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Reply #45 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 3:13pm

Panther wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 3:05pm:

No you're right, Yanks are idiots, so no I dont. If they had any intelligence, then yes, I'd expect it but way too many people like yourself there that just accpet google search numbers as proof.

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.......There are no laws anywhere in the world that will stop a crazed individual from obtaining & using a firearm for mass murder if they are intent on doing so......just because it hasn't happened here yet, doesn't mean it never will.....there are plenty of illegal semiautomatics here too, so don't kid yourself Mr.Ed.

Yes, just because it hasnt happened in the 20 years since the ban was placed, theres no evidence to suggest it won't happen tomorrow. You could give lessons in logic to Boole.

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Reply #46 - Jun 15^th, 2016 at 3:36pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 3:13pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 15^th, 2016 at 3:05pm:

No you're right, Yanks are idiots, so no I dont. If they had any intelligence, then yes, I'd expect it but way too many people like yourself there that just accpet google search numbers as proof.

White Flag accepted
.......There are no laws anywhere in the world that will stop a crazed individual from obtaining & using a firearm for mass murder if they are intent on doing so......just because it hasn't happened here yet, doesn't mean it never will.....there are plenty of illegal semiautomatics here too, so don't kid yourself Mr. Ed.

The best bet on why it hasn't happened here since 1996 is that our crazies just aren't as smart or as cunning as their crazies are.

Officials have no clue on how many types of illegal guns are in Australia

Source: The Business Insider Quote:
A parliamentary inquiry has found that Australian authorities have no true data on how many illegal guns are in the country.

The Senate committee’s report says that despite the Australian Crime Commission estimating there are approximately 260,000 illegal guns, the figure is seen as a “conservative” guess.

The uncertainty around the size of the illicit market has prompted the Senate to call for improvements in the country’s record-keeping of firearms, including how it is collected and how accurate it is, as well as cracking down on the regulations around 3D printing.

The Sydney Morning Herald reports that the inquiry found that much of the data kept by authorities was out of date and that there was a discrepancy between the types of data sets kept by the ACC and the Australian Institute of Criminology – the only organisations in Australia to keep such information........

Yes, just because it hasnt happened in the 20 years since the ban was placed, theres no evidence to suggest it won't happen tomorrow. You could give lessons in logic to Boole.

Nor any evidence that it couldn't happen here in Australia......why it hasn't would be pure speculation on our part, beyond an educated guess, but I would have to say IMHO we are all enjoying a borrowed luxury.....a gift from above, & that gift has an unknown expiry date.

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Reply #47 - Jun 16^th, 2016 at 8:01pm

JFYI......The egg is all over the MSM's faces yet again.

The Extreme-Left Gun Grabbing Wackos got it all wrong again.

The Orlando Shooter.....the Islamic Terrorist that shot up that Orlando Gay Dance Club in the name of ISIS......didn't use an AR15 after all.......you know the demonized hunting rifle they want so badly to criminalize as an Assault Rifle, which it isn't.........he used a Military Grade Sig Sauer MCX:

Military Sig Sauer MCX.

Below is the AR15 Hunting Rifle the Left errantly calls an "Assault Rifle". The AR15 is the most popular hunting rifle, not only in America, but the most popular hunting rifle in the world:

In their haste to judgment.......to blame the gun.........they got caught by the short & curlies in their latest lie, & their credibility is now being dashed in every news media (Radio, TV, & News Print) all across America!

Sorry gun-grabbers, back to yer split-tongued drawing boards.....you can't use the corpses of those dead Orlando victims for your Gun-Grabbing LGBT Crusade of Deceit any longer.

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Reply #50 - Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:36pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Good for you, Are you a professional animal culler?

In America, the center focus of the OP's original post if you recall, they have something you may have heard of......it's the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.....the Law of the Land......the law which tells the government...not the people....it tells the government what it, the government, is permitted to do, & what it, the government can't do, & what it, the government must do.

An American needs only a simple phrased statement.....all the rest is immaterial.....

Q.....Why do you need a gun, any gun.......why do you want a gun, any gun?

A......The simple answer is:

"It doesn't matter why I do, or why I don't. I don't need to justify my position with need - only my desire to own."

Crazy Yankee Gun Laws they say........but, laws that are, & law it is.

The Right to Keep & Bear Arms ........That's a right guaranteed in the American Constitution......the Law of the Land, end of discussion.

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Reply #51 - Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:45pm

So reassuring for the victims of firearms violence, Panther. Roll Eyes

So, can a criminal therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can a child therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can anyone have access to a fully automatic firearm legally in the USA?

If you answer no, what does that suggest about the supposed universality of the US second amendment? Roll Eyes

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Reply #52 - Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

So reassuring for the victims of firearms violence, Panther. Roll Eyes

So, can a criminal therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can a child therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can anyone have access to a fully automatic firearm legally in the USA?

If you answer no, what does that suggest about the supposed universality of the US second amendment? Roll Eyes

The Second Amendment does not give or parse rights......it instructs the government in what it can't do......the government can not infringe on an Americans right to Keep & Bear Arms.....the police have to curtail the criminal such as felons who by law have lost their right to keep & bear firearms..........the parents need to curtail their children who have limited rights until they reach 18 years of age, & the Courts have decided that in some cases.....automatic weapons for example.....the government can restrict ownership of some weapons.....grenades are another example.....since 1986 fully automatic weapons have been restricted.....the courts revisit this every year, but to date, AFAIK, little resistance from the public keeps this restriction active.

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Reply #53 - Jun 16^th, 2016 at 10:04pm

Panther wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

So reassuring for the victims of firearms violence, Panther. Roll Eyes

So, can a criminal therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can a child therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can anyone have access to a fully automatic firearm legally in the USA?

If you answer no, what does that suggest about the supposed universality of the US second amendment? Roll Eyes

The Second Amendment does not give or parse rights......it instructs the government in what it can't do......the government can not infringe on an Americans right to Keep & Bear Arms.....the police have to curtail the criminal such as felons who by law have lost their right to keep & bear firearms..........the parents need to curtail their children who have limited rights until they reach 18 years of age, & the Courts have decided that in some cases.....automatic weapons for example.....the government can restrict ownership of some weapons.....grenades are another example.....since 1986 fully automatic weapons have been restricted.....the courts revisit this every year, but to date, AFAIK, little resistance from the public keeps this restriction active.

Maybe they need reeducation, or bewing Yanks an education

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Reply #54 - Jun 16^th, 2016 at 10:08pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 10:04pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

So reassuring for the victims of firearms violence, Panther. Roll Eyes

So, can a criminal therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can a child therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can anyone have access to a fully automatic firearm legally in the USA?

If you answer no, what does that suggest about the supposed universality of the US second amendment? Roll Eyes

The Second Amendment does not give or parse rights......it instructs the government in what it can't do......the government can not infringe on an Americans right to Keep & Bear Arms.....the police have to curtail the criminal such as felons who by law have lost their right to keep & bear firearms..........the parents need to curtail their children who have limited rights until they reach 18 years of age, & the Courts have decided that in some cases.....automatic weapons for example.....the government can restrict ownership of some weapons.....grenades are another example.....since 1986 fully automatic weapons have been restricted.....the courts revisit this every year, but to date, AFAIK, little resistance from the public keeps this restriction active.

Maybe they need reeducation, or bewing Yanks an education

Draft a curriculum, & submit it to the United States Department of Education.......you might succeed, if they decide to open the envelope.

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Reply #55 - Jun 16^th, 2016 at 10:12pm

Panther wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 10:08pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 10:04pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:45pm:

So reassuring for the victims of firearms violence, Panther. Roll Eyes

So, can a criminal therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can a child therefore get access to a firearm legally in the USA?

So, can anyone have access to a fully automatic firearm legally in the USA?

If you answer no, what does that suggest about the supposed universality of the US second amendment? Roll Eyes

The Second Amendment does not give or parse rights......it instructs the government in what it can't do......the government can not infringe on an Americans right to Keep & Bear Arms.....the police have to curtail the criminal such as felons who by law have lost their right to keep & bear firearms..........the parents need to curtail their children who have limited rights until they reach 18 years of age, & the Courts have decided that in some cases.....automatic weapons for example.....the government can restrict ownership of some weapons.....grenades are another example.....since 1986 fully automatic weapons have been restricted.....the courts revisit this every year, but to date, AFAIK, little resistance from the public keeps this restriction active.

Maybe they need reeducation, or bewing Yanks an education

Draft a curriculum, & submit it to the United States Department of Education.......you might succeed, if they decide to open the envelope. https://i.imgsafe.org/5f6a4cf.gif

Wel;l my linked in says curriculum development so yes i will

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Reply #57 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 6:53am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:

Panther - who cares what gun it was?

It's what happened that matters.

forgiven

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the point is he was able to fire repeatedly not giving anyone a chance.....and these guns are available to anyone who can afford them...

just walk out of a mental hospital and walk in and buy one.they are just hanging off the walls........

.. its their right...

makes sense to some.

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Reply #58 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 6:56am

cods wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 6:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:

Panther - who cares what gun it was?

It's what happened that matters.

forgiven

namaste

the point is he was able to fire repeatedly not giving anyone a chance.....and these guns are available to anyone who can afford them...

just walk out of a mental hospital and walk in and buy one.they are just hanging off the walls........

.. its their right...

makes sense to some.

That's correct Cods - so the Yanks do have crazy gun laws.
We can't buy such weapons here.

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Reply #59 - Jun 17^th, 2016 at 7:32am

cods wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 6:53am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:

Panther - who cares what gun it was?

It's what happened that matters.

forgiven

namaste

the point is he was able to fire repeatedly not giving anyone a chance.....and these guns are available to anyone who can afford them...

just walk out of a mental hospital and walk in and buy one.they are just hanging off the walls........

.. its their right...

No, cods you're wrong.

In America if you have been diagnosed as mentally ill, & treated as mentally ill you are precluded from purchasing a legal firearm. You wouldn't pass the stringent background checks, where you would be in the database as unfit to purchase a firearm.

Now, does it mean a mentally ill person can't by an illegal firearm. Well cods, just like here, anyone can buy just about anything they want anywhere, as long as they have the desire & determination to do so, & the cash to back that up.

So, in short, a mentally ill person can purchase an illegal firearm....it's against the law, but the law is only as good as the force you employ to back it up....to enforce it.

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