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Reply #135 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:51am
 
Only by Muslims.
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Reply #136 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:53am
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:16am:
This may as well be an election advert for Donald Trump.


It makes his message stronger.
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Reply #137 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:55am
 
GordyL wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:49am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:37am:
Don't  mention Islam. I might have a couple of times but i think i got away with it.


Are you another apologist?

"He was a violent, homophobic, prejudiced, ISIS supporter, known to the police."

Do you know what the "I" stands for in "ISIS"?


AKA, a Muslim.


Correct.

And a violent, prejudiced, ISIS supporting homophobe, known to the police.

So, why are you covering for him?
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Reply #138 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:58am
 
It doesnt matter what silly lefties in australia think.

Americans will overwhelmingly see this as a muslim issue.
Trump said that he wanted to stop muslim immigration because he didnt think you can really know who you are importing.

he was criticised , ad infinitum, for this.

Coupled with the saudi couple who shot up santa barbara recently, this is a major win for Trumps stand on the issue .
Whether he is right or not ,makes no difference.

Most voters will see his position as being vindicated.
And "most voters" is what politics is all about.
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Reply #139 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:02am
 
GordyL wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:49am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:41am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:37am:
Don't  mention Islam. I might have a couple of times but i think i got away with it.


Are you another apologist?

"He was a violent, homophobic, prejudiced, ISIS supporter, known to the police."

Do you know what the "I" stands for in "ISIS"?


AKA, a Muslim.



24 reasons ISIS are wrong: Muslim scholars blast Islamic State

https://www.rt.com/news/190468-muslim-scholars-islamic-state/
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Reply #140 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:04am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:51am:
Only by Muslims.



Do the Ku Klux Klan represent all Christians
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Reply #141 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:09am
 
____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:47am:
cods wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:27am:
oh blimey.  50 people dead gawd knows how many more will die.. and out comes the personal abuse mob..

Angry Angry Angry Angry


St Ives Pistol Club gets 1.25ha of national park from NSW State Government

A Baird government decision to hand over a parcel of national park land to the St Ives Pistol Club is being hailed as “a great win for target shooters”.



What do you think of Liberals wheeling dealing on gun laws with shooing group. Do you think this will lead to mass shootings?




ah the good old Licence to Kill mob...

I dont have a problem with it...as long as their targets arent breathing..

not everyone with a gun wished to kill something greeny?>..and yes I do see a need for a gun.....if ever I was to come face to face with a terrorist I would prefer to have a gun handy...not that I have even ever held one....

guns are legal greeny....killing people isnt....

if you think I approve of killing animals[for sport] you are wrong again..but dont let that cloud your thinking....

I do not see any connection between shooting for sport.... and walking into a night club and shooting 50 people plus.....


perhaps you can explain.
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Reply #142 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:19am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:58am:
It doesnt matter what silly lefties in australia think.

Americans will overwhelmingly see this as a muslim issue.
Trump said that he wanted to stop muslim immigration because he didnt think you can really know who you are importing.

he was criticised , ad infinitum, for this.

Coupled with the saudi couple who shot up santa barbara recently, this is a major win for Trumps stand on the issue .
Whether he is right or not ,makes no difference.

Most voters will see his position as being vindicated.
And "most voters" is what politics is all about.



Local Islamic Foundation Condemns Orlando Attack

ST. LOUIS (KMOX)-The Islamic Foundation of Greater St. Louis is condemning the killings at an LGBT club in Orlando and urging the media, politicians and the community not to imply collective guilt to Muslims.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/06/12/local-islamic-foundation-condemns-orlando...
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Reply #143 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:35am
 
It must be terribly difficult for the social justice warriors to reconcile one of their beloved victim groups (Muslims) murdering another of their beloved victim groups (homosexuals). No doubt we will see the SJW denial that this atrocity was motivated by Islam in spite of all the evidence.
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Reply #144 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:40am
 
Marla wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:21am:
innocentbystander. wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 1:16am:
This may as well be an election advert for Donald Trump.



Do you ever shut the bugger up?




I made this comment in a neutral context, it is a comment anyone can safely make, You, Greens, Mothballs, even Hillary can safely make this comment today, whether you hate Trump or not, it does not matter, the comment is 100% factual no matter who makes it. 

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Reply #145 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:41am
 
Belgarion wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:35am:
It must be terribly difficult for the social justice warriors to reconcile one of their beloved victim groups (Muslims) murdering another of their beloved victim groups (homosexuals). No doubt we will see the SJW denial that this atrocity was motivated by Islam in spite of all the evidence.


Looks like we have another apologist for homophobic murderers.

Dear o dear.
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Reply #146 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54am
 
Belgarion wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:35am:
It must be terribly difficult for the social justice warriors to reconcile one of their beloved victim groups (Muslims) murdering another of their beloved victim groups (homosexuals). No doubt we will see the SJW denial that this atrocity was motivated by Islam in spite of all the evidence.


Yes, they are too heavily invested in their bogus ideology to come clean now, but their empty rhetoric is appearing more and more desperate.

We're starting to see just how small a fringe they are - the destruction of the SJW narrative is accelerating, and approaching critical mass.
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Reply #147 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:56am
 
____ wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:19am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 8:58am:
It doesnt matter what silly lefties in australia think.

Americans will overwhelmingly see this as a muslim issue........



Local Islamic Foundation Condemns Orlando Attack

ST. LOUIS (KMOX)-The Islamic Foundation of Greater St. Louis is condemning the killings at an LGBT club in Orlando and urging the media, politicians and the community not to imply collective guilt to Muslims.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2016/06/12/local-islamic-foundation-condemns-orlando...



What does Islamic Scripture teach:


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Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim should appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel that way..

Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.  (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals - see Ibn Kathir (vol 4, p 49)

Quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.

Quran (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.

Hadith and Sira

Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy."

Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)."

Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered.

From Islamic Law:

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...

"One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie."   
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So, do you believe the token condemnations from the so called 'Islamic Community' ?


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Reply #148 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:05am
 
... wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:54am:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:35am:
It must be terribly difficult for the social justice warriors to reconcile one of their beloved victim groups (Muslims) murdering another of their beloved victim groups (homosexuals). No doubt we will see the SJW denial that this atrocity was motivated by Islam in spite of all the evidence.


Yes, they are too heavily invested in their bogus ideology to come clean now, but their empty rhetoric is appearing more and more desperate.

We're starting to see just how small a fringe they are - the destruction of the SJW narrative is accelerating, and approaching critical mass.



How is it you lot keep missing the point?

It's not hard.

It's gobsmacking.
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Reply #149 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:08am
 
____ wrote on Jun 12th, 2016 at 8:40pm:
FLORIDA: WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH CULT MEMBER REPORTEDLY GUNMEN IN GAY BAR SHOOTING, 25 SHOT, HOLDING PEOPLE HOSTAGE……

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Keep on digging Lee




When you decide to get things wrong you don't fkk around do you?  Grin Grin Grin Grin


Looks like your religion of peace does not extend to the pillow biters.


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