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Reply #360 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 5:44pm
 
Not sure what you are asking Aussie.
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Reply #361 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 5:52pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 5:44pm:
Not sure what you are asking Aussie.


This:

Which takes precedence, freediver.  The claimed Word of God writ in stone and given to Moses that way, i.e, the Ten Commandments, or the Law, which is a human construct and changes from jurisdiction to jurisdiction?
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Reply #362 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:08pm
 
Thanks for clarifying Aussie. To answer your question, I am a folder. Make of that what you will.
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Reply #363 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:14pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 6:08pm:
Thanks for clarifying Aussie. To answer your question, I am a folder. Make of that what you will.


No worries, so I will.  Thanks.   I guess the question was way too hard and 'folding' is a sensible way for you to go.
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Reply #364 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 7:59pm
 
We know about the Muslim, effendes, but what of FD?

Does he always tell us what he thinks?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #365 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:57pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:27pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
moses wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Galatians 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


This is the closest you've come to explaining away the OT, Moses. However, your quotes refer to the sight of God, not man. Christians have continued to reference and follow OT principles as law, even if they're not required by God.

Jesus, of course, had this to say.

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"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill," (Matt. 5:17).


Early Christians like Paul had different ideas. The battle for control over the early Jewish-Christian sect was between Paul and Jesus's brother, James. It was fought over one of those OT rites, circumcision. Paul prevailed.

Christianity is not Jesus' religion, but Paul's. The Romans didn't even call it Christianity, but the Cult of Paul.

Well, that explains jihad and sharia then.




It explains some of Muhammed's problem with Christianity. He saw Jesus as a prophet, but Christianity as a misguided religion based on an illusory trinity.

Just goes to show what happens when a semi-literate know-nothings want to channel god.


He comes up with a destructive, shark-like ideology. Islamic theology is the worst kind of semi-comprehended mish mash declared as god's word. Laughable nonsense.






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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #366 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:02pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:27pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
moses wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Galatians 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


This is the closest you've come to explaining away the OT, Moses. However, your quotes refer to the sight of God, not man. Christians have continued to reference and follow OT principles as law, even if they're not required by God.

Jesus, of course, had this to say.

Quote:
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill," (Matt. 5:17).


Early Christians like Paul had different ideas. The battle for control over the early Jewish-Christian sect was between Paul and Jesus's brother, James. It was fought over one of those OT rites, circumcision. Paul prevailed.

Christianity is not Jesus' religion, but Paul's. The Romans didn't even call it Christianity, but the Cult of Paul.

Well, that explains jihad and sharia then.




It explains some of Muhammed's problem with Christianity. He saw Jesus as a prophet, but Christianity as a misguided religion based on an illusory trinity.

Just goes to show what happens when a semi-literate know-nothings want to channel god.


He comes up with a destructive, shark-like ideology. Islamic theology is the worst kind of semi-comprehended mish mash declared as god's word. Laughable nonsense.








Glad you used that expression.  Where can I find "His" word in the Bible?  Old Testament or New?
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #367 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:39pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:02pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:27pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
moses wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Galatians 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


This is the closest you've come to explaining away the OT, Moses. However, your quotes refer to the sight of God, not man. Christians have continued to reference and follow OT principles as law, even if they're not required by God.

Jesus, of course, had this to say.

Quote:
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill," (Matt. 5:17).


Early Christians like Paul had different ideas. The battle for control over the early Jewish-Christian sect was between Paul and Jesus's brother, James. It was fought over one of those OT rites, circumcision. Paul prevailed.

Christianity is not Jesus' religion, but Paul's. The Romans didn't even call it Christianity, but the Cult of Paul.

Well, that explains jihad and sharia then.




It explains some of Muhammed's problem with Christianity. He saw Jesus as a prophet, but Christianity as a misguided religion based on an illusory trinity.

Just goes to show what happens when a semi-literate know-nothings want to channel god.


He comes up with a destructive, shark-like ideology. Islamic theology is the worst kind of semi-comprehended mish mash declared as god's word. Laughable nonsense.








Glad you used that expression.  Where can I find "His" word in the Bible?  Old Testament or New?


A good question. Like FD, I hate to answer questions, but try this:

Seek and ye shall find.

You will find no answers in the writing, Aussie, only in the seeking. And you will never - ever - be able to pass your own experiences onto others.

Pearls unto swine, innit.
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #368 - Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:50pm
 
I've done all the seeking and had no luck in the finding.  Whatever do I do now, Karnal?

Tea leaves?  Will they help?
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #369 - Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:32am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 1:44pm:
Yadda wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 12:51am:
There is no 'trinity'



Really, Yadda?

That is not what all Christian churches maintain....




Brian,

It is as well then, that i am not all Christian churches, otherwise i would be a very confused person, wouldn't i !



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Again, for myself, there is no 'trinity', there is no triune 'godhead'.




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #370 - Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:56am
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:02pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:27pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
moses wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Galatians 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


This is the closest you've come to explaining away the OT, Moses. However, your quotes refer to the sight of God, not man. Christians have continued to reference and follow OT principles as law, even if they're not required by God.

Jesus, of course, had this to say.

Quote:
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill," (Matt. 5:17).


Early Christians like Paul had different ideas. The battle for control over the early Jewish-Christian sect was between Paul and Jesus's brother, James. It was fought over one of those OT rites, circumcision. Paul prevailed.

Christianity is not Jesus' religion, but Paul's. The Romans didn't even call it Christianity, but the Cult of Paul.

Well, that explains jihad and sharia then.




It explains some of Muhammed's problem with Christianity. He saw Jesus as a prophet, but Christianity as a misguided religion based on an illusory trinity.

Just goes to show what happens when a semi-literate know-nothings want to channel god.


He comes up with a destructive, shark-like ideology. Islamic theology is the worst kind of semi-comprehended mish mash declared as god's word. Laughable nonsense.








Glad you used that expression.

Where can I find "His" word in the Bible?




Where is God's Word, in the Bible?

That's easy.

Specifically; Moses and the prophets.

i.e. Moses and the prophets, spoke to their own peers,     .....as they were moved to speak, by the Holy Ghost.

2 Peter 1:21
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


As explained, in this scripture, in the book of Exodus.....

Exodus 4:15
And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do.
16  And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.



If you reject that Moses existed, or, insist that Moses was NOT moved by the spirit of God, to declare and to record certain things,     ....then that is your business.


Proverbs 25:2
It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.





Addendum;

God's Word, in the Bible?

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2  The same was in the beginning with God.
3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4  In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5  And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6  There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7  The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8  He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9  That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10  He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11  He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12  But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13  Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #371 - Jun 27th, 2016 at 1:04am
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:39pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:02pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 8:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 6:27pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:51pm:
moses wrote on Jun 25th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Galatians 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


This is the closest you've come to explaining away the OT, Moses. However, your quotes refer to the sight of God, not man. Christians have continued to reference and follow OT principles as law, even if they're not required by God.

Jesus, of course, had this to say.

Quote:
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill," (Matt. 5:17).


Early Christians like Paul had different ideas. The battle for control over the early Jewish-Christian sect was between Paul and Jesus's brother, James. It was fought over one of those OT rites, circumcision. Paul prevailed.

Christianity is not Jesus' religion, but Paul's. The Romans didn't even call it Christianity, but the Cult of Paul.

Well, that explains jihad and sharia then.




It explains some of Muhammed's problem with Christianity. He saw Jesus as a prophet, but Christianity as a misguided religion based on an illusory trinity.

Just goes to show what happens when a semi-literate know-nothings want to channel god.


He comes up with a destructive, shark-like ideology. Islamic theology is the worst kind of semi-comprehended mish mash declared as god's word. Laughable nonsense.








Glad you used that expression.  Where can I find "His" word in the Bible?  Old Testament or New?


A good question. Like FD, I hate to answer questions, but try this:

Seek and ye shall find.

You will find no answers in the writing, Aussie, only in the seeking.

And you will never - ever - be able to pass your own experiences onto others.


Pearls unto swine, innit.






In your kase K, yes, it is.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #372 - Jun 27th, 2016 at 11:23am
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 9:50pm:
I've done all the seeking and had no luck in the finding.  Whatever do I do now, Karnal?


Keep seeking, Aussie. You've given up too easily.
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Reply #373 - Jun 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jun 27th, 2016 at 12:32am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 1:44pm:
Yadda wrote on Jun 26th, 2016 at 12:51am:
There is no 'trinity'



Really, Yadda?

That is not what all Christian churches maintain....




Brian,

It is as well then, that i am not all Christian churches, otherwise i would be a very confused person, wouldn't i !


Which, according to Moses, makes you a non-Christian, Yadda.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #374 - Jun 27th, 2016 at 4:36pm
 
Why is it when ever these guys tell us what their religion wants, left leaning do gooders rush to us they're wrong.

When ever right wing Christian nutjobs say off colour stuff they point and say see....see ?

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