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Reply #450 - Jul 5th, 2016 at 1:56pm
 
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You and Yadda have outright rejected the Old Testament numerous times, Moses


Here's you big chance Brian, post a copy of my outright rejection of the O.T.

London to a brick you can't.
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Reply #451 - Jul 5th, 2016 at 2:01pm
 
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Cherry picked you mean.


In relation to the law being replaced by faith that is believed to stem back to Abraham whose faith was tested and Y.H.W.H. provided the blood sacrifice (a ram in the thicket), then faith that the blood of a lamb would save the  Israelites' sons when Y.H.W.H. killed the son of Pharaoh, plus other O.T. prophecies which foretold Christ are a strong indication of a doctrine that goes back over 6.000 years.

Hardly cherry picking unless your a dedicated member of the anti Christian brigade.

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Tell me....by way of an act of adultery, did God impregnate the virgin Wife of a carpenter to spawn Jesus?


Adultery?

No.

Joseph married her after the conception.

The doctrine says Jesus was conceived in the womb of a virgin by the Holy Spirit.

Again this goes back to O.T. prophecies

So Christians look back at 6000 years of religious history (Jewish & Christian), which has culminated in the Christian belief today 2016

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Reply #452 - Jul 6th, 2016 at 9:12pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 7:12pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 3rd, 2016 at 8:43pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 3rd, 2016 at 8:38pm:
So you think most Muslims are only Muslims because they don't know what is in the Koran?


I think many Muslims are Muslims because their parents were Muslims, FD.  Just as many Christians are Christians because their parents were Christian.

Today, the overwhelming majority of Australians identify on their Census form as "Christian" yet only about 25% or less identify that they regularly attend Church.

Seems to be quite a discrepancy there, don't you think?    Roll Eyes

How many people in Australia tick Muslim on the census form and also attend mosques regularly, Brian?


I have only firm figures on the former - approximately 2.2% of the population, Frank.   I have unofficial figures on the later of approximate 30-35%.  Only some 5-10% more than those who mark their census "Christian".  Interesting, isn't it?   That all the bigots would claim that all Muslims regularly attend the Mosque yet the figures seem to indicate not that many do...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes





You are lying again.

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Reply #453 - Jul 6th, 2016 at 10:01pm
 
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Joseph married her after the conception.


Got some....any links?  Copy of the Marriage Certificate?
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Reply #454 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 3:39pm
 
They kept it under the mattress but a goat ate it.
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Reply #455 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 3:53pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 3:39pm:
They kept it under the mattress but a goat ate it.


Come on Moses, 'fess up.  You know, just like I do.
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Reply #456 - Jul 8th, 2016 at 10:43am
 
While you're at it, Moses, please tell us how old they were.
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Reply #457 - Jul 8th, 2016 at 2:18pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 3:53pm:
moses wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 3:39pm:
They kept it under the mattress but a goat ate it.


Come on Moses, 'fess up.  You know, just like I do.


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Luke 2:1-7 also confirms the idea that Joseph and Mary, though betrothed, were considered as husband and wife by Jewish customs even though the actual marriage ceremony had not been fully effectuated. So, Joseph and Mary were actually legally married before the birth of Jesus though their marriage was not consummated physically until after His birth.

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Reply #458 - Jul 8th, 2016 at 5:49pm
 
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While you're at it, Moses, please tell us how old they were.


I don't think anyone can say how old Joseph was.

A for Mary, I don't know there is nothing in the N.T. which tells her age.

So it's an unknown factor.

Some people cite Jewish tradition from that era and give her age as between 12 and 14.

However this is unproved conjecture, based on the tradition of the Israelites at that time, nevertheless speculation is not the undeniable truth.

So for me she could have between 12 - 14, or there is an equal chance that she was older. Who knows?

However what I can say with absolute certainty is that the cultures / societies of today (the 21st century) which have their roots in the Judaeo Christian doctrines are light years ahead of cultures which have stemmed from Hinduism and islam.

The treatment, today 2016, of the female in these cultures is deplorably depraved.

Between them they culturally / religiously leave baby girls beside tracks to die from exposure, eaten by wild animals, or if extremely lucky found by a kind human who will look to their needs, they are just as likely to be found by a fellow human who will take them and subject them to a life of slavery and sexual abuse.

They will marry little girls to fully matured men who rape them and in many cases murder the girls through uncontrolled vaginal hemorrhaging, or through death by fatal complications of an early pregnancy.

They will torture and murder their sisters and wives because of some supposed family honour slight.

So in making an assumption based on fact, I state that the culmination of the Judaeo Christian era (todays' 21st century civilization) the Hindus and muslims are millenniums behind us.

Of course the anti-Christian brigade will unremittingly work to hide the turpitudes of todays' muslims and Hindus, always trying to equate Christianity with the depravities of the 21st century muslim and Hindu.      

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