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Reply #106 - Jun 7th, 2016 at 11:28pm
 
How did Ali stand up & fight after this one?


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Reply #107 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 12:45am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 11:28pm:
How did Ali stand up & fight after this one?





How did he stand up after it ?

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Reply #108 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 1:52am
 
Love the way the "Compare Health Insurance" advert comes up at the end of the video.
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Reply #109 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:16am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 10:13pm:
Watch the video above.

Ali's speech was already slurred in 1981


yes, so what ?

he was a beautiful guy.
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Reply #111 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:31am
 



Ali is right on the button here.

You'ld have to be crazy to not want to be with your own kind
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Reply #112 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 7:24am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:16am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 10:13pm:
Watch the video above.

Ali's speech was already slurred in 1981


yes, so what ?

he was a beautiful guy.




But if you watched the video the Mayo clinic had stated he was OK.

It was obvious that he wasn't.

The video again:

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Reply #113 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 7:35am
 
Ah, I see.
I was unaware a clinic said he was ok.
He was deteriorating.
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Reply #114 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 12:40pm
 
"Ali was a kind and decent man." A man of principles who refused to kowtow to the establishment.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/06/06/pers-j06.html

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Who will follow the example of Muhammad Ali’s principled stand in our day?
6 June 2016
The death of former heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali, who, in his day, was a symbol of protest and resistance, has prompted the inevitable and instinctive effort by the establishment to appropriate his legacy for their own cynical uses.

It is hard to believe that more than half a century has passed since the first bout between Cassius Clay (Ali’s birth name) and Sonny Liston in February 1964 and more than 40 years have come and gone since Ali’s astonishing comeback.

Ali was a great athlete, but one could reasonably argue that he made his chief mark on history and popular consciousness by his courageous opposition to the Vietnam War. A product of rebellious times, Ali earned the admiration and respect of tens of millions around the globe for his act of protest.

After upsetting reigning heavyweight champion Liston in February 1964 at the age of 22, the boxer aligned himself with the black nationalist Nation of Islam and changed his name to Muhammad Ali. He defended his title numerous times, before announcing in 1966 that he would not serve in the US military and then refusing induction into the armed forces a year later.

Ali explained at the time: “My conscience won’t let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me black person, they never lynched me, they didn’t put no dogs on me, they didn’t rob me of my nationality, rape and kill my mother and father... Shoot them for what?... How can I shoot them poor people, Just take me to jail!”

Ali’s boxing license was immediately suspended and his title stripped from him by the cowardly, “patriotic” boxing authorities. He was widely vilified by sports writers, generally among the stupidest and most superficial members of the journalistic fraternity. The venerable Red Smith claimed that the fighter had made himself “as sorry a spectacle as those unwashed punks who picket and demonstrate against the war.” Another sports writer-sage, Jim Murray of the Los Angeles Times, termed Ali a “black Benedict Arnold.”
Ali was convicted at a trial in June 1967 and sentenced to five years in prison. For four years, when he was at the height of his physical powers and his case was winding its way through the courts, Ali was unable to fight. The US Supreme Court finally tossed out his conviction in 1971. During his suspension he toured the country, speaking at hundreds of colleges and universities in opposition to the war in Vietnam and on other social issues. Ali would regain his boxing license and go on to take back his heavyweight title, lose it in the ring, and then win it back a record third time.

By all accounts, his noisy, self-promoting and occasionally cruel outbursts aside, Ali was a kind and decent man. In an often barbaric sport, he exhibited great gifts, remarkable grace and elegance, and enormous physical courage. Moreover, Ali had a devilishly sharp wit. He was not only impressive in the ring but could hold his own in the company of experienced interviewers and antagonists, and even best them.
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Reply #115 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:48pm
 
9 children by 5 different women tells me all i need to know about his personal character. and he was a liar.
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Reply #116 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 3:27pm
 
ian wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:48pm:
9 children by 5 different women tells me all i need to know about his personal character. and he was a liar.


How he kept winning fights in between all that bedroom activity is something of a mystery. Flat out in the bedroom but kept vertical in the ring. Drug testing wasn't so sophisticated in those days .......

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Reply #117 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 3:36pm
 
ian wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:48pm:
9 children by 5 different women tells me all i need to know about his personal character. and he was a liar.


Well said.  I have never watched Boxing but recall seeing him on TV telling everyone "I am The Greatest". I always thought he was a poseur.

Still RIP, I suppose. Why is there so much whoo haaa about it?  Clinton giving the Eulogy and so forth?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #118 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 7:14pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 7:35am:
Ah, I see.
I was unaware a clinic said he was ok.
He was deteriorating.



It doesn't say much for the Mayo clinic.

They should be sued for $100 million.

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Find out why Mayo Clinic is the right place for your health care.
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Reply #119 - Jun 8th, 2016 at 7:20pm
 
ian wrote on Jun 8th, 2016 at 2:48pm:
9 children by 5 different women tells me all i need to know about his personal character. and he was a liar.


Ian shuns procreation except the anally simulated type? Ian has never told a lie?
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