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Reply #150 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am

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Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:31am:

people can smuggle in bombs as well so lets make them legal, they can smuggle in grenades if they so wished so why not sell them at school canteens, they can and do smuggle in drugs so lets make that legal ... oh wait, that would require logic ... something the N.R.A is bereft off

Bombs and Grenades aren't protected by the 2A you dim wit, I see Aussie Bikie gang was caught with a Russian grenade recently along with the usual collection of illegal semi auto firearms.

Lots of strawmen from the gun grabbers.

neither are fully automatic or semi automatic weapons you dim wit. Cheesy

Cite where it says anything about semi auto or auto guns in the 2A ya dopey dim wit

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Reply #151 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:37am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:58am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:31am:

people can smuggle in bombs as well so lets make them legal, they can smuggle in grenades if they so wished so why not sell them at school canteens, they can and do smuggle in drugs so lets make that legal ... oh wait, that would require logic ... something the N.R.A is bereft off

Bombs and Grenades aren't protected by the 2A you dim wit, I see Aussie Bikie gang was caught with a Russian grenade recently along with the usual collection of illegal semi auto firearms.

Lots of strawmen from the gun grabbers.

neither are fully automatic or semi automatic weapons you dim wit. Cheesy

Cite where it says anything about semi auto or auto guns in the 2A ya dopey dim wit

it doesn't ... yet it's the pro gunners who are crying the 2A gives them the right to own them Cheesy

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Reply #152 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:41am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:13am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:54am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:42am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:40am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 11:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

And I think thats the key issuevoter, no ones really suggesting ban all guns but surely reasonable limitations are fine. Keep your handguns but get rid of more powerful stuff and have stroing background checks and enforce them

you're kidding? they can't even accept a one hour waiting period without crying about the 2nd amendment ... they have no idea what reasonable is

Here Are The 4 Gun Proposals The Senate Is Voting On (Again)

June 20, 201610:43 AM ET

Source: NPR Quote:

Just over a week after the deadly nightclub rampage in Orlando, the Senate will take up four amendments Monday related to guns and terror — two from Democrats and two from Republicans.

Such a quick vote after a tragedy is not remarkable. Proposals were put forth — and rejected — right after the murders of children and teachers in Sandy Hook Elementary School 2 1/2 years ago. Bills very similar to those coming up for a vote now were actually taken up just one day after the mass killing in San Bernardino in December. They too failed. So there's little reason for optimism on the part of advocates of tougher gun laws this time around, when defeat is once again the most likely outcome for these latest proposals......continued

And yet those seem at least minor reasonable steps, but look at LaPierre popping his head up again.

https://i.imgsafe.org/cc53b28.gif

They won't pass

. https://i.imgsafe.org/aca6f67.gif

God Bless the NRA!

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SO why are you against the legislation?

I'm against any & all proposed legislation that will not solve the problem, that will further erode the freedom & liberty of law abiding citizens, & only open the door for further gun-grabbing legislation, because as we know, the anti-gun left will never stop short of further outlandish restrictions, total bans & or confiscations, which are totally unacceptable.

Arrest & jail every felon/criminal (which includes the certified mental defectives) that attempts to purchase a firearm.......15 year mandatory minimum at hard labor for starters. Anyone who sells firearms to those people too.....20 years mandatory minimum at hard labor for starters for them.

I'd consider supporting that kind of proposal, which won't stop mass murders, but it's a responsible start, one that leaves the freedoms & rights of law abiding gun owners completely free from restriction.

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Re: Crazy Yanky gun laws
Reply #153 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:42am

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:37am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:58am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:31am:

people can smuggle in bombs as well so lets make them legal, they can smuggle in grenades if they so wished so why not sell them at school canteens, they can and do smuggle in drugs so lets make that legal ... oh wait, that would require logic ... something the N.R.A is bereft off

Bombs and Grenades aren't protected by the 2A you dim wit, I see Aussie Bikie gang was caught with a Russian grenade recently along with the usual collection of illegal semi auto firearms.

Lots of strawmen from the gun grabbers.

neither are fully automatic or semi automatic weapons you dim wit. Cheesy

Cite where it says anything about semi auto or auto guns in the 2A ya dopey dim wit

it doesn't ... yet it's the pro gunners who are crying the 2A gives them the right to own them Cheesy

Come on buddy, admit you want one too. If you can't have one nobody should have one, right?

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Re: Crazy Yanky gun laws
Reply #154 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:45am

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:41am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:13am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:54am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:42am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:40am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 11:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

And I think thats the key issuevoter, no ones really suggesting ban all guns but surely reasonable limitations are fine. Keep your handguns but get rid of more powerful stuff and have stroing background checks and enforce them

you're kidding? they can't even accept a one hour waiting period without crying about the 2nd amendment ... they have no idea what reasonable is

Here Are The 4 Gun Proposals The Senate Is Voting On (Again)

June 20, 201610:43 AM ET

Source: NPR Quote:

Just over a week after the deadly nightclub rampage in Orlando, the Senate will take up four amendments Monday related to guns and terror — two from Democrats and two from Republicans.

Such a quick vote after a tragedy is not remarkable. Proposals were put forth — and rejected — right after the murders of children and teachers in Sandy Hook Elementary School 2 1/2 years ago. Bills very similar to those coming up for a vote now were actually taken up just one day after the mass killing in San Bernardino in December. They too failed. So there's little reason for optimism on the part of advocates of tougher gun laws this time around, when defeat is once again the most likely outcome for these latest proposals......continued

And yet those seem at least minor reasonable steps, but look at LaPierre popping his head up again.

https://i.imgsafe.org/cc53b28.gif

They won't pass

. https://i.imgsafe.org/aca6f67.gif

God Bless the NRA!

https://i.imgsafe.org/f29b32b.gif

SO why are you against the legislation?

I'm against any proposed legislation that will not solve the problem, will further erode the freedom & liberty of law abiding citizens, & only open the door for further gun-grabbing legislation, because as we know, the left will never stop short of total bans & or confiscations, which is totally unacceptable.

Arrest & jail every felon/criminal (which includes the certified mental defectives) that attempts to purchase a firearm.......15 year mandatory minimum at hard labor for starters. Anyone who sells firearms to those people too.....20 years mandatory minimum at hard labor for starters for them.

I'd consider supporting that kind of proposal, which won't stop mass murders, but it's a responsible start, one that leaves the freedoms & rights of law abiding gun owners completely free from restriction.

1st issue I'd have with that is what would you classify as mental defective

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Re: Crazy Yanky gun laws
Reply #155 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:49am

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:42am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:37am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:58am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:31am:

people can smuggle in bombs as well so lets make them legal, they can smuggle in grenades if they so wished so why not sell them at school canteens, they can and do smuggle in drugs so lets make that legal ... oh wait, that would require logic ... something the N.R.A is bereft off

Bombs and Grenades aren't protected by the 2A you dim wit, I see Aussie Bikie gang was caught with a Russian grenade recently along with the usual collection of illegal semi auto firearms.

Lots of strawmen from the gun grabbers.

neither are fully automatic or semi automatic weapons you dim wit. Cheesy

Cite where it says anything about semi auto or auto guns in the 2A ya dopey dim wit

it doesn't ... yet it's the pro gunners who are crying the 2A gives them the right to own them Cheesy

Come on buddy, admit you want one too. If you can't have one nobody should have one, right?

not at all ... I even used to shoot but gave it up last year.

I just don't see how anyone with a modicum of common sense can argue about changes like banning military grade weapons, stopping suspected terrorists from buying guns or making people wait a minimum period before they can purchase a gun. It's ridiculous .

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Re: Crazy Yanky gun laws
Reply #156 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:57am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:45am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:41am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:13am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:54am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:42am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:40am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 11:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

And I think thats the key issuevoter, no ones really suggesting ban all guns but surely reasonable limitations are fine. Keep your handguns but get rid of more powerful stuff and have stroing background checks and enforce them

you're kidding? they can't even accept a one hour waiting period without crying about the 2nd amendment ... they have no idea what reasonable is

Here Are The 4 Gun Proposals The Senate Is Voting On (Again)

June 20, 201610:43 AM ET

Source: NPR Quote:

Just over a week after the deadly nightclub rampage in Orlando, the Senate will take up four amendments Monday related to guns and terror — two from Democrats and two from Republicans.

Such a quick vote after a tragedy is not remarkable. Proposals were put forth — and rejected — right after the murders of children and teachers in Sandy Hook Elementary School 2 1/2 years ago. Bills very similar to those coming up for a vote now were actually taken up just one day after the mass killing in San Bernardino in December. They too failed. So there's little reason for optimism on the part of advocates of tougher gun laws this time around, when defeat is once again the most likely outcome for these latest proposals......continued

And yet those seem at least minor reasonable steps, but look at LaPierre popping his head up again.

https://i.imgsafe.org/cc53b28.gif

They won't pass

. https://i.imgsafe.org/aca6f67.gif

God Bless the NRA!

https://i.imgsafe.org/f29b32b.gif

SO why are you against the legislation?

I'm against any proposed legislation that will not solve the problem, will further erode the freedom & liberty of law abiding citizens, & only open the door for further gun-grabbing legislation, because as we know, the left will never stop short of total bans & or confiscations, which is totally unacceptable.

Arrest & jail every felon/criminal (which includes the certified mental defectives) that attempts to purchase a firearm.......15 year mandatory minimum at hard labor for starters. Anyone who sells firearms to those people too.....20 years mandatory minimum at hard labor for starters for them.

I'd consider supporting that kind of proposal, which won't stop mass murders, but it's a responsible start, one that leaves the freedoms & rights of law abiding gun owners completely free from restriction.

1st issue I'd have with that is what would you classify as mental defective

IMHO.....Someone who is Certified mentally defective, one who displays a strong tendency towards violence, one certified as a danger to themselves, & most importantly a danger to society.

They can go about their lives under treatment, but without legal access to firearms.

If they ever get certified as cured, & have displayed no regression for a specific length of time, say 10 years, they could then apply to have their sanity reinstated (legally). Until then they can't have firearms.

That's my personal opinion.

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Re: Crazy Yanky gun laws
Reply #157 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:04pm

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:57am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:45am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:41am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:13am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:54am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:42am:

Panther wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:40am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 11:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

And I think thats the key issuevoter, no ones really suggesting ban all guns but surely reasonable limitations are fine. Keep your handguns but get rid of more powerful stuff and have stroing background checks and enforce them

you're kidding? they can't even accept a one hour waiting period without crying about the 2nd amendment ... they have no idea what reasonable is

Here Are The 4 Gun Proposals The Senate Is Voting On (Again)

June 20, 201610:43 AM ET

Source: NPR Quote:

Just over a week after the deadly nightclub rampage in Orlando, the Senate will take up four amendments Monday related to guns and terror — two from Democrats and two from Republicans.

Such a quick vote after a tragedy is not remarkable. Proposals were put forth — and rejected — right after the murders of children and teachers in Sandy Hook Elementary School 2 1/2 years ago. Bills very similar to those coming up for a vote now were actually taken up just one day after the mass killing in San Bernardino in December. They too failed. So there's little reason for optimism on the part of advocates of tougher gun laws this time around, when defeat is once again the most likely outcome for these latest proposals......continued

And yet those seem at least minor reasonable steps, but look at LaPierre popping his head up again.

https://i.imgsafe.org/cc53b28.gif

They won't pass

. https://i.imgsafe.org/aca6f67.gif

God Bless the NRA!

https://i.imgsafe.org/f29b32b.gif

SO why are you against the legislation?

I'm against any proposed legislation that will not solve the problem, will further erode the freedom & liberty of law abiding citizens, & only open the door for further gun-grabbing legislation, because as we know, the left will never stop short of total bans & or confiscations, which is totally unacceptable.

Arrest & jail every felon/criminal (which includes the certified mental defectives) that attempts to purchase a firearm.......15 year mandatory minimum at hard labor for starters. Anyone who sells firearms to those people too.....20 years mandatory minimum at hard labor for starters for them.

I'd consider supporting that kind of proposal, which won't stop mass murders, but it's a responsible start, one that leaves the freedoms & rights of law abiding gun owners completely free from restriction.

1st issue I'd have with that is what would you classify as mental defective

IMHO.....Someone who is Certified mentally defective, one who displays a strong tendency towards violence, one certified as a danger to themselves, & most importantly a danger to society.

They can go about their lives under treatment, but without legal access to firearms.

If they ever get certified as cured, & have displayed no regression for a specific length of time, say 10 years, they could then apply to have their sanity reinstated (legally). Until then they can't have firearms.

That's my personal opinion.

Its not a bad definition, how do you plan to stop accidental shootings?

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Re: Crazy Yanky gun laws
Reply #158 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:14pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:04pm:

Its not a bad definition, how do you plan to stop accidental shootings?

There is only one realistic way, continuing education on how to properly use firearms effectively & safely for all legal firearms owners, & other Americans who wish to further their firearm awareness.

Again, that's my personal opinion.

Oh, BTW.....all 4 of those previously mentioned proposed gun control laws have been resoundingly voted down in the US Congress.

That I heartily applaud!

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Reply #159 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:17pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:49am:

I just don't see how anyone with a modicum of common sense can argue about changes like banning military grade weapons...

There is no need for them in public hands. Besides, full auto is relatively useless in 97% of military situations. When I was in the military doing shooting practice on a Marine range, we were sometimes given bi-pods and told to "swat down" targets at a minimum of 25 meters if memory serves. On full auto it was rather difficult to hit anything. You can tell from this vid these toolsack rednecks are blowing through their wad of ammo and hitting little of the target.

Instead, we kept our M4's on semi in an actual firefight as a lesson. Not to say I wouldn't want the option in close quarters battle in room clearing or in an ambush, at which U.S. infantry is at some disadvantages with the M4 and it's useless "3-round burst". Still, I cringe when they all have their M4s on full auto in The Walking Dead, which makes zero sense.

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Reply #161 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:57pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:19pm:

http://time.com/4172274/what-its-like-to-own-guns-in-a-country-with-strict-gun-c...

I read the article in your link, I think it is fake. That worm thinks asking permission from his government to own and use a Red Rider B B gun is freedom. How totally ass backwards is that?

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Reply #162 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 1:03pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:57pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:19pm:

http://time.com/4172274/what-its-like-to-own-guns-in-a-country-with-strict-gun-c...

I read the article in your link, I think it is fake. That worm thinks asking permission from his government to own and use a Red Rider B B gun is freedom. How totally ass backwards is that?

Umm, he never said that/.

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Reply #163 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 1:22pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:49am:

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:42am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:37am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:02am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:58am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:31am:

people can smuggle in bombs as well so lets make them legal, they can smuggle in grenades if they so wished so why not sell them at school canteens, they can and do smuggle in drugs so lets make that legal ... oh wait, that would require logic ... something the N.R.A is bereft off

Bombs and Grenades aren't protected by the 2A you dim wit, I see Aussie Bikie gang was caught with a Russian grenade recently along with the usual collection of illegal semi auto firearms.

Lots of strawmen from the gun grabbers.

neither are fully automatic or semi automatic weapons you dim wit. Cheesy

Cite where it says anything about semi auto or auto guns in the 2A ya dopey dim wit

it doesn't ... yet it's the pro gunners who are crying the 2A gives them the right to own them Cheesy

Come on buddy, admit you want one too. If you can't have one nobody should have one, right?

not at all ... I even used to shoot but gave it up last year.

I just don't see how anyone with a modicum of common sense can argue about changes like banning military grade weapons,

The 1911 is a military grade semi auto pistol was it made in 1911?

So why is a military semi auto pistol ok yet rilfes bad?

Are more people killed with pistols than the 300 or so killed with rifles which include those scary back semi auto rifles?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75080 Gender:	Re: Crazy Yanky gun laws Reply #164 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 2:08pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 1:22pm: So why is a military semi auto pistol ok yet rilfes bad? who ever said semi auto pistols are OK?
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