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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #30 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:28pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

Lisa Brian once argued that it is wrong to criticise other religions or countries, to the point where it is not even possible.

FD, Brian needs to practise what he preaches.

Why?

ALL HE DOES IS CRITICIZE OTHER RELIGIONS AND COUNTRIES.

And that makes him a hypocrite!

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #31 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:36pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

Lisa Brian once argued that it is wrong to criticise other religions or countries, to the point where it is not even possible.

FD, Brian needs to practise what he preaches.

Why?

ALL HE DOES IS CRITICIZE OTHER RELIGIONS AND COUNTRIES.

And that makes him a hypocrite!

I think he meant Islam. He is honest about being incapable of criticising Islam. He did once say that Islam is rightly condemned where it deserves to be condemned, but was incapable of elaborating.

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #32 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:38pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

Lisa Brian once argued that it is wrong to criticise other religions or countries, to the point where it is not even possible.

FD, Brian needs to practise what he preaches.

Why?

ALL HE DOES IS CRITICIZE OTHER RELIGIONS AND COUNTRIES.

And that makes him a hypocrite!

I think he meant Islam. He is honest about being incapable of criticising Islam. He did once say that Islam is rightly condemned where it deserves to be condemned, but was incapable of elaborating.

Is there any aspect of Christianity which you condemn, freediver?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #33 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:41pm Not out of habit. I'm not a big fan of the old testament eye-for-an-eye type stuff.
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #34 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:38pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

Lisa Brian once argued that it is wrong to criticise other religions or countries, to the point where it is not even possible.

FD, Brian needs to practise what he preaches.

Why?

ALL HE DOES IS CRITICIZE OTHER RELIGIONS AND COUNTRIES.

And that makes him a hypocrite!

I think he meant Islam. He is honest about being incapable of criticising Islam. He did once say that Islam is rightly condemned where it deserves to be condemned, but was incapable of elaborating.

Is there any aspect of Christianity which you condemn, freediver?

I enjoy your participation in the threads I start Kiss

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #35 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:47pm But I do like cornflakes, so I guess that evens it out.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38521 Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #36 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:57pm freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:41pm: Not out of habit. I'm not a big fan of the old testament eye-for-an-eye type stuff. How about The Inquisition, The Crusades, The (filthy rich) "Vatican," the entrenched institutionalised child sexual abuse just for starters?
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #37 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:07pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:36pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:20pm:

Lisa Brian once argued that it is wrong to criticise other religions or countries, to the point where it is not even possible.

FD, Brian needs to practise what he preaches.

Why?

ALL HE DOES IS CRITICIZE OTHER RELIGIONS AND COUNTRIES.

And that makes him a hypocrite!

I think he meant Islam. He is honest about being incapable of criticising Islam. He did once say that Islam is rightly condemned where it deserves to be condemned, but was incapable of elaborating.

Says it all really.

Clearly, the wretched man is condemned to a life of ignorance bliss.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44450 Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #38 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:07pm Aussie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:57pm: the entrenched institutionalised child sexual abuse just for starters? You go way too far because you know you have lost the argument and now the plot.
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #39 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:12pm

Frank wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:57pm:

the entrenched institutionalised child sexual abuse just for starters?

You go way too far because you know you have lost the argument and now the plot.

Oh I see. So you disbelieve there is/has been entrenched sexual abuse of children in Institutions operating as Christian benefactors? Really?

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #40 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:12pm

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:41pm:

I'm not a big fan of the old testament eye-for-an-eye type stuff.

The Old Testament was BEFORE Christ.

If you're a Christian then the New Testament governs your faith and core values.

And despite the awful and despicable lies posted above by Brian...WE CHRISTIANS ARE NOTHING LIKE THE MUSLIMS...WE DO NOT ADVOCATE THE MURDER OF GAY PEOPLE.

FURTHERMORE, WE ARE TOLD BY JESUS THE SON OF GOD IN THE NEW TESTAMENT TO LOVE OUR ENEMIES...NOT ENGAGE IN SOME FORM OF PERPETUAL JIHAD AGAINST THEM WHICH INVOLVES MURDERING THEM.

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #41 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:15pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:04pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:42pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:30pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:07pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 1:51pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 1:44pm:

Why do you assume his views are typical of Australian Muslims? Roll Eyes

Why do you 'assume' they aren't?

Don't they all read the same comic, the Koran?

I know they aren't 'cause I know many Muslims.

So, don't all Christians read the same "comic, The Bible"?

Does not The Bible have exhortations to murder Gay people in it? YES/NO Roll Eyes

NO!

Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:9–10. Roll Eyes

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And unlike your bloody mere man Muhammed, our Son of God Jesus has commanded us to love everyone...INCLUDING OUR ENEMIES.

Funny, that isn't the attitude displayed by the most vehement of Christians here, Lisa, now is it? Haven't you bothered to read Christianity according to Moses, FD, Sprintcyclist, etc? It's all about hate. Roll Eyes

Those Bible verses support what I'm saying.

They contradict everything you say.

Are you feeling a tad embarrassed now?

And furthermore, I'm not responsible for how you perceive others who post on OzPol.

I do however know that you know I am fair.

And right now I am talking to you.

You, me.

One on one.

Fair!

Now, show me where the verses which YOU'VE POSTED tell Christians to murder gay people.

Off you go.....

Take it up with the Christians who like to quote them, along with the Old Testament's exhortations against Homosexuality, Lisa. I am not responsible for their interpretation of their holy book. Roll Eyes

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #42 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:18pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:12pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:41pm:

Not out of habit. I'm not a big fan of the old testament eye-for-an-eye type stuff.

The Old Testament was BEFORE Christ.

If you're a Christian then the New Testament governs your faith and core values.

And despite the awful and despicable lies posted above by Brian...WE CHRISTIANS ARE NOTHING LIKE THE MUSLIMS, WE DO NOT ADVOCATE THE MURDER OF GAY PEOPLE.

So, somehow you think you can make a credible distinction between what is ascribed to God (by his devotees of the time) as edicts, and those of his alleged Son, born of a virgin, and married Mother in an adulterous relationship?

The Old Testament is full of tales about how God told his Mob to do this, or that etc etc. Which ones do you disown as not the edicts of God, and merely the claims of charlatans, Lisa Jones?

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #43 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:18pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:11pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 4:57pm:

Typical Brian thought process. Our opinions about Islam must have nothing to do with Islam, but basing them on another religion is fine.

I've not taken much notice of Brian before.

Why? Because Aussie keeps blurring any discussions around this guy with his constant trolling.

The sad thing is....I can see that somewhere along Brian's life, some Muslim has been in his ear.

I have know many Muslims, Lisa. I've served next to one in the Australian Army. We rarely discussed religion. I see nothing wrong with talking to Christians about Christianity and I see nothing wrong with talking to Muslims about Islam. Do you? Why?

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And now the guy is sitting around in cyberspace posting utter anti Christian nonsense.

Mmm, "anti Christian nonsense"? Surely that is a matter of interpretation? Or are we all beholden to you and your pro-Christian beliefs, Lisa? Have you ever looked at the history of Christianity, seriously? Really? Roll Eyes

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #44 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 6:22pm

GordyL wrote on Jun 20^th, 2016 at 5:13pm:

Brian, verse for verse Islam vs Christianity is irrelevant.

My, how quickly you disown your own Holy Book's words, Gordy. Yet, you attack Muslims for their Holy Book's words, even when they aren't obeying them... Roll Eyes

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Christians protest with placards. Muslims just kill them, state sponsored killings of homosexuals.

Really? Yet we have Australia's Homosexual capital, Sydney, the same city which has the highest Muslim population and the two co-exist, side-by-side, without any problems. We don't have mobs of Muslims, patrolling the streets killing homosexuals. Funny that, hey? Seems to me your characterisations of Muslims leaves a great deal to be desired, Gordy. No bigotry there? Yes, some Muslims kill Homosexuals just some Christians kill Homosexuals, yet you appear only willing to condemn Muslims. I wonder why? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

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