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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #30 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:37pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 12:28pm:
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I can't see any mention of the word, either ISLAM, or 'moslem', in that statement by Trump ?





"Terrorism is notoriously difficult to define. The GTD defines it as “the threatened or actual use of illegal force and violence by a non-state actor to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through fear, coercion or intimidation.” By this definition, the two most prolific U.S. terrorist groups over the past 20 years are the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front, each responsible for more than 60 incidents." Link

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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #31 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:40pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:29pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:22pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:02pm:
But why do you raise this? It is irrelevant because to talk about terrorism today is to talk about radical Islamic terrorism and everybody, except you apparently, realises this.


Incorrect.

Between 1995 and 2014, for example, right wing terrorists killed almost 1,000 people in the US.

You're trying awfully hard to cover up these acts of terrorism.

Why is that?

got a link numptoid?
Hello Pecca. 1,000????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Almost 1,000 deaths and injuries.



Now deaths AND injuries!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Almost a 1,000 deaths. Grin Grin Grin Grin Says YOU?????Evidence!!!


Correct.

Almost 1,000 deaths and injuries.

981 is the correct figure, if memory serves me correct.

You seem to be going out of your way to defend these acts of terrorism.

Why is that?

Pecca- Between 1995 and 2014, for example, right wing terrorists killed almost 1,000 people in the US.



Now I want the evidence!!


About 981.

Why are you defending these attacks?

About 981??? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


That's correct.

My memory didn't fail me.

The number is 981 deaths and injuries from right wing terrorists.

Then there were another 258 from other non-Muslim terrorists.

The total being 1,239 deaths and injuries from non-Islamic terrorist attacks in the US between 1995 and 2014.

I think my maths is right, but feel free to correct me if I got something wrong.

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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #32 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:58pm
 

" ... right-wing militants who, since 2002, have killed more people in the United States than jihadis have. In that time ... Islamists launched nine attacks that murdered 45, while the right-wing extremists struck 18 times, leaving 48 dead." February 2016

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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #33 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:00pm
 

"Though terrorism perpetrated by Muslims receives a disproportionate amount of attention from politicians and reporters, the reality is that right-wing extremists pose a much greater threat to people in the United States than terrorists connected to ISIS or similar organizations."

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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #34 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:01pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:29pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:22pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:02pm:
But why do you raise this? It is irrelevant because to talk about terrorism today is to talk about radical Islamic terrorism and everybody, except you apparently, realises this.


Incorrect.

Between 1995 and 2014, for example, right wing terrorists killed almost 1,000 people in the US.

You're trying awfully hard to cover up these acts of terrorism.

Why is that?

got a link numptoid?
Hello Pecca. 1,000????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Almost 1,000 deaths and injuries.



Now deaths AND injuries!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Almost a 1,000 deaths. Grin Grin Grin Grin Says YOU?????Evidence!!!


Correct.

Almost 1,000 deaths and injuries.

981 is the correct figure, if memory serves me correct.

You seem to be going out of your way to defend these acts of terrorism.

Why is that?

Pecca- Between 1995 and 2014, for example, right wing terrorists killed almost 1,000 people in the US.



Now I want the evidence!!


About 981.

Why are you defending these attacks?

About 981??? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


That's correct.

My memory didn't fail me.

The number is 981 deaths and injuries from right wing terrorists.

Then there were another 258 from other non-Muslim terrorists.

The total being 1,239 deaths and injuries from non-Islamic terrorist attacks in the US between 1995 and 2014.

I think my maths is right, but feel free to correct me if I got something wrong.

I'm still waiting on your link. Your memory doesn't impress me.
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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #35 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:01pm
 

"As UNC Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer explained last June in the New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks “accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.” Meanwhile, “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”

You Are More Than 7 Times As Likely To Be Killed By A Right-Wing Extremist Than By Muslim Terrorists
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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #36 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:03pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:29pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:22pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:02pm:
But why do you raise this? It is irrelevant because to talk about terrorism today is to talk about radical Islamic terrorism and everybody, except you apparently, realises this.


Incorrect.

Between 1995 and 2014, for example, right wing terrorists killed almost 1,000 people in the US.

You're trying awfully hard to cover up these acts of terrorism.

Why is that?

got a link numptoid?
Hello Pecca. 1,000????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Almost 1,000 deaths and injuries.



Now deaths AND injuries!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Almost a 1,000 deaths. Grin Grin Grin Grin Says YOU?????Evidence!!!


Correct.

Almost 1,000 deaths and injuries.

981 is the correct figure, if memory serves me correct.

You seem to be going out of your way to defend these acts of terrorism.

Why is that?

Pecca- Between 1995 and 2014, for example, right wing terrorists killed almost 1,000 people in the US.



Now I want the evidence!!


About 981.

Why are you defending these attacks?

About 981??? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


That's correct.

My memory didn't fail me.

The number is 981 deaths and injuries from right wing terrorists.

Then there were another 258 from other non-Muslim terrorists.

The total being 1,239 deaths and injuries from non-Islamic terrorist attacks in the US between 1995 and 2014.

I think my maths is right, but feel free to correct me if I got something wrong.

I'm still waiting on your link. Your memory doesn't impress me.


I'll post it a second time for you, Homo.

Gweg's Link

"In the aftermath of 9/11, it has become easy to equate terrorism with violent Islamists. But this chart, showing the number of deaths and injuries caused by terrorist attacks in the U.S. from 1995 to 2014, paints a more complex picture."

My numbers seem to add up correctly.

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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #37 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:06pm
 
Give up Pecca.
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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #38 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:08pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:06pm:
Give up Pecca.


Give up providing you with facts?  Never.

So, why is it that you are so determined to cover up these right wing terrorists attacks?

I'm curious.

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Re: Trump on terrorism
Reply #39 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:10pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:34pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:29pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:22pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 3:02pm:
But why do you raise this? It is irrelevant because to talk about terrorism today is to talk about radical Islamic terrorism and everybody, except you apparently, realises this.


Incorrect.

Between 1995 and 2014, for example, right wing terrorists killed almost 1,000 people in the US.

You're trying awfully hard to cover up these acts of terrorism.

Why is that?

got a link numptoid?
Hello Pecca. 1,000????? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Almost 1,000 deaths and injuries.



Now deaths AND injuries!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Almost a 1,000 deaths. Grin Grin Grin Grin Says YOU?????Evidence!!!


Correct.

Almost 1,000 deaths and injuries.

981 is the correct figure, if memory serves me correct.

You seem to be going out of your way to defend these acts of terrorism.

Why is that?

Pecca- Between 1995 and 2014, for example, right wing terrorists killed almost 1,000 people in the US.



Now I want the evidence!!


About 981.

Why are you defending these attacks?

About 981??? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


That's correct.

My memory didn't fail me.

The number is 981 deaths and injuries from right wing terrorists.

Then there were another 258 from other non-Muslim terrorists.

The total being 1,239 deaths and injuries from non-Islamic terrorist attacks in the US between 1995 and 2014.

I think my maths is right, but feel free to correct me if I got something wrong.

I'm still waiting on your link. Your memory doesn't impress me.


I'll post it a second time for you, Homo.

Gweg's Link

"In the aftermath of 9/11, it has become easy to equate terrorism with violent Islamists. But this chart, showing the number of deaths and injuries caused by terrorist attacks in the U.S. from 1995 to 2014, paints a more complex picture."

My numbers seem to add up correctly.

Wiki- The April 19, 1995 attack on the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma, by the right-wing extremists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, which killed 168 people.[27] McVeigh stated it was retaliation for the government's actions in Ruby Ridge and Waco.[28] McVeigh attended Michigan militia group gun shows.[29][30]

Eric Rudolph executed a series of terrorist attacks between 1996 and 1998. He carried out 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing — which claimed two lives and injured 111 — with the aim of to cancelling the games, claiming they promoted global socialism.[31] Rudolph confessed to bombing an abortion clinic in Sandy Springs, an Atlanta suburb, on January 16, 1997; the Otherside Lounge, an Atlanta lesbian bar, on February 21, 1997, injuring five; and an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama on January 29, 1998, killing Birmingham police officer and part-time clinic security guard Robert Sanderson, and critically injuring nurse Emily Lyons.

According to data compiled by the New America Foundation, since the 2001 September 11 attacks, right-wing extremists have committed at least 19 lethal terrorist attacks in the United States, resulting in the deaths of 48 people.[32]



So where is your date for almost 1,000. Your numbers don't add up.
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Reply #41 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:11pm
 

"Then there are the white supremacists. They include Wade Michael Page, who stormed the Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, in August 2012, killing six worshippers and wounding four more. When the GTD is updated for 2015, it will also include the murder of nine black members of the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, gunned down in June by 21-year-old Dylann Roof, seen posing online with the Confederate flag."

More non-Islamic terrorism

I condemn all terrorism, Homo. Islamic and non-Islamic alike.

You, however, only recognise and condemn Islamic terrorism.

Why is that?  I'm curious.

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Reply #42 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:13pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:10pm:
So where is your date for almost 1,000. Your numbers don't add up.


This is the fourth time I've posted this link now, Homo.

Why are you so keen to ignore these attacks?

981 right wing terrorist deaths and injuries
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Reply #43 - Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:19pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 4:11pm:
"Then there are the white supremacists. They include Wade Michael Page, who stormed the Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, in August 2012, killing six worshippers and wounding four more. When the GTD is updated for 2015, it will also include the murder of nine black members of the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, gunned down in June by 21-year-old Dylann Roof, seen posing online with the Confederate flag."

More non-Islamic terrorism

I condemn all terrorism, Homo. Islamic and non-Islamic alike.

You, however, only recognise and condemn Islamic terrorism.

Why is that?  I'm curious.

I don't like any terrorism Pecca. But I don't agree that right wing nutters have killed more people in America since 9/11 nor do I believe they have killed nearly 1,000 people. And for some reason a bunch of different motives come under "right wing" McVeigh was a Christian nutter protesting over Waco. If religious motives come under right wing then why doesn't Islamic  religious terrorism come under right wing. Right wing means white racist terrorism for which there is very little.
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