____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 8:21pm:



Any proof of this? Or is it supposition?

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 8:33pm:


So supposition then. Exactly as I suspected.

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 8:40pm:



So "reportedly". There' no likely error there.

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 9:35pm:
I hope you are right that it's a skinhead. You'll never live it down if you are wrong.

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 9:41pm:
I'm just trying to work out how you know who did it when even the media don't know yet.

It'll be a tinted Muslim for sure, you can bet on it.  There are no extreme wankers within the Christian faith at all.

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 9:46pm:
It could be a skinhead, Christian nutter, muslim. WE DON'T KNOW YET!!

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:



Nah, everything I've ever read here demands that this bloke is a tinted Muslim terrorist extremist.  Only those arsehoes get up to this sort or killing.  "Say twelve 'Hail Marys' and go to bed for your sins."

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 9:47pm:


Must be.  Otherwise the apologists would be deflecting and blathering about the crusades and Hindus.

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 9:51pm:
Well as I've heard the FBI are involved. If it was a single person on a shoot em up they wouldn't be involved. There is a group involved. Because they're gay I'm thinking Christian. But because it's a club it is similar to Paris. I'm leaning towards Christian but I could be wrong. We'll soon see.

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 9:53pm:
They are hoping it isn't a Muslim . They don't like how we pick on them.

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 9:53pm:


Ummm Greens. You probably should stop now.

"In a press conference on Sunday morning, an FBI spokesman said investigators believed the attacker may have had extremist beliefs, and would consider possible links to Isis, but cautioned they were pursuing multiple leads."

How about we wait until more info is released. Yes?

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 9:49pm:



I'm not sticking my head in the sand or jumping to conclusions.

If I were trying to muddy the waters I may post something like -

"Gods work being done for him"

Even though I am not overly religious.

I could also post something like

"Alluhah Akbar"

to point police in the other direction. Sneaky eh.

The Mail is reporting the perpetrator as an Islamic extremist.

Uh-oh.

ian wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:05pm:


Seems they think it's islamic because he had explosives.

I hope you are right Greens, otherwise it might look like you were cynically exploiting the plight of gay people to further your racist anti-Islam agenda.

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:13pm:



I'm a leftie

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:06pm:



There fixed,

The threat title should be changed to reflect the fact that US authorities have confirmed this is an islamic terrorist attack.

BBC is saying that the FBI believe it is a radical islamic attack.

http://www.bbc.com/news/36510272

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:13pm:


but the perpetrator AND the victims are both darlings of the left, who to blame?

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:
And ?

Webtoad wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:21pm:



Since when are violent extremists the "darlings of the left"?

Webtoad wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:21pm:


Straight white Christian men. They made the guns, their bigotry pushed the perpetrator until he had a breakdown, and their bigotry also forced the homos to have gay pubs making them an easy target. Tomorrow the news will have a bum fcker and a camel fcker holding hands calling for an end to the bigotry of straight white Christian men. Lefty problem solved.

ian wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:23pm:


Nah....he'll be  Muzzie terrorist for sure.  The Twittersphere is onto him.

Link.

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:19pm:



What were we debating? I merely offered a different opinion.

lee wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:34pm:




By manipulating someone else's post.
How childish of you.

This is the lefties tonight.
Please don't be a muslim please don't be a muslim please be a Christian please be a Christian we haven't had a Christian mass killer for ages please be.
Waaaaah.....it's a muslim waaaah

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:11pm:


Hmmmm. We'll have to wait and see.

Dustwun wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:46pm:



What was being done was reporting of current news.
As of yet, it is looking like extremist hard right religionists where behind this terror attack.

lee wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:46pm:


Manipulate

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 10:54pm:



And the Christians supported the Nazis executing gays in the death camps.
After the war, the christians were happy for the Gays to continue their jail sentences, the ones still alive.
In Africa, we have Christians wanting gays killed.



Seems it's not the type of religion, it's just hard right religion in general, that's the problem. 

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:03pm:



Bingo.

ian wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:11pm:



Who said that?

Link please.

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:18pm:
Nothing to do with Islam. its other religions to blame, ask Mothra.

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:24pm:

No, its Muslims.

ian wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:23pm:



Now im going to ask you for another link, despite you repeatedly failing to do so for previous attempts.

Ian, are you trying to turn me into a nag?

I'd say "clever" ... but it isn't really.

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:24pm:


I've had discussions where people follow this line and say well yeah, Islam has ISIS but Christianity has Westbro. 

For starters,  how many people have Westbro beheaded?  How many sex saves have they burned alive? one more thing. How many members of Westbro are there?  2000, 3000?
Lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:15pm:


Bloody hell...

mothra wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:10pm:


Straight away Islam has been removed from the issue. It's not Islam, it's right wing that's the problem.

What makes it even more ridiculous is that I mockingly joked about this less than a page ago and you already proved it right.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:36pm:


They're nutters and I don't agree with a thing they believe but they're pacifists

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:28pm:



Correction 'Most' Hard Right.

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:44pm:


You are gay.
You love Muslims.
Muslims kill gays.
You can't understand why they don't love you back so hate Christians instead.

Welcome to the world you helped create. It's only going to get worse.

Greens sounds like a Scientologist.

ian wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:34pm:




It's to do with a loony.

What makes someone a loony?

I don't think it's Islam... most of those aren't loonies.

What do you think it is,  Ian?

lee wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:54pm:



sounds like.

I will not say what you sound like. Could get me kicked off the board.

To be fair to luvvies, it might be that the idiot was not inspired by religion.  He might just be a mass killer who is also a cultist. 

Islam got nuffin to do wiv nuffin. 

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:25am:



Have you e er stopped to consider that you don't understand the arguments being put to you?

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 12:52am:



Link?

This may as well be an election advert for Donald Trump.

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 1:19am:



Come on. Think.

Setanta wrote on Jun 12^th, 2016 at 11:56pm:


No, no they don't. They follow what they think is the letter of the law in the Bible.

Marla wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 6:21am:


america would seem to be stuck in lower consciousness.
a country addicted to big macs, obesity and reality tv is stuck in a durrrr state.
the people in a durrrr state like simple truths.
they dont have the mental capacity to try to understand a nuanced truth.
when they hear a muslim from afghanistan pledging allegiance to ISIS has done this , that is the simple truth they will go with.
The "mob" will get out the pitchforks and rally behind the cause and whilst it may not make luvvies vote for trump it will motivate a lot of Durrrr state fatties to "get out to vote" and you are living in a fantasy world if you dont think this is going to get trump a lot of votes.

this is, of course, exactly what ISIS want.
they thrive on hatred and it feeds their ego (remember ego is fed by anything that distinguishes between us and them).

how would it go if they shot the queen on her 90th birthday.
Do you think the "mob" would listen to the likes of mothra , gweg and marla.
You dont understand much about the Durrrr state (mainly because you live in the leftard durrr state and cannot understand a nuanced truth yourself )

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 6:53am:

Marla wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 6:21am:


Get over yourself.

Why should he?

He's absolutely right.

It's all over the freaking media how this massacre has benefited Trump and will impact the election outcome over there.

issuevoter wrote on Jun 13^th, 2016 at 6:56am:



instead he will be honored with 70 virgins...

its all good issue   stop fretting.

He'll be described as a quiet normal muslim guy, just like  Greggys mythical muslim neighbours.