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Reply #15 - Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:43pm
 
Steampipe wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
GordyL wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Steampipe wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:32pm:
Raven wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:11pm:
are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased???


Perhaps not by colour but some sentences handed down for well off people compared to those not so well off is shocking.

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What are the statistics on that, or is this just based on one sample.


I don't have stats on hand but I've heard countless say in USA you get the justice you can afford


Is that due to better representation or from judges being biased.


No doubt both but IMHO better representation would be a huge factor .
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Reply #16 - Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:54pm
 
There is no doubt that sentences in USA are racially based and that a black man would have got the 15 year maximum.
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Reply #17 - Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:56pm
 

So hang on, let me get this right.

This rapist is neither tinted nor a Muslim - is that correct?

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Reply #18 - Jun 7th, 2016 at 4:28pm
 
Steampipe wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:36pm:
GordyL wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Steampipe wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:32pm:
Raven wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:11pm:
are you suggesting that good ol  American judges are biased???


Perhaps not by colour but some sentences handed down for well off people compared to those not so well off is shocking.

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What are the statistics on that, or is this just based on one sample.


I don't have stats on hand but I've heard countless say in USA you get the justice you can afford


Is that due to better representation or from judges being biased.


There could be some potential bias in play. The standard view is those on a lower socio economic scale are more inclined to commit crimes and therefore should be punished more.

Though GordyL hits the nail on the head. Better representation would be a huge factor.

Poorer people have to contend with the overworked Public Defenders office. As such the ability to put up a better defence is limited.
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Reply #19 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 9:55am
 
Woman who gave character references for jock rapist suffers the consequences of public disapproval of her trivializing the rape incident to influence the sentencing.

The rapist carted the victim out of the party, deposited her behind a dumpster, stripped her and was humping away while she was unconscious.

The victim was lucky she was rescued by a couple of guys on bicycles who intervened.

She wrote “I don’t think it’s fair to base the fate of the next ten + years of his life on the decision of a girl who doesn’t remember anything but the amount she drank to press charges against him,”:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/09/nyregion/drummer-defends-stanford-student-conv...

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Good English is a small-time band from Oakwood, Ohio, three sisters with a garage rock vibe. In Brooklyn, this week, they became pariahs.

The women have found themselves at the center of a debate about sexual assault after a pre-sentencing letter written to a judge a few months ago by one of the sisters, Leslie Rasmussen, involving the case of a Stanford University student who was convicted of sexually assaulting an intoxicated woman, was made public. Ms. Rasmussen, in her letter, described the student, Brock Allen Turner, as a childhood friend and an elementary school classmate, and defended him.

In rapid succession, Good English has been dropped from several Brooklyn venues where they were scheduled to play, as well as the Northside Festival, a weeklong music festival that began on Monday. Other festivals have also announced that the band will no longer be performing.

“When people choose to defend something, then I think they should be held accountable for it,” said Daniel Stedman, a founder of the Northside Media Group, which runs the Brooklyn festival.

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In her letter, Ms. Rasmussen, 20, says that there was a distinction between rape and Mr. Turner’s case, and suggested that alcohol was to blame for his actions.

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“I don’t think it’s fair to base the fate of the next ten + years of his life on the decision of a girl who doesn’t remember anything but the amount she drank to press charges against him,” Ms. Rasmussen, who plays drums in the band, wrote. “But where do we draw the line and stop worrying about being politically correct every second of the day and see that rape on campus isn’t always because people are rapists.”

Mr. Turner was convicted of three counts of felony sexual assault for the attack, which took place in January 2015. This week the judge in the case, Aaron Persky of Superior Court in Santa Clara County, Calif., came under withering criticism from the public for the sentence he imposed: six months in jail and probation.

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Following the firestorm her letter provoked, Ms. Rasmussen said that her words were being twisted and that she was being unfairly stigmatized. “This appeal has now provided an opportunity for people to misconstrue my ideas into a distortion that suggests I sympathize with sex offenses and those who commit them or that I blame the victim involved,” she said in a statement.

Ms. Rasmussen also believed that the letter to the judge was private. But a spokesman for the court said she was wrong — such letters, like most documents entered into the court, are a matter of public record.

Within hours of Ms. Rasmussen’s letter being made public by New York magazine, Good English was removed from a roster of Brooklyn venues where they were scheduled to perform in the coming days, including Rock Shop in Gowanus, Industry City Distillery in Greenwood, Gold Sounds in Bushwick, and Bar Matchless in Greenpoint.

“We don’t want to be affiliated with anyone that’s going to try to victim-blame or even just downplay rape,” said Larry Hyland, an owner of Bar Matchless.

Mr. Hyland said he had received over 50 emails and posts on the bar’s Facebook page demanding that the band’s show be canceled. Some of the messages, he said, included threats to confront the band members if they did perform.

“We didn’t cancel the show because of censorship,” he said, adding that while he disagreed with the content of Ms. Rasmussen’s letter, he understood the impulse to want to help a childhood friend. “I wanted to avoid an unsafe environment.”

On Tuesday, the Dayton Music Art and Film Festival near the band’s hometown announced that it, too, was removing the band from its September lineup. “Such actions should not be defended, friend or not,” the festival wrote on its Facebook page. On Wednesday, Behind the Curtains Media, the public relations firm that represented Good English, dropped them from its client roster.

In her statement, Ms. Rasmussen attributed the fallout from her initial letter not to what she wrote, but to “the overzealous nature of social media.” In particular, she lamented the “uproar of judgment and hatred unleashed on me” and the effect it was having on her musical aspirations.
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Reply #20 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:35am
 
mothra wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
A black man would have got at least 10 years.



What color is OJ Simpson again?
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Reply #21 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:37am
 
AiA wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:35am:
mothra wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
A black man would have got at least 10 years.



What color is OJ Simpson again?


Mr Hammer should be able to help us with that one.

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Reply #22 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:46am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:37am:
AiA wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:35am:
mothra wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:03pm:
A black man would have got at least 10 years.



What color is OJ Simpson again?


Mr Hammer should be able to help us with that one.



Mr. Hammer visualizes every problem as a nail and then smashes it.
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Reply #23 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:50am
 
The publicity this case is getting is massively disproportionate to its importance, especially to us in Australia.  It's all about advancing the narrative.
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Reply #24 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:52am
 
... wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:50am:
The publicity this case is getting is massively disproportionate to its importance, especially to us in Australia.  It's all about advancing the narrative.


No its not. Its about privilege and the trivializing of rape by privileged persons.
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Reply #25 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:53am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:52am:
... wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:50am:
The publicity this case is getting is massively disproportionate to its importance, especially to us in Australia.  It's all about advancing the narrative.


No its not. Its about privilege and the trivializing of rape by privileged persons.


That's the narrative,  and aren't you dopes just lovin' it?
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Reply #26 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:15am
 
... wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:53am:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:52am:
... wrote on Jun 9th, 2016 at 10:50am:
The publicity this case is getting is massively disproportionate to its importance, especially to us in Australia.  It's all about advancing the narrative.


No its not. Its about privilege and the trivializing of rape by privileged persons.


That's the narrative,  and aren't you dopes just lovin' it?


Its put a bee in Honky's bonnet. Does this imply that one of Honky's loved ones was a perpetrator in a similar case?
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Reply #27 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:54am
 
Theres no bee.

I recognise someones trying to put a bee in all of our bonnets, but why would I let that happen? 

Why are you letting it happen?
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Reply #28 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:54am
 
am already sick of seeing this twat's image all over the net. he'll be guarding his own (anal) virginity soon enuf
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Reply #29 - Jun 9th, 2016 at 11:57am
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
Uh oh, crazy leftards are going down the moral equivalency highway again  Grin , essentially what they are saying is that because they have found an example of the extremely rare white rapist we should forgive a wholesale black and muslim rape culture and introduce it into our society en masse.

Leftards do this for two reasons, the female leftards want to be raped by muslims ( this is similar to the mice that want to be eaten by cats disease http://www.nature.com/news/parasite-makes-mice-lose-fear-of-cats-permanently-1.1...) and the male leftards want to rape chicks but need rape to be wholesale so that they can do it themselves without being noticed.

Basically leftards are uncultured animals that want to get back to the rule of the law of the jungle as soon as possible, this is why they gravitate towards the worst of the worst of human deviants and want to make them their new neighbours as soon as possible.


Hmm, I dont know.  If you look at the amount of child molesters going to third world country for sex, and the royal commission into institutionalized child sex abuse.  People would be forgiven to think that Aussie male have a whole sale culture of not just rape, but child molestation.
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