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Reply #225 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:03pm

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 5:55pm:

Agnes wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:08pm:

No its the fault of the fault if the ZOO Bojack, we know you CANNOT keep your eye on your kids every second- 4 year olds run amok all the time- or dont you have kids?

a 3 year old agnes......BUT YOU EXPECT THE ZOO TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM A

what do you suggest.. electric fencing... Roll Eyes

my friends lived on a very high sloping block their side gate was huge...the house was on 3 levels.. yet their tot of a daughter managed to climb over it.....

some kids just can climb......maybe the zoo should b an all kids under a certain age.. or have them all restrained.. like you do..

when oh when are parents going to be held accountable....a 3 year old cannot be trusted....I dont care what they put up to stop it doing what they do.. I even had a friend whos son at 2 let the hand brake off in the family car and it rolled across the road into someone elses driveway..... no damage only to friends heart........they do the most unexpected things..

dont expect someone else to do your minding for you..

Cods, you just described exactly why the Zoo (which allows toddlers in) has a very high duty of care.

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Reply #227 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:29pm

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 5:55pm:

Agnes wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:08pm:

No its the fault of the fault if the ZOO Bojack, we know you CANNOT keep your eye on your kids every second- 4 year olds run amok all the time- or dont you have kids?

a 3 year old agnes......BUT YOU EXPECT THE ZOO TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM A

what do you suggest.. electric fencing... Roll Eyes

I'm way ahead of you - I've suggested that already.

Would work a charm.

The sizzling sounds, sparks, smoke, smell, and screaming would alert parents their rug-rats needed reining in.

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Reply #228 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:38pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:03pm:

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 5:55pm:

Agnes wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:08pm:

No its the fault of the fault if the ZOO Bojack, we know you CANNOT keep your eye on your kids every second- 4 year olds run amok all the time- or dont you have kids?

a 3 year old agnes......BUT YOU EXPECT THE ZOO TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM A

what do you suggest.. electric fencing... Roll Eyes

my friends lived on a very high sloping block their side gate was huge...the house was on 3 levels.. yet their tot of a daughter managed to climb over it.....

some kids just can climb......maybe the zoo should b an all kids under a certain age.. or have them all restrained.. like you do..

when oh when are parents going to be held accountable....a 3 year old cannot be trusted....I dont care what they put up to stop it doing what they do.. I even had a friend whos son at 2 let the hand brake off in the family car and it rolled across the road into someone elses driveway..... no damage only to friends heart........they do the most unexpected things..

dont expect someone else to do your minding for you..

Cods, you just described exactly why the Zoo (which allows toddlers in) has a very hight duty of care.

it did as far as I am concerned.. a 1 meter high wall...the kid got over it...you dont know neither do I or anyone else here we have never been to this ZOO...

I have not seen the fence or wall what ever it was this child managed to get through........

so what we all say is pure speculation.....

I am saying THE PARENTS HAVE MORE FREAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR CHILD THAN ANY ZOO...

and agnes and lisa say its all the zoos fault..

fair enough????????...

I dont care how you twist my words..

I am asking just what more can a place of amusement do????... thats all..

the zoo does have duty of care and if theiur care was not good enough I am sure they will pay...

but so do the freaking parents..

I caught a toddler just about to crawl onto the up going escalator...... I grabbed her and held her for what seemed like a long time.. I recall looking round and no one b ut a Bank was near by and suddenly this guy comes out and grabs her.. doesnt even thank me....

I was in a bit of shock to be honest because I just walked away I should have gone after him as she was on ly crawling......

I just dont know what more some folks want other to do thats all..

of course you can see a big fat pay out on this.. so I understand where you are coming from.....

but that doesnt bring back a life and that animal is dead.. because of a lazy bloody parent.

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Reply #229 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:40pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:29pm:

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 5:55pm:

Agnes wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:08pm:

No its the fault of the fault if the ZOO Bojack, we know you CANNOT keep your eye on your kids every second- 4 year olds run amok all the time- or dont you have kids?

a 3 year old agnes......BUT YOU EXPECT THE ZOO TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM A

what do you suggest.. electric fencing... Roll Eyes

I'm way ahead of you - I've suggested that already.

Would work a charm.

The sizzling sounds, sparks, smoke, smell, and screaming would alert parents their rug-rats need reining in.

well I am more thinking about that animal......who has been sacrificed..for poor parenting..

would you allow a 3 year old to run around at a zoo of all places.... Roll Eyes

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Reply #230 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:48pm

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the zoo does have duty of care and if theiur care was not good enough I am sure they will pay...

With every post you make, cods, you are proving exactly my point. Toddlers can move like lightning. There one second and gone the next. Those who run Zoos, where toddlers and their animals ought not be in immediate proximity, have to take that very fact into account, and make sure that lightning toddler cannot get into danger.

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Reply #231 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:54pm

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:40pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:29pm:

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 5:55pm:

Agnes wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:08pm:

No its the fault of the fault if the ZOO Bojack, we know you CANNOT keep your eye on your kids every second- 4 year olds run amok all the time- or dont you have kids?

a 3 year old agnes......BUT YOU EXPECT THE ZOO TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM A

what do you suggest.. electric fencing... Roll Eyes

I'm way ahead of you - I've suggested that already.

Would work a charm.

The sizzling sounds, sparks, smoke, smell, and screaming would alert parents their rug-rats need reining in.

Cods it only takes seconds for a kid to get away.

The only logical conclusion is that a small child shouldn't be able to get into trouble within seconds.

He got through a hole in the fence.

It's the zoos fault.

well I am more thinking about that animal......who has been sacrificed..for poor parenting..

would you allow a 3 year old to run around at a zoo of all places.... Roll Eyes

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Reply #232 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 7:31pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:48pm:

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the zoo does have duty of care and if theiur care was not good enough I am sure they will pay...

With every post you make, cods, you are proving exactly my point. Toddlers can move like lightning. There one second and gone the next. Those who run Zoos, where toddlers and their animals ought not be in immediate proximity, have to take that very fact into account, and make sure that lightning toddler cannot get into danger.

oh go away go get a job at the zoo and tell them how to work the place..

how many kids have you seen or heard of falling into an animal enclosure... at zoos..
thats the second one I have heard of..

most people I know know that ZOOS are full of wild animals.. and not safe places for kids to run around loose.

anyone would think it happens twice a week the way you carry on.

if you stood on an island in the middle of a busy highway would you take your hand off a 3 year old??????>.. Angry

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well zoos are something like that...

safe but not that safe..

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Reply #233 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 7:43pm

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well zoos are something like that...

No, cods Zoos are nothing like that. They are places which invite people and toddlers (who pay ~ and that also increases the level of duty of care ~ do a google on 'tort invitee for reward') to come and gawk at captive animals, including those we are not meant to shake hands with. They must make sure the gawkers cannot get into danger, especially toddler kids who can move away from a parent very quickly as you have very well explained and clearly understood.

How was it physically possible for this toddler to do what he did? The obvious answer is ~ he did.....ergo, the Zoo was grossly negligent in failing to prevent it.

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Reply #234 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 7:46pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 7:43pm:

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well zoos are something like that...

No, cods Zoos are nothing like that. They are places which invite people and toddlers (who pay ~ and that also increases the level of duty of care ~ do a google on 'tort invitee for reward') to come and gawk at captive animals, including those we are not meant to shake hands with. They must make sure the gawkers cannot get into danger, especially toddler kids who can move away from a parent very quickly as you have very well explained and clearly understood.

How was it physically possible for this toddler to do what he did? The obvious answer is ~ he did.....ergo, the Zoo was grossly negligent in failing to prevent it.

how was it physically possible for my friends daughter to climb over a twenty foot high side gate....but she did.

you obviously have not brought up children.. you must have left it entirely to your poor wife..

how many kids in the burns ward??????????????alone..

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more accidents happen in the home than anywhere else.. when it comes to children.. Roll Eyes

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Reply #236 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 7:59pm

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 7:46pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 7:43pm:

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well zoos are something like that...

No, cods Zoos are nothing like that. They are places which invite people and toddlers (who pay ~ and that also increases the level of duty of care ~ do a google on 'tort invitee for reward') to come and gawk at captive animals, including those we are not meant to shake hands with. They must make sure the gawkers cannot get into danger, especially toddler kids who can move away from a parent very quickly as you have very well explained and clearly understood.

How was it physically possible for this toddler to do what he did? The obvious answer is ~ he did.....ergo, the Zoo was grossly negligent in failing to prevent it.

how was it physically possible for my friends daughter to climb over a twenty foot high side gate....but she did.

you obviously have not brought up children.. you must have left it entirely to your poor wife..

how many kids in the burns ward??????????????alone..

Angry

more accidents happen in the home than anywhere else.. when it comes to children.. Roll Eyes

Cods you seem to be agreeing that young children are easily led into misadventure.

Within seconds, yes?

So a business catering for small children should not have any reasonable hazards in their environment.

There was a hole in a fence big enough for a child to get through that separates danger from safety. No business should be allowed to do that.

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Reply #237 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 8:34pm

cods wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:40pm:

would you allow a 3 year old to run around at a zoo of all places.... Roll Eyes

I would never take 'my' 3-year old to a zoo. Some of those ferocious animals could traumatise him in some way ... having nightmares for months afterwards.

PS. The thought just occurred to me: Maybe the mother nudged the kid into the Danger Zone precisely to get rid of him ....

Stranger things have happened when a 'new man' comes into the mother's life.

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Reply #239 - Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 8:47pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:48pm:

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the zoo does have duty of care and if theiur care was not good enough I am sure they will pay...

With every post you make, cods, you are proving exactly my point. Toddlers can move like lightning. There one second and gone the next. Those who run Zoos, where toddlers and their animals ought not be in immediate proximity, have to take that very fact into account, and make sure that lightning toddler cannot get into danger.

Absolutely correct.

Vigilant mothers are a rare commodity and to me they're Folk Heroes as far as I'm concerned.

One of the best of these that I personally witnessed in action was the time I saw a mother pushing a pram, with a small daughter hanging onto her St Vinnie's dress - and then her small son ran across this empty road with no traffic either way - but quick as a whip she roared out in a Drill Sergeant's voice ...

"COME BACK 'ERE YOUSE F*CKIN' LITTLE C*NT!!"

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