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Reply #75 - May 30^th, 2016 at 12:08pm

cods wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

its acrophobia herb...a fear of height......or a vertigo attack...

I look at that animal and it is so sad he had to die.. Cry

sue the bloody parents for letting their feral kid loose in a public place...

The zoo - and ALL other concrete-type zoos should be banned and those poor bloody animals released into a fenced-off countryside somewhere.

I remember during my last visit to Taronga Park zoo in Sydney - standing in front of the concrete cell where this enormous gorilla was sitting there disconsolately contemplating the cruel and unforgivable circumstance he was confined to for the rest of his life.

His eyes met mine and I felt an enormous surge of embarrassment and shame that I was personally party to this inhumane abuse.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #77 - May 30^th, 2016 at 12:58pm freediver wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 7:27pm: Aussie still thinks the 4 year old jumped the fence. Actually he crawled under it, apparently. Should be a pretty simple thing to ensure can't happen wouldn't you agree? Aussie is right - the zoo was negligent.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35522 Gender:	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #78 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:02pm Yeah, I'm with Aussie too. Fences should be child proof. Poor gorilla.
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Reply #79 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:03pm

Aussie wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:45pm:

Gnads wrote on May 29^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

And you can't legislate for idiots

suing for your own negligence is a typical yank thing

& it's pathetic to think we are going down the same path

the parents own some responsibility here.

Sure.....but you should be able to take your toddler to a Zoo confident that the Zoo has put in place whatever is required which prevents toddler and dangerous animal coming into perilous contact......if you turn your back on the bugger for a nano second, or even longer. It ought be a very safe place for its market which includes toddlers.

Agreed. A 3 year old is not a ninja or a commando - its pretty darn simple to block their access to a deadly animal enclosure. They didn't, they should have - they are culpable.

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Reply #80 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:04pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

cods wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

its acrophobia herb...a fear of height......or a vertigo attack...

I look at that animal and it is so sad he had to die.. Cry

sue the bloody parents for letting their feral kid loose in a public place...

The zoo - and ALL other concrete-type zoos should be banned and those poor bloody animals released into a fenced-off countryside somewhere.

I remember during my last visit to Taronga Park zoo in Sydney - standing in front of the concrete cell where this enormous gorilla was sitting there disconsolately contemplating the cruel and unforgivable circumstance he was confined to for the rest of his life.

His eyes met mine and I felt an enormous surge of embarrassment and shame that I was personally party to this inhumane abuse.

I know... in the wild they will die out thanks to poachers and the fact that man encroaches on their land.....dont forget when renewable energy catches up with their habitat and it gets taken over by concrete windmills.....do you really think these beautiful creature will survive???

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Reply #81 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:06pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 11:11am:

Belgarion wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 9:20am:

Just watched an interview with the Zoo spokesman. Seems the gorilla couldn't be tranquilised because it would take too long to act and he would be pissed off in the meantime.

Duty of care cuts both ways here. The zoo should ensure that no one can access the animals, however a determined adult or curious child will always find a way around this. Parents are ultimately responsible for their children.

Welcome, Belgarion! I for one have missed your excellence contributions as demonstrated at D&R.

Thanks Herbie, good to be back after so long. I will now spend time between here and D&R.

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Reply #82 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:11pm

cods wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 1:04pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 12:08pm:

cods wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

its acrophobia herb...a fear of height......or a vertigo attack...

I look at that animal and it is so sad he had to die.. Cry

sue the bloody parents for letting their feral kid loose in a public place...

The zoo - and ALL other concrete-type zoos should be banned and those poor bloody animals released into a fenced-off countryside somewhere.

I remember during my last visit to Taronga Park zoo in Sydney - standing in front of the concrete cell where this enormous gorilla was sitting there disconsolately contemplating the cruel and unforgivable circumstance he was confined to for the rest of his life.

His eyes met mine and I felt an enormous surge of embarrassment and shame that I was personally party to this inhumane abuse.

I know... in the wild they will die out thanks to poachers and the fact that man encroaches on their land.....dont forget when renewable energy catches up with their habitat and it gets taken over by concrete windmills.....do you really think these beautiful creature will survive???

It's not renewable energy threatening ecosystems Cods.

It's deforestationn. Something greenie's are against.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #83 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:18pm Belgarion wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 1:06pm: Thanks Herbie, good to be back after so long. I will now spend time between here and D&R. Excellent. You were always one of the best posters, and you shouldn't hide your light under a bush over there in that booth-sized forum board.
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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4028 Gender:	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #84 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:25pm I am just surprised that the child did not sustain more injury falling in. Its quiet low down from the video
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Reply #85 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:29pm

tickleandrose wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 1:25pm:

I am just surprised that the child did not sustain more injury falling in. Its quiet low down from the video

The video doesn't show him falling in.

He may have entered where the wall was not quite as high.

Whatever the case, he's certainly very lucky.

He could have been killed by the fall, the gorilla, or the bullet.

Lucky kid.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #86 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:36pm There should be an inquiry as to why it took a full 10 minutes for a staff member to turn up with a gun. There should be BREAK THE GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY units in front of every dangerous animals cage.
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Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child
Reply #87 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:45pm

Belgarion wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 1:06pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 11:11am:

Belgarion wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 9:20am:

Just watched an interview with the Zoo spokesman. Seems the gorilla couldn't be tranquilised because it would take too long to act and he would be pissed off in the meantime.

Duty of care cuts both ways here. The zoo should ensure that no one can access the animals, however a determined adult or curious child will always find a way around this. Parents are ultimately responsible for their children.

Welcome, Belgarion! I for one have missed your excellence contributions as demonstrated at D&R.

Thanks Herbie, good to be back after so long. I will now spend time between here and D&R.

Hello, Belgarion

Look forward to hearing more from you. I made two posts on DR but they have been languishing in Brian's mod queue for over a week now.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #88 - May 30^th, 2016 at 1:47pm Mistress Nicole wrote on May 30^th, 2016 at 1:45pm: Hello, Belgarion Look forward to hearing more from you. I made two posts on DR but they have been languishing in Brian's mod queue for over a week now. Say no more.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38824 Gender:	Re: Gorilla shot after rescuing child Reply #89 - May 30^th, 2016 at 2:14pm Quote: I made two posts on DR but they have been languishing in Brian's mod queue for over a week now. My posts appear immediately, so that makes no sense. I was unaware of any pre-moderation of posts. Maybe that's been introduced after I joined.
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Question: Who are the guilty parties?
100% the Management 6 (40.0%) 100% the mother (father not there) 3 (20.0%) 50 / 50 the mum and Management 3 (20.0%) 80% fault of the Management 0 (0.0%) 80% fault of the mother 1 (6.7%) 90% fault of the Management 1 (6.7%) 90% fault of the mother 1 (6.7%) 100% fault of the kid 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 15 « Created by: Lord Herbert on: Jun 3^rd, 2016 at 9:09pm »