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Reply #60 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:38am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 6:56am:
cods wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 6:53am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 9:30pm:
Panther - who cares what gun it was?

It's what happened that matters.

forgiven


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the point is he was able to fire repeatedly not giving anyone a chance.....and these guns are available to anyone who can afford them...

just walk out of a mental hospital and walk in and buy one.they are just hanging off the walls........

.. its their right...


makes sense to some.




That's correct Cods - so the Yanks do have crazy gun laws.
We can't buy such weapons here.



Bobby, please don't tell me you are so naive to believe we don't have a "black market" here, & please don't tell me you're so naive to say that we don't have those types of weapons here.

Sorry, the government has been forced to admit they don't know how many illegal weapons exist within our borders, or what kind of weapons there are, so please....this Camelot approach you take.....that we are free from evil here..... doesn't wash in the real world.....unfortunately, you are sadly mistaken. Those weapons may be more difficult to procure yes, but not impossible by a long shot if one is so disposed....excuse the pun.

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Reply #61 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 3:17pm
 
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I found a pic of you Panther
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Reply #62 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 3:47pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 3:17pm:


And I found one of you just after you digested a Ute full of mushrooms:

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Reply #63 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 3:49pm
 
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 3:17pm:


And I found one of you just after you digested a VW Ute full of mushrooms:

https://i.imgsafe.org/38edfb6ddc.jpg



True I'm hung like a horse.
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Reply #64 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:32pm
 
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:38am:
Bobby, please don't tell me you are so naive to believe we don't have a "black market" here, & please don't tell me you're so naive to say that we don't have those types of weapons here.

Sorry, the government has been forced to admit they don't know how many illegal weapons exist within our borders, or what kind of weapons there are, so please....this Camelot approach you take.....that we are free from evil here..... doesn't wash in the real world.....unfortunately, you are sadly mistaken. Those weapons may be more difficult to procure yes, but not impossible by a long shot if one is so disposed....excuse the pun.




Get real - it's super easy to get hold of military weapons in the USA.
It's not here.

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Reply #65 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 8:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:32pm:
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:38am:
Bobby, please don't tell me you are so naive to believe we don't have a "black market" here, & please don't tell me you're so naive to say that we don't have those types of weapons here.

Sorry, the government has been forced to admit they don't know how many illegal weapons exist within our borders, or what kind of weapons there are, so please....this Camelot approach you take.....that we are free from evil here..... doesn't wash in the real world.....unfortunately, you are sadly mistaken. Those weapons may be more difficult to procure yes, but not impossible by a long shot if one is so disposed....excuse the pun.




Get real - it's super easy to get hold of military weapons in the USA.
It's not here.



So, it's not super easy here.....as you say it is in the US......but, are you saying it's impossible?.....if not, how can you assess a degree of probability when the number & kind of illegal weapons here isn't actually known?

You can't say something is impossible, or not easy, to get a hold of especially if you don't know if it exists here or not, now can you.

Right or wrong.....true or false.....being these weapons exist all over the world, it would be safe to assume they probably exist here ....somewhere.... too, especially if the state of our weapons database is in disarray.

I'm not trying to make you look foolish, but you need to pay little more attention to the laws of possibility, & probability before making black & white assumptions.


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Reply #66 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:02pm
 
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 8:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:32pm:
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:38am:
Bobby, please don't tell me you are so naive to believe we don't have a "black market" here, & please don't tell me you're so naive to say that we don't have those types of weapons here.

Sorry, the government has been forced to admit they don't know how many illegal weapons exist within our borders, or what kind of weapons there are, so please....this Camelot approach you take.....that we are free from evil here..... doesn't wash in the real world.....unfortunately, you are sadly mistaken. Those weapons may be more difficult to procure yes, but not impossible by a long shot if one is so disposed....excuse the pun.




Get real - it's super easy to get hold of military weapons in the USA.
It's not here.



So, it's not super easy here.....as you say it is in the US......but, are you saying it's impossible?.....if not, how can you assess a degree of probability when the number & kind of illegal weapons here isn't actually known?

You can't say something is impossible, or not easy, to get a hold of especially if you don't know if it exists here or not, now can you.

Right or wrong.....true or false.....being these weapons exist all over the world, it would be safe to assume they probably exist here ....somewhere.... too, especially if the state of our weapons database is in disarray.

I'm not trying to make you look foolish, but you need to pay little more attention to the laws of possibility, & probability before making black & white assumptions.





Come on - you can't be serious?

maybe you're a troll?
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Reply #67 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:32pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:02pm:
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 8:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:32pm:
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:38am:
Bobby, please don't tell me you are so naive to believe we don't have a "black market" here, & please don't tell me you're so naive to say that we don't have those types of weapons here.

Sorry, the government has been forced to admit they don't know how many illegal weapons exist within our borders, or what kind of weapons there are, so please....this Camelot approach you take.....that we are free from evil here..... doesn't wash in the real world.....unfortunately, you are sadly mistaken. Those weapons may be more difficult to procure yes, but not impossible by a long shot if one is so disposed....excuse the pun.




Get real - it's super easy to get hold of military weapons in the USA.
It's not here.



So, it's not super easy here.....as you say it is in the US......but, are you saying it's impossible?.....if not, how can you assess a degree of probability when the number & kind of illegal weapons here isn't actually known?

You can't say something is impossible, or not easy, to get a hold of especially if you don't know if it exists here or not, now can you.

Right or wrong.....true or false.....being these weapons exist all over the world, it would be safe to assume they probably exist here ....somewhere.... too, especially if the state of our weapons database is in disarray.

I'm not trying to make you look foolish, but you need to pay little more attention to the laws of possibility, & probability before making black & white assumptions.





Come on - you can't be serious?

maybe you're a troll?


Ok.....am I missing something....what do you mean? I disagree with that you've been taught, so I'm a threat....so it's time for names?

Is that what you mean, because I am very serious about what I've said....I've seen what's out there, & Bobby.....it's dangerous....more dangerous than you say, & obviously have come to know if you honestly believe it. (a guess on my part).

BTW.....I know what a Troll is on the internet....in forums.....but somehow I think you might have another meaning for the word. No?



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Reply #68 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:33pm
 




if anyone knows how to put up this video file it would be much appreciated

https://www.facebook.com/METalInternational/videos/10151578316252446/
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Reply #69 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:41pm
 
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

Ok.....am I missing something....what do you mean? I disagree with that you've been taught, so I'm a threat....so it's time for names?

Is that what you mean, because I am very serious about what I've said....I've seen what's out there, & Bobby.....it's dangerous....more dangerous than you say, & obviously have come to know if you honestly believe it. (a guess on my part).

BTW.....I know what a Troll is on the internet....in forums.....but somehow I think you might have another meaning for the word. No?







The mass murderer in Orlando was able to buy a military type
weapon from a local gun shop.
We can't do that here.

It's as simple as that.
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Reply #70 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 9:07am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

Ok.....am I missing something....what do you mean? I disagree with that you've been taught, so I'm a threat....so it's time for names?

Is that what you mean, because I am very serious about what I've said....I've seen what's out there, & Bobby.....it's dangerous....more dangerous than you say, & obviously have come to know if you honestly believe it. (a guess on my part).

BTW.....I know what a Troll is on the internet....in forums.....but somehow I think you might have another meaning for the word. No?







The mass murderer in Orlando was able to buy a military type
weapon
from a local gun shop.
We can't do that here.

It's as simple as that.


So, if you really wanted one......where there's a will there's a way (link).



Meanwhile, Camelot crumbles......


Army's assault rifles sold to bikie gangs



Source: The Australian    Quote:
STAFF at one of the Australian Defence Force's largest weapon storage facilities have for years allegedly been involved in stealing and rebirthing military issue firearms and selling them to outlaw motorcycle gangs.

The claims are made in secret police intelligence documents that have been leaked to The Australian.

Despite the seriousness of the allegations, no one has been identified or charged over the allegations.

The documents show that Defence officials knew almost a decade ago that the National Storage Distribution Centre, at Moorebank, in Sydney's southwest, had become a target for
numerous thefts of machine guns and automatic assault rifles.


The confidential report says that "staff in the armoury" at the Moorebank centre were involved in the theft and rebirthing of military firearms and some staff "were in collusion with outlaw motorcycle gangs".

"The Army Intelligence and Security Unit has indicated that problems have been experienced in weapon storage units ... and between 1980 and March 1994 there were 104 separate incidents of theft of firearms," the report says.

Although Australian Federal Police were called in to investigate, not only has no one been charged, but none of the weapons have been recovered.

The revelations about the extent of the thefts and the failure to recover the weapons comes as NSW and federal police continue their hunt for six stolen rocket launchers which, with the suspected help of a bikie group, allegedly ended up in the hands of a criminal gang and an accused terror suspect, Mohammad Elomar.

The Australian has also discovered that NSW police had seized another rocket launcher from a gang in Sydney's southwest in 2001. Members of the strikeforce hunting for the missing weapons are now going back over police files to determine whether that rocket launcher is linked to the others.

A Defence spokeswoman said that investigations in 1999 into the weapon thefts had not "concluded that any Steyr (assault rifles) ... were lost, stolen or missing".

However, there was criticism about Defence's poor practices and procedures in relation to storage, distribution and disposal of weapons......continued(link)



...
Those weapons, & many more like them, are out there, & surely available on the "Black Market".   ...

I certainly hope one of them don't show up at a crime scene in say Sydney, like they did in Orlando, but if they did, it would probably be...........As devastating as shootin' ducks in a pond!
 

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Reply #71 - Jun 19th, 2016 at 9:17am
 
Good on Senator Christopher S. Murphy for trying to do something about it. 15hrs of straight talking isn't an easy feat. Considering he had to go through that just to allow voting on such MINOR changes shows just how broken the US system is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/us/politics/senate-filibuster-gun-control.html...


and in the meantime, during his 15 hr speech, another 48 people were shot across the USA

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/16/11952166/filibuster-gun-control-shootings



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Reply #72 - Jun 19th, 2016 at 10:27am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 9:17am:
Good on Senator Christopher S. Murphy for trying to do something about it. 15hrs of straight talking isn't an easy feat. Considering he had to go through that just to allow voting on such MINOR changes shows just how broken the US system is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/us/politics/senate-filibuster-gun-control.html...


and in the meantime, during his 15 hr speech, another 48 people were shot across the USA

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/16/11952166/filibuster-gun-control-shootings



And over 2,000 died in auto accidents in the same time period......So, whats your point?
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Reply #73 - Jun 19th, 2016 at 10:32am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 19th, 2016 at 9:17am:
and in the meantime, during his 15 hr speech, another 48 people were shot across the USA

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/16/11952166/filibuster-gun-control-shootings



The states with the toughest gun laws had the most shootings, is that supposed to be an example of how gun laws work?

Chicago has tough gun laws to go with their high crime rates, I guess black lives only matter when white people are shooting them.
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Blacks have a 6-7 times higher homicide rate than white man, Senator Allen West said blacks kill more blacks every six months than what the KKK could do in 83 years.


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Reply #74 - Jun 19th, 2016 at 10:36am
 
Panther wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 9:07am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
Panther wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:32pm:

Ok.....am I missing something....what do you mean? I disagree with that you've been taught, so I'm a threat....so it's time for names?

Is that what you mean, because I am very serious about what I've said....I've seen what's out there, & Bobby.....it's dangerous....more dangerous than you say, & obviously have come to know if you honestly believe it. (a guess on my part).

BTW.....I know what a Troll is on the internet....in forums.....but somehow I think you might have another meaning for the word. No?







The mass murderer in Orlando was able to buy a military type
weapon
from a local gun shop.
We can't do that here.

It's as simple as that.


So, if you really wanted one......where there's a will there's a way (link).



Meanwhile, Camelot crumbles......


Army's assault rifles sold to bikie gangs



Source: The Australian    Quote:
STAFF at one of the Australian Defence Force's largest weapon storage facilities have for years allegedly been involved in stealing and rebirthing military issue firearms and selling them to outlaw motorcycle gangs.

The claims are made in secret police intelligence documents that have been leaked to The Australian.

Despite the seriousness of the allegations, no one has been identified or charged over the allegations.

The documents show that Defence officials knew almost a decade ago that the National Storage Distribution Centre, at Moorebank, in Sydney's southwest, had become a target for
numerous thefts of machine guns and automatic assault rifles.


The confidential report says that "staff in the armoury" at the Moorebank centre were involved in the theft and rebirthing of military firearms and some staff "were in collusion with outlaw motorcycle gangs".

"The Army Intelligence and Security Unit has indicated that problems have been experienced in weapon storage units ... and between 1980 and March 1994 there were 104 separate incidents of theft of firearms," the report says.

Although Australian Federal Police were called in to investigate, not only has no one been charged, but none of the weapons have been recovered.

The revelations about the extent of the thefts and the failure to recover the weapons comes as NSW and federal police continue their hunt for six stolen rocket launchers which, with the suspected help of a bikie group, allegedly ended up in the hands of a criminal gang and an accused terror suspect, Mohammad Elomar.

The Australian has also discovered that NSW police had seized another rocket launcher from a gang in Sydney's southwest in 2001. Members of the strikeforce hunting for the missing weapons are now going back over police files to determine whether that rocket launcher is linked to the others.

A Defence spokeswoman said that investigations in 1999 into the weapon thefts had not "concluded that any Steyr (assault rifles) ... were lost, stolen or missing".

However, there was criticism about Defence's poor practices and procedures in relation to storage, distribution and disposal of weapons......continued(link)



https://i.imgsafe.org/2019839.gif
Those weapons, & many more like them, are out there, & surely available on the "Black Market".   https://i.imgsafe.org/2019839.gif

I certainly hope one of them don't show up at a crime scene in say Sydney, like they did in Orlando, but if they did, it would probably be...........As devastating as shootin' ducks in a pond!
 




Yet the bikie gangs don't seem to use those weapons.

We're worried about insane nutcases from lunatic asylums getting militarily weapons.
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