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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #150 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:06pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:02pm:
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
No you dont. If you did have first hand experience you would have known that shock is a physical state, not a psychological one. Continuing down this line only makes you look more silly.


Yes, it's a physical state but one's psychological bent decides when it kicks in.
Perhaps, but a different argument.
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Reply #151 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:08pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:04pm:
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:44pm:
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:37pm:
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:26pm:
these are the symptoms of shock They dont include getting enraged or deciding to deliberately provide a false report to police.
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The main symptom of shock is low blood pressure. Other symptoms include rapid, shallow breathing; cold, clammy skin; rapid, weak pulse; dizziness, fainting, or weakness.
Mothra appears to think that "shock" after trauma is somehow a psychological state, its not, its  a physical set of symptoms.



Yep. The clear front runner for the "no idea at all" award.

Impressive, considering the field.

You shoudnt make out that you know these things then you wont look so stupid, ive warned you about that before. Your frantic googling didnt help you because you posted without actual knowledge.


I've considerable knowledge about this subject Ian ... and you are full of shite.
No you dont. If you did have first hand experience you would have known that shock is a physical state, not a psychological one. Continuing down this line only makes you look more silly.



Ian. Emotional instability is perfectly reasonable in shock.

Are you thinking clearly when in shock Ian?
Most people in shock are emotionally unresponsive.
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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #152 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:06pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:39pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:26pm:
Why is it that ian and so many others in here are condoning this act of rape?


Cite?

Link?

The fact is morally bankrupt leftists cover up rapes done by muslims.


BigOl64: "She deserves no pity or consideration for her rape." Link


I don't have much sympathy for people who lie to the police about being raped.

How are the police supposed to do their job and catch the offenders when people deliberately lie to the police?


Another one making excuses for rapists.

You guys are really coming out of the woodwork today.



You are the apologist making excuses and avoiding my question, we all know little pecca is a morally bankrupt troll.


Too late to backtrack.

You condone the rape, just like ian, Herbert, and BigOl64.

No further explanation is required.



Little pecca must be retarded to claim I condone rape.

Why are you avoiding this question little pecca?
How are police supposed to do their job and catch the offenders when people deliberately lie to the police?


I accept your white flag in avoiding the question
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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #153 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:39pm
 
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:11pm:
Looking through this thread, i cannot  find one comment from anyone actually condemning the rapists. 


Good point Ian - we've had far more important people to condemn - like the victim.
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Reply #154 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:40pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:09pm:
How are police supposed to do their job and catch the offenders when people deliberately lie to the police?


Struggling a bit tonight, aren't you.

I've already said that lying to the police is a stupid thing to do.

She was clearly wrong to do so.

However, it doesn't mean that she deserves to be raped again.

Do you support Herbert and BigOl64 in their calls to have her repeatedly raped to teach her a lesson?

I'm curious.

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Reply #155 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:51pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 6:34pm:
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 6:32pm:
strange how mothra defends rapists.



Where?

... this should be good.


*crickets chirping*
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #156 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 10:35pm
 
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:08pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:04pm:
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 9:00pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:44pm:
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:41pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:37pm:
ian wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 8:26pm:
these are the symptoms of shock They dont include getting enraged or deciding to deliberately provide a false report to police.
Quote:
The main symptom of shock is low blood pressure. Other symptoms include rapid, shallow breathing; cold, clammy skin; rapid, weak pulse; dizziness, fainting, or weakness.
Mothra appears to think that "shock" after trauma is somehow a psychological state, its not, its  a physical set of symptoms.



Yep. The clear front runner for the "no idea at all" award.

Impressive, considering the field.

You shoudnt make out that you know these things then you wont look so stupid, ive warned you about that before. Your frantic googling didnt help you because you posted without actual knowledge.


I've considerable knowledge about this subject Ian ... and you are full of shite.
No you dont. If you did have first hand experience you would have known that shock is a physical state, not a psychological one. Continuing down this line only makes you look more silly.



Ian. Emotional instability is perfectly reasonable in shock.

Are you thinking clearly when in shock Ian?
Most people in shock are emotionally unresponsive.



Don't really understand shock, do you.
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Reply #157 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:18pm
 
Hi Mothra,

I don't know a lot about shock, but I know a bit about trauma. The victim has certainly suffered trauma, which, if it causes ptsd can cause blackouts of the event, and tangled up memories, usually just snatches of the event.

But I think it's a long stretch to suggest the trauma would cause the victim to initially think her attackers were German, and then change your mind 12 hours later.

I have enjoyed your spirited defence here, btw.
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Reply #158 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:25pm
 
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Reply #159 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:25pm
 
Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:18pm:
Hi Mothra,

I don't know a lot about shock, but I know a bit about trauma. The victim has certainly suffered trauma, which, if it causes ptsd can cause blackouts of the event, and tangled up memories, usually just snatches of the event.

But I think it's a long stretch to suggest the trauma would cause the victim to initially think her attackers were German, and then change your mind 12 hours later.

I have enjoyed your spirited defence here, btw.



Hiya Nicole,

I don't think the trans or shock compelled her to lie to the police, I mean only to represent that she wasn't, owing to being in shock, thinking clearly .

As evidenced by her amendments 12hrs later.


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Reply #162 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:36pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:25pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:18pm:
Hi Mothra,

I don't know a lot about shock, but I know a bit about trauma. The victim has certainly suffered trauma, which, if it causes ptsd can cause blackouts of the event, and tangled up memories, usually just snatches of the event.

But I think it's a long stretch to suggest the trauma would cause the victim to initially think her attackers were German, and then change your mind 12 hours later.

I have enjoyed your spirited defence here, btw.



Hiya Nicole,

I don't think the trans or shock compelled her to lie to the police, I mean only to represent that she wasn't, owing to being in shock, thinking clearly .

As evidenced by her amendments 12hrs later.




Good morning Mothra and Nicole, not all people that suffer traumatic events suffer shock. And then even sufferers of minor events can go into shock, being rear ended in a car for eg. It's roots are psychological but the manifestation are physical. Everyone has a different level of "shock" tolerance.

I don't want this to sound like I am diminishing rape. I'm not.
To say every rape victim is also in shock is to say every rear ended driver is in shock. It's just not so.

Hell, I'll even go out on a limb and say I think it depends how precious a person is. One person I was involved with after a rear ender, not a participant, a woman, got out of the car and thought she was lucky to be alive, she was almost killed, she went into shock.
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Reply #163 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:37pm
 
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Reply #164 - Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:39pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:36pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:25pm:
Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 7th, 2016 at 11:18pm:
Hi Mothra,

I don't know a lot about shock, but I know a bit about trauma. The victim has certainly suffered trauma, which, if it causes ptsd can cause blackouts of the event, and tangled up memories, usually just snatches of the event.

But I think it's a long stretch to suggest the trauma would cause the victim to initially think her attackers were German, and then change your mind 12 hours later.

I have enjoyed your spirited defence here, btw.



Hiya Nicole,

I don't think the trans or shock compelled her to lie to the police, I mean only to represent that she wasn't, owing to being in shock, thinking clearly .

As evidenced by her amendments 12hrs later.




Good morning Mothra and Nicole, not all people that suffer traumatic events suffer shock. And then even sufferers of minor events can go into shock, being rear ended in a car for eg. It's roots are psychological but the manifestation are physical. Everyone has a different level of "shock" tolerance.

I don't want this to sound like I am diminishing rape. I'm not.
To say every rape victim is also in shock is to say every rear ended driver is in shock. It's just not so.



You are talking about circulatory shock.

I'm talking about generic shock.
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