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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Latest from socialist Venezuela Reply #15 - Jun 28^th, 2016 at 7:59pm If she's a pedant why can't she give me a lecture on how well Venezuela is doing. I'm all ears
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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Latest from socialist Venezuela Reply #16 - Jun 29^th, 2016 at 4:21am bogarde73 wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 7:59pm: If she's a pedant why can't she give me a lecture on how well Venezuela is doing. I'm all ears Marlene is just a useful idiot, if she was born in Gaza the Pals would have convinced her to blow her self up at an Israeli checkpoint by now
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Reply #17 - Jun 29^th, 2016 at 6:46am

OK so lets investigate further why Marlene is a big fan of socialism, socialism is essentially the revenge of the losers, when Marlenes socialist hero Castro took over Cuba he made Che Guevara the head of the national bank, Che was just as shocked as anyone else at this appointment, after all he was a serial killer not a banker but the reason he was appointed at all was because he had the most faith in the mental illness that is socialism.

Now enter Marlene, what if you have delusions of grandeur yourself without the wherewithal to carry out those delusions by fair means ... bing, socialism is the answer, you can be made important not on the basis of hard work or intelligence but solely on the basis of sucking up to the big man upstairs that shares your delusions to a tee.

This is an evolutionary pathway that some humans like Marlene have adopted to get ahead and if they can just get the hard workers and the intelligent out of the picture like Castro and Stalin did it will be a successful pathway.

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Reply #18 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 1:03am

Wolseley wrote on Jun 27^th, 2016 at 10:47pm:

There are failed Capitalist countries too, and Communist ones. It's not hard to find failures. The problem with Venezuela seems to be to me to be more a problem with humankind in general. Socialism, or to take its more extreme form, Communism, requires everyone to work towards the common good. Unfortunately humans are not like that. It is more often a case of “what’s in it for me?”. In the case of Venezuela a lot has gone wrong. One of the major problems there has been corruption - that and outright incompetence. Socialism has no chance in such an environment, hence the failure.

Socialism has no chance in ANY environment, and you just explained why: "Socialism, or to take its more extreme form, Communism, requires everyone to work towards the common good. Unfortunately, humans are not like that."

It's the same reason utopian societies inevitably fail -- because it's human nature to want to improve yourself, not to spend your life settling for mediocrity. So, competition is inevitable, but competition is what leads to improvement.

Recent developments in Cuba make a mockery of the old Communist revolution. As CBC News reported in March:

"In Old Havana, there's a storefront with a cardboard sign for a private hairdresser. A notice advertising a room for rent in a seafoam-green casa. A sidewalk stand selling pizzas and honey-drizzled flatbreads.

"Cuban capitalism, once an oxymoron, now represents a softer kind of revolution."

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Reply #19 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 3:33am

bogarde73 wrote on Jun 28^th, 2016 at 7:59pm:

If she's a pedant why can't she give me a lecture on how well Venezuela is doing.
I'm all ears

You know, you're really starting to piss me off. As I had mentioned before, the pro-capitalist, bourgeois nationalist policies of the ruling United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) are the oness who have solely created this social catastrophe for Venezuelan population.

Google the caracazo of 1989 Not only is it falling oil prices but the pro-capitalists overtake of both private foreign and domestic banks who are in control of the commanding heights of the Venezuelan economy.

The same god damn capitalist banks that are pulling the strings of the Venezuelan government who are the ones slashing desperately needed imports of food and medicine in order to continue funneling tens of billions of dollars to meeting interest payments right back into the pockets of Wall Street bondholders.

So either shut the bugger up or learn some god damn facts.

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I know progress has no patience but something's got to give

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Latest from socialist Venezuela Reply #20 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 7:19am bogarde73 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 4:46pm: Marla's always offline. Hey babe, take a walk on the weed side. She'll bong you over the head for saying that.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13669 Colorado Gender:	Re: Latest from socialist Venezuela Reply #21 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 7:33am Boey is nothing more than a deaf, dumb, and blind robot for the right-wing media machine.
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Reply #22 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 8:04am

Marla wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 7:33am:

Boey is nothing more than a deaf, dumb, and blind robot for the right-wing media machine.

Capitalism has some nasty side-effects, but to a great extent these have been compensated for by massive welfare bureaucracies dispensing alms to those who fall through the cracks. Western capitalism can afford innumerable welfare benefits for its citizens which put to shame previous and current socialist and communist regimes.

Marla is young and sassy and full of bile and grievances about what previous generations have left her with - which all goes to show she's a normal, healthy young American filly with good prospects for the future when eventually she channels all these delinquent energies towards child-bearing and being an asset in her husband's kitchen and bedroom.

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Reply #23 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 8:20am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 8:04am:

Western capitalism can afford innumerable welfare benefits for its citizens which put to shame previous and current socialist and communist regimes.

Same old hippie rhetoric. The most dangerous alliance against the working class is to have anything in the way of a tripartite pact between corporations, the state, and controlled unions.

Capitalism utilizes union movements to suppress the struggling working class struggles while at the same time attract increasing foreign direct investment and create a growing low-wage manufacturing sector. Capitalism is a disease that inhibits the working class from organizing independently to defend its own interests and quality of life. You're just a blind ass kisser for imperialism.

Venezuela is in a crisis mainly due to be a trading partner of the US which has in turn increased that country’s dependence upon the volatile capitalist commodity markets which delivers nothing but low wages to attract investment which has led to a weakened export performance which in turn had led to the to the fall of commodity prices which in turn is what you see going on in Venezuela today.

All.Due.To.Capitalism.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Latest from socialist Venezuela Reply #24 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 8:58am I see they've got the power back on thanks to the rain. Now all they've got to do is pay their bills and the ships might come back to take their oil away. But socialists mostly like taking handouts, not paying bills.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13669 Colorado Gender:	Re: Latest from socialist Venezuela Reply #25 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 9:01am Let me know when you develop some neurons.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Latest from socialist Venezuela Reply #26 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 9:03am Is this your top drawer stuff hippie?
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Reply #27 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 9:07am

Marla wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 8:20am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 8:04am:

Western capitalism can afford innumerable welfare benefits for its citizens which put to shame previous and current socialist and communist regimes.

Same old hippie rhetoric. The most dangerous alliance against the working class is to have anything in the way of a tripartite pact between corporations, the state, and controlled unions.

Capitalism utilizes union movements to suppress the struggling working class

And Christ wept for His people!

Jesus CHRIST, Marla Schmarla - When did you swallow a 'Socialism for Dummies' book at that university of yours?

"Struggling working class" .... You are more wedded to the goddamned soap-box Sunday-in-the-park rhetoric of the 1950's than I am! Who the hell has been feeding you this crap/pap? It was your father, wasn't it ... and in order to ensure his love you learnt to parrot his angst and faux outrage like a series of psalms, didn't you?

Didn't you?

Answer the question!

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Latest from socialist Venezuela Reply #28 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 9:16am Marla wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 8:20am: All.Due.To.Capitalism. Are we to understand that you view Jews as the Devil's Spawn for their contribution to world capitalism?
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Reply #29 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 1:29pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 8:04am:

[quote author=Marla link=1466642328/21#21 date=1467581610]Boey is nothing more than a deaf, dumb, and blind robot for the right-wing media machine.

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Marla is young and sassy and full of bile and grievances about what previous generations have left her with - which all goes to show she's a normal, healthy young American filly with good prospects for the future when eventually she channels all these delinquent energies towards child-bearing and being an asset in her husband's kitchen and bedroom.

Pure gold. Inspired even!

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