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Reply #15 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:14pm
 
Ban muslims and guns.
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Reply #16 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:17pm
 
GordyL wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:14pm:
Ban muslims and guns.


Let's see what Trump will do if he wins.
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Reply #17 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?



& yet an insane terrorist had no trouble getting military weapons.


Yeas he did Bobby......but......where were the other people who ought to have been armed to the teeth to defend themselves with guns, as they have a right to says the NRA which opposes gun control so that citizens can be armed for self defence against this sort of attack.
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Reply #18 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:20pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?



& yet an insane terrorist had no trouble getting military weapons.


Yeas he did Bobby......but......where were the other people who ought to have been armed to the teeth to defend themselves with guns, as they have a right to says the NRA which opposes gun control so that citizens can be armed for self defence against this sort of attack.



I thought the night clubs had armed guards?
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Reply #19 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?



& yet an insane terrorist had no trouble getting military weapons.


Yeas he did Bobby......but......where were the other people who ought to have been armed to the teeth to defend themselves with guns, as they have a right to says the NRA which opposes gun control so that citizens can be armed for self defence against this sort of attack.



I thought the night clubs had armed guards?


That club is a gun free zone, all these shootings tend to happen in the gun free zones.


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Reply #20 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:36pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?



& yet an insane terrorist had no trouble getting military weapons.


Yeas he did Bobby......but......where were the other people who ought to have been armed to the teeth to defend themselves with guns, as they have a right to says the NRA which opposes gun control so that citizens can be armed for self defence against this sort of attack.



I thought the night clubs had armed guards?


That club is a gun free zone, all these shootings tend to happen in the gun free zones.




In 1997 I went to a night club in downtown  L.A.  -

there was security just like at an airport:

an archway with a metal detector to walk through,
security scan with a metal detector wand,
armed guards with pistols.

What the hell was going on in Orlando?

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Reply #21 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:43pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:36pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?



& yet an insane terrorist had no trouble getting military weapons.


Yeas he did Bobby......but......where were the other people who ought to have been armed to the teeth to defend themselves with guns, as they have a right to says the NRA which opposes gun control so that citizens can be armed for self defence against this sort of attack.



I thought the night clubs had armed guards?


That club is a gun free zone, all these shootings tend to happen in the gun free zones.




In 1997 I went to a night club in downtown  L.A.  -

there was security just like at an airport:

an archway with a metal detector to walk through,
security scan with a metal detector wand,
armed guards with pistols.

What the hell was going on in Orlando?



Florida law doesn't allow those with concealed carry permits to carry in places that are licensed to sell alcohol.

It's just another attack like Charlie Hebdo or Bataclan, France has strict gun laws they did nothing in those cases.

LA has tough gun laws they banned assault rifles in 1994, have a look at Californias gun laws.


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Reply #22 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:46pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?



& yet an insane terrorist had no trouble getting military weapons.


Yeas he did Bobby......but......where were the other people who ought to have been armed to the teeth to defend themselves with guns, as they have a right to says the NRA which opposes gun control so that citizens can be armed for self defence against this sort of attack.



I thought the night clubs had armed guards?


That club is a gun free zone, all these shootings tend to happen in the gun free zones.




Self evidently, not.
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Reply #23 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:51pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:36pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?



& yet an insane terrorist had no trouble getting military weapons.


Yeas he did Bobby......but......where were the other people who ought to have been armed to the teeth to defend themselves with guns, as they have a right to says the NRA which opposes gun control so that citizens can be armed for self defence against this sort of attack.



I thought the night clubs had armed guards?


That club is a gun free zone, all these shootings tend to happen in the gun free zones.




In 1997 I went to a night club in downtown  L.A.  -

there was security just like at an airport:

an archway with a metal detector to walk through,
security scan with a metal detector wand,
armed guards with pistols.

What the hell was going on in Orlando?



Florida law doesn't allow those with concealed carry permits to carry in places that are licensed to sell alcohol.

It's just another attack like Charlie Hebdo or Bataclan, France has strict gun laws they did nothing in those cases.

LA has tough gun laws they banned assault rifles in 1994, have a look at Californias gun laws.





I don't know about the laws in the USA.

I know that I felt safe in the night club in LA -
as no one could get in there with a knife or a gun.

We need security like that here now - after this -
not that I ever go to clubs anymore.

Let's see what our leader - Malcolm - does?
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Reply #24 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 5:55pm
 
After one of these attacks, the first thing the left want to do is attack the gun. The scary black .223 hunting rifle, with the folding stock, metal rails, & military aura about it.

Silly as it sounds, they blame the gun.

Did the gun charge into the crowded nightclub, & start randomly killing people all by it's lonesome?

My moneys on that at some point in time, someone had to pull it's trigger......more than once.....but the left has no answer to that......they blame the gun. It was the gun.

What about the millions upon millions of guns that are never used to commit a mass shooting?

What about the millions upon millions of their owners that never commit, & will never commit, mass shootings?

But the left tries to float their false assumptions that all that is necessary is to ban the sale of assault rifles (which is a false description, but it sounds scarey so it might work).

The AR15 was banned in 1994. Did that law stop mass shootings after the ban? The answer is no. Why didn't mass shootings stop? Because the shooters went on to use different firearms.

Actually, the use of the AR15 was hardly ever used by mass shooters, but the left figured they were scarey, so passing laws against them might work.

How many semiautomatic rifles are in public hands today in America?

If you estimated over 6 million, you might be correct.

If you estimated over 3 million, you might be correct.

If you estimated over 4,347,193 you might be correct.

Wait a minute, how can all these estimates be correct?

Why? Because the true number is unknown, so we can only estimate how many their might be.

Nobody knows the exact number, or even close to the exact number of semiautomatic rifles are in American hands.

And just for your information, the U.S. Federal Government would probably be the last to know, because maintaining records like that in America is against the law.

Awww, that can't be true. Can it?

Absolutely can be, & is.

So, how can you ban guns when you don't know who owns them, where they are, & how many may or may not exist.

Short answer.......you can't.

Also, for your information, the only bad guns, & the only bad gun owners are those that have used their firearms illegally, which means that well in excess of 99.9999+% of all semiautomatic weapons are owned by people that haven't used them illegally in mass shootings.

So, if you listen to the left by banning all those firearms, it still wouldn't have stopped the Orlando Nightclub shooter. Those 50+ dead Americans would still be dead, & no one in America would be any safer.

I just wanted to add, the law is yet to be devised that would guarantee 100% participation, & criminals never participate.   Wink

Next, I need to hear from the left who has a good estimate on how many American semiautomatic firearms owners.....you know the law abiding legal ones.....how many of those Americans will be willing to gather up their semiautomatics & drop on over to a firearm dump site, & hand in their firearms like they did here?

10%.......15%......20%......25%......28%......How many of those unknown owners will turn in their firearms, & then of the rest, how is the Government going to convince those hardcore's to play nice & turn in firearms they the  Government don't even know they have?

Oh, & forget the hundreds upon hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition the Government doesn't know about either, for those same unknown semiautomatics. Wink

But ask the left, they have all the answers, it's just a bag full of legislation out of their grasp.

Brooklyn Bridge anyone.....I'd be willing to throw in the Sphinx as a sweetener! ...





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Reply #25 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:14pm
 
OK Panther - you're right - America is finished -

nothing can be done about mass shootings.
it's a war zone & many more 1000s of people will die.

Already - over 30,000 Americans die every year from guns -
a lot of them from suicides.

I am glad we live here.
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Reply #26 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:14pm:
OK Panther - you're right - America is finished -

nothing can be done about mass shootings.
it's a war zone & many more 1000s of people will die.

Already - over 30,000 Americans die every year from guns -
a lot of them from suicides.

I am glad we live here.


Very understandable, & there are over 320 million over there that feel exactly the same way too.


An honest answer, to a serious problem, can be summed up with this:


Lord, grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the Courage to change the things I can,  & the Wisdom to know the difference.



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Reply #27 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:42pm
 
Panther wrote on Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:14pm:
OK Panther - you're right - America is finished -

nothing can be done about mass shootings.
it's a war zone & many more 1000s of people will die.

Already - over 30,000 Americans die every year from guns -
a lot of them from suicides.

I am glad we live here.


Very understandable, & there are over 320 million over there that feel exactly the same way too.


An honest answer, to a serious problem, can be summed up with this:


Lord grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the Courage to change the things I can,  And the Wisdom to know the difference.






Yes - people will just have to accept that being gunned down by a madman could happen to them
& get on with their lives as -
there is nothing they can do about it.
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Reply #28 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:42pm:
Panther wrote on Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 14th, 2016 at 6:14pm:
OK Panther - you're right - America is finished -

nothing can be done about mass shootings.
it's a war zone & many more 1000s of people will die.

Already - over 30,000 Americans die every year from guns -
a lot of them from suicides.

I am glad we live here.


Very understandable, & there are over 320 million over there that feel exactly the same way too.


An honest answer, to a serious problem, can be summed up with this:


Lord grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the Courage to change the things I can,  And the Wisdom to know the difference.






Yes - people will just have to accept that being gunned down by a madman could happen to them
& get on with their lives as -
there is nothing they can do about it.


Exactly.......

What is, is......what will be, will be.......America will, like always, will get up.....brush itself off.....& continue on...& on....& on....   Wink

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Reply #29 - Jun 14th, 2016 at 9:43pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?



& yet an insane terrorist had no trouble getting military weapons.


Yeas he did Bobby......but......where were the other people who ought to have been armed to the teeth to defend themselves with guns, as they have a right to says the NRA which opposes gun control so that citizens can be armed for self defence against this sort of attack.



I thought the night clubs had armed guards?


That club is a gun free zone, all these shootings tend to happen in the gun free zones.







Tend to or do?
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