wait, aren't guns in America supposed to be a problem?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-16/fbi-us-homicide-rate-51-year-low

The US homicide rate in 2014, the most recent year available, was 4.5 per 100,000. The 2014 total follows a long downward trend and is the lowest homicide rate recorded since 1963 when the rate was 4.6 per 100,000. To find a lower homicide rate, we must travel back to 1957 when the total homicide rate hit 4.0 per 100,000.

Homicide rates were considerably higher in the United States during the 1970s, 80s, and 90s, but over the past 25 years, have fallen nearly continuously

cods, if you simply read the linked post your questions will be answered.

early in the day for you to be drunk isn't it cods?

AiA wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 2:41am:


Yes, they're a huge problem.

Who told you they weren't?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 10:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 12:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 12:58pm:

FBI: US Homicide Rate At 51-Year Low

When you consider that one person just shot 50 people if this is a fact it is a worry, nothing to be proud of here I am afraid.

Or did they get the numbers counted before the latest atrocity ? You would not want to be counting all the shootings now would we.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:


Judging by his posts, I'd say he's an all-round nut.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 4:50pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 5:11pm:




don't worry -

Greggy's not gunna report ya.

I can believe it. But that's still 4 times higher the rate of murders compared to Australia's.

Dnarever wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 9:58pm:


Fifty more people killed in the United States is not going to bump up very much the murders per 100,000 rate. It definitely would in Australia.

Obviously, the F,B.I. has not been to Chicago recently.

Death by gun in good ol' capitalist Yankee America is now on the level as many people as car crashes. Death by gun in good ol' capitalist Yankee America is exponentially greater than in all other advanced industrialized countries.

In good ol' capitalist Yankee America the death rate from gun homicides is about 31 per million people per year.

In capitalist Deutschland, that figure is two per million; in capitalist Limeyland, only one and in capitalist Sushiland the likelihood of dying from a gunshot wound is roughly the same as any fat capitalist American's chance of being killed by lightning:
one in 10 million.

Welcome to the New World Order.

AiA wrote on Jun 19^th, 2016 at 4:12am:



Quote:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 19^th, 2016 at 10:32am:


An inconvenient truth

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 19^th, 2016 at 10:43am:


Now that's an inconvenient truth!

And some people here can't understand why Americans are arming themselves.

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 19^th, 2016 at 11:14am:


You familiar with the American police term "self-cleaning oven?" Black on black homicide.

Dnarever wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 9:58pm:

Who's "they"? The perpetrator was an admitted Islamic terrorist, and the son of a Taliban supporter from Afghanistan.

Not exactly your textbook "home-grown terrorism," despite where he happened to exit the womb.

Why do you think I should include it?

why are gun accidents and suicides ignored in this debate? Gun owners in  the US are much more likely to be killed by their own firearm than anyone elses. I beleive this holds true for Australia also.

cods wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 11:05am:


Here is some homicide data from the FBI
- Rifles which include those scary semi auto AR15's around 300-320 homicides per year
-Knives or cutting instruments about 1,700-1,800 homicides
per year
-Bats/clubs/hammers 500-600 homicides per year
-Fists and feet around 700-800 homicides per year

If we look at the numbers without letting irrational fears get in the way rifles which include those scary ones all the hoplophobes want banned cause the least deaths of all firearm types, you are probably far more likely to be bashed-stabbed to death than shot with a scary AR15.
fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/ex...

It's amusing how those with irrational fears want to ban the type of gun the FBI says causes the least deaths while ignoring the type that causes the most deaths.

The Pulse attack was Islamic terror that will continue while Islam exists, did you know the female muslim offender in the San Bernadino terror attack was the first female mass shooter in the USA?

cods wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 11:05am:

Blaming the gun for the Pulse massacre is like blaming the Boston Marathon bombings on the easy availability of pressure cookers.

Islamic terrorism uses a variety of tools to achieve its bloody toll. The San Bernardino jihadists also had a stockpile of pipe bombs that they didn't get the chance to use.

But I'm sure Syed Farook and his lovely bride refrained from using them because gosh, pipe bombs are against the law in the United States!

cods wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 11:05am:


Homicide is simply the killing of another person, regardless of reason. Murder is the unlawful killing of someone.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 8:34am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 1:05pm:


Just like the Lindt siege he confessed while doing the crime.

Why do Islamic apologists ignore the confessions from Islamic terrorists?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 1:57pm:

Quote:


What better place to lay a false trail is there.

Aussie wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 4:29pm:

51 year lows & still going down.......
All with more guns per capita than any time in American history!

Why are homicide rates at a 51-year low? It isn't because of gun control. Sorry liberals. Why has all violent crime in large US cities been trending downward for quite a while now? It isn't because government has gotten "tough on crime." Nor is it because Americans are protecting themselves with personal firearms. Sorry conservatives. Could there be other, non-political, reasons?

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 6:38am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 3:08pm: