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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #300 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:50pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:45pm:

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What you think Aussie? Last time I posted this you tried to argue it was deceptive to quote him.

Your construct is deceptive and does misrepresent what he has been saying. It is only you who is pushing the Jewish stuff. Gandalf has done to great lengths to tell you faith is a mere sideshow to the politics of this alleged event.

What do you think about the mindless collective bit Aussie?

The fact that they were Jewish was used by Muhammed to openly antagonise them and threaten them with the same fate as the other two tribes he had gotten rid of (who also just happened to be Jewish). It was also explicitly cited as a justification for killing them all.

That they were Jewish is the only true statement made by Gandalf about them.

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #301 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:50pm

freediver wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 8:59pm:

We've just about completed the loop, freediver.

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Gandalf has accused them of being guilty of belonging to a mindless collective of treacherous Jews.

Where did he say that?

What you think Aussie? Last time I posted this you tried to argue it was deceptive to quote him.

freediver wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 10:27am:

freediver wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 8:26am:

If you think these 800 people acted as some kind of mindless collective

Thats exactly what they were.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 7:38pm:

Also the treachery of the jews had nothing to do with them refusing to help the muslims.
Simple facts FD.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:

As I said, there was no real concept of individuality - your personality was literally defined by which tribe you belonged to. And the decisions that govern the tribe are very much decisions that are represented by all the individuals who make up the tribe. Thus there really is no question of collective guilt - no matter how abhorrent we find the term today.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 3:48pm:

Muhammad had been burnt before by granting another traitorous tribe free passage to leave the city - upon which they immediately started plotting against Medina and instigating hostilities.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

The leaders conspired - yes.

The rest of them had the opportunity to disown their treachery. They declined. So tough titties- off with their heads.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 28^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

What do you think the Banu Qurayza would have done to the muslims if their planned back-stabbing assault on Medina had succeeded?

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 6^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Like I keep saying, it is reasonable to accuse them of collective guilt, since at any time any individual had the opportunity to disassociate themselves from the decisions made on behalf of the tribe.

Strange. The questions G is quoting from here are absent.

I wonder where they went.

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #302 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:03pm

freediver wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:45pm:

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What you think Aussie? Last time I posted this you tried to argue it was deceptive to quote him.

Your construct is deceptive and does misrepresent what he has been saying. It is only you who is pushing the Jewish stuff. Gandalf has done to great lengths to tell you faith is a mere sideshow to the politics of this alleged event.

What do you think about the mindless collective bit Aussie?

The fact that they were Jewish was used by Muhammed to openly antagonise them and threaten them with the same fate as the other two tribes he had gotten rid of (who also just happened to be Jewish). It was also explicitly cited as a justification for killing them all.

That they were Jewish is the only true statement made by Gandalf about them.

I disagree. I say that those traitors who were killed after some sort of decision making process were those who chose to remain after Mo gave the lot a chance to get off the field. People who wanted a chance to live, left. Those who remained were very mindfull of their probable collective fate.

I wonder how many ISIS retards were recently slaughtered in Fallujah......after the inhabitants were warned to get out as there was all Hell heading their way? Not that I really give a stuff about any ISIS prick who stayed and was slaughtered.

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94452 Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #303 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:37pm ISIS retards are not a race, Aussie. They’s an.Arab/Negroid subspecies.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38413 Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #304 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:47pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:37pm: ISIS retards are not a race, Aussie. They’s an.Arab/Negroid subspecies. Ah!
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18049 Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #305 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:05pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:37pm: ISIS retards are not a race, Aussie. They’s an.Arab/Negroid subspecies. jake bilardi was a white aussie suicide bomber who blew himself up in Iraq for the Islamic state. You should stick to doing what Pakistanis do best, search the internet for donkey sex
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #306 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:48pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 10:37pm:

ISIS retards are not a race, Aussie. They’s an.Arab/Negroid subspecies.

jake bilardi was a white aussie suicide bomber who blew himself up in Iraq for the Islamic state.

You should stick to doing what Pakistanis do best, search the internet for donkey sex

Thanks, Baron. I think I will.

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #307 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 11:20am

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:50am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 9:11am:

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And even more yadda, yadda, yadda,

Wayyyyyy too long!

I hear that a lot.

Naughty Yadda!

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6381 Australia Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #308 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 12:30pm
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #309 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 12:42pm Quote: Also the treachery of the jews had nothing to do with them refusing to help the muslims. Simple facts FD. Oh I just got why FD quotes this. Sinnister no?
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94452 Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #310 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 1:31pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 24^th, 2016 at 12:42pm: Quote: Also the treachery of the jews had nothing to do with them refusing to help the muslims. Simple facts FD. Oh I just got why FD quotes this. Sinnister no? Why?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #311 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 3:13pm Well they weren't treacherous because they didn't help the muslims, so what am I saying K? Being a 'typical muslim' wacist propagandist - obviously I think its because they're jooooooooooooooooooos
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #312 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 4:55pm

Aussie wrote Reply #289 - Yesterday at 7:25pm
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Nah, no goal post move by me at all. How about you answer my question? Perhaps start with the one about Ten Commandments. How did God deliver them to Moses?

Theology states they were written in stone

Now how about you answer my question to you and Brian: Do you know the difference between law and commandments?

Which started with Brian's false claim :

Reply #280 - Yesterday at 6:43pm
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Do you obey the 10 Commandments, Moses? YES/NO

If you do, why are you obeying "ancient Judaic law"?

This is a deliberately false (as always) claim by our resident supporter of islamic atrocities Brian Ross.

That is why I asked Brian: Do you know the difference between law and commandments?

You then entered the argument with:

How does something as artificial as Law rescind what God sent down to Moses in such a clear fashion.....writ in stone?

Which led me to believe then (and still believe now) that neither of you actually knew the difference between law and commandments.

So here's the question again: what is the difference between law and commandments?

Another quick inquiry: which one has unparalleled precedence over the other? (hint, Brians claim was a lie)

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38413 Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #313 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 5:14pm Quote: Theology states they were written in stone I know what theology and the Bible say. Do you accept that as the truth.......it actually happened?
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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #314 - Jun 24^th, 2016 at 5:38pm Do you mind not jumping the que? Mine first: Another quick inquiry: which one has unparalleled precedence over the other? (hint, Brian's claim was a lie)
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