a real chance it would make the Gorilla even more agitated- in an ideal world it would have been used- I saw a little footage and it didn't look good for the little boy.

Yep.

Ok....so I'll ask you the question I asked of Bojack and Greg.

If it was YOUR little boy in there with that gorilla and a stun gun was not an option, what would you want to see happen next?

Me being punished?

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Reply #208 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:07pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:43am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:41am:

I just don't get why a stun gun wasn't used.

Anyone here know?

Doesn't work quick enough.

He would have felt the sting from the dart, and associated the pain with the child.

Thus, there would be the risk that he would lash out at the child before the drug took effect.

Yep. As per Bojack's response.

Soooo, I'll ask you also, if that little boy was your son..what would you like to see happen next?

Exactly what did happen.

It's terribly sad that the gorilla was killed, but I can't see what other option they had.

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #209 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:08pm No its the fault of the fault if the ZOO Bojack, we know you CANNOT keep your eye on your kids every second- 4 year olds run amok all the time- or dont you have kids?
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Question: Who are the guilty parties?
100% the Management 6 (40.0%) 100% the mother (father not there) 3 (20.0%) 50 / 50 the mum and Management 3 (20.0%) 80% fault of the Management 0 (0.0%) 80% fault of the mother 1 (6.7%) 90% fault of the Management 1 (6.7%) 90% fault of the mother 1 (6.7%) 100% fault of the kid 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 15 « Created by: Lord Herbert on: Jun 3^rd, 2016 at 9:09pm »