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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16620 In your happy place Gender:	Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence. Reply #15 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:23am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:22am: A tax will make no difference. Helping men will make a difference. Hand jobs?
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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #16 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:24am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:08am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

a tax doesn't stop domestic violence, a tax raises money that is used to then fund anti domestic violence programmes.

One guy gets killed by an extremist and you're all willing to spend BILLIONS in a "war on terror", meanwhile no one wants to spend anything when two women a week are dying because of domestic violence Cheesy

Very well put - JS
At least ONE poster is being honest and realistic

"Terrorism" is not a major problem in this country
(it IS an emotive vote winner, though)

Take a look at domestic violence deaths, the road toll and youth suicide, in comparison

It is also notable that much of this raised revenue would be used to restore funding to women's refuges and "safe house" - cut by the Abbott Government

Hey welcome back buzz. I thought you had carked it.

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Reply #17 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:26am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:22am:

A tax will make no difference.

Helping men will make a difference.

well thats what the money will do sprint... most legals are men.... Roll Eyes

remember when they invented AVOs they were going to solve all our problems... Grin

dont forget not all DV perps are male.....and we have to stop thinking like that..

and concentrate on them being Liberal home owners... Roll Eyes

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Reply #18 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:29am

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

so, its only home owners who are responsible for domestic violence..pr should that be only Liberal home owners... yeah probably.

makes sense to some.

Yes perhaps territories do need some sort of income tax or means of raising money apart from rates.

What other options in the case of ACT do they have? They are really just a big council with a few other functions.

Motor Registration levy ?
More speed cameras?
More paid parking?

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16620 In your happy place Gender:	Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence. Reply #19 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:29am cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:26am: ... dont forget not all DV perps are male.....and we have to stop thinking like that.. and concentrate on them being Liberal home owners... Shock! Horror! Lisa?
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Reply #20 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:36am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:29am:

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

so, its only home owners who are responsible for domestic violence..pr should that be only Liberal home owners... yeah probably.

makes sense to some.

Yes perhaps territories do need some sort of income tax or means of raising money apart from rates.

What other options in the case of ACT do they have? They are really just a big council with a few other functions.

Motor Registration levy ?
More speed cameras?
More paid parking?

you forget they get their share of the GST....

which labor govts refused to let them increase remember..

this is fairer dont you know???>. Roll Eyes

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence. Reply #21 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:38am Yeah, like union thugs don't put in a hard day bashing the police and picket-line crossers and then go home and bash the missus for afters.
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Reply #22 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:57am

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

so, its only home owners who are responsible for domestic violence..pr should that be only Liberal home owners... yeah probably.

makes sense to some.

Unless the federal govt. decides to act, the ACT govt. is restricted in how it can raise taxes. When you can find another way for them to raise it, feel free to share.

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Reply #23 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:01am

John Smith wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

a tax doesn't stop domestic violence, a tax raises money that is used to then fund anti domestic violence programmes.

One guy gets killed by an extremist and you're all willing to spend BILLIONS in a war on terror, meanwhile no one wants to spend anything when two women a week are dying because of domestic violence Cheesy

Precisely.

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Reply #24 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:06am

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:36am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:29am:

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

so, its only home owners who are responsible for domestic violence..pr should that be only Liberal home owners... yeah probably.

makes sense to some.

Yes perhaps territories do need some sort of income tax or means of raising money apart from rates.

What other options in the case of ACT do they have? They are really just a big council with a few other functions.

Motor Registration levy ?
More speed cameras?
More paid parking?

you forget they get their share of the GST....

which labor govts refused to let them increase remember..

this is fairer dont you know???>. Roll Eyes

Sorry! Yes I did forget the GST!

True that would be fairer.

They would require the agreement of all states to raise that.

So are you in favour of raising the GST cods?

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #25 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:18am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:06am:

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:36am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:29am:

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

so, its only home owners who are responsible for domestic violence..pr should that be only Liberal home owners... yeah probably.

makes sense to some.

Yes perhaps territories do need some sort of income tax or means of raising money apart from rates.

What other options in the case of ACT do they have? They are really just a big council with a few other functions.

Motor Registration levy ?
More speed cameras?
More paid parking?

you forget they get their share of the GST....

which labor govts refused to let them increase remember..

this is fairer dont you know???>. Roll Eyes

Sorry! Yes I did forget the GST!

True that would be fairer.

They would require the agreement of all states to raise that.

So are you in favour of raising the GST cods?

yes mate I am.. its the only tax WE ALL PAY at the same rate...and its been 10% for more than 10 years...

I spent quite a bit of time in Denmark and saw what they pay and what everything costs.. they just get on with it...... we whinge no matter what....maybe they have less waste in their govt I dont know but we seem to waste zillions and dont blink an eye...millions to aboriginals that never gets there????? year after year....its a bloody disgrace but do we stop it>>>>>>nah to hard..

so yes I am in favour of a GST increase... to me its fair ..

it isnt always the tax we pay that runs me out its the way its spent..

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #26 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:21am

John Smith wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:57am:

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 10:19am:

so, its only home owners who are responsible for domestic violence..pr should that be only Liberal home owners... yeah probably.

makes sense to some.

Unless the federal govt. decides to act, the ACT govt. is restricted in how it can raise taxes. When you can find another way for them to raise it, feel free to share.

well Vic is planning the same.. and we have no govt at the moment....I have already said increase the GST but the whingers win every time...

do you think this is a fair tax?????

we have seen the destruction of homes and property which we home owners will face an increase on our insurance this year sure as god made little apples...

when theres a bush fire up goes the fire insurance we are forced to pay.......

there is no end to it..

do you think that is FAIR TAX..

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence. Reply #27 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:22am don't forget the "penis tax" cods. it comes in many forms and applies only to men.
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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #28 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:28am

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:21am:

.I have already said increase the GST but the whingers win every time...

I'd rather you pay for the ACT's policies than me.

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:21am:

do you think this is a fair tax?????

no, but that's irrelevant. The ACT got. is limited in how they raise taxes. Do you cry when speed camera revenue that you don't contribute to is used to pick up your garbage? Or fix the street out front of your house?

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:21am:

when theres a bush fire up goes the fire insurance we are forced to pay.......

so don't live in the bush.

We ALL pay for the effects of domestic violence. It ties up our courts, our police, our hospitals staff, our emergency services, we spend a fortune on trying to protect the women through various govt. funded organisations. You can cry that you're not violent so you shouldn't pay, it's not fair ..... but if you don't pay, it's cost you more in the long run.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence. Reply #29 - Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:28am AiA wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 11:22am: don't forget the "penis tax" cods. it comes in many forms and applies only to men. well not in Canberra mate... the guy whos come up with this is gay so he wouldnt go there I am sure...isnt it his most valuable asset??>..and a tax free zone.
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