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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138957 Gender:	Re: German politician RAPED Reply #270 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:31pm ... wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 5:30pm: She is female ... I'm gonna have to take your word on that.
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Reply #271 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:25pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 2:17pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

The fact is that in the end she did do the right thing and in the process knowingly subjected herself and the refugee community to the vilification they are receiving now.

That's like feeling sorry for Ku Klux Klan members in the 1960s because their lynchings of black men caused many Americans to not like them.

You miss my point. It was in response to those who claim her actions in the aftermath of her rape was purely a cynical political ploy. If she was interested in exploiting this for her political agenda, she could have just stuck to her story of white rapists and continued scoffing at anyone who claimed refugees were rapists. Turning around and admitting that yeah in fact, refugees can and did rape, and not only that - admitting that she actually lied originally for ideological reasons - is about the worst thing you could do to further that particular political agenda. As can be seen by the metaphorical raping she, as well as the refugee community is receiving now.

Oh, and, shame on you for comparing refugees with the klan Sad

She committed a crime when she lied to police and they're not stupid they smell the stink of a bullsh1t story soon enough; their police interrogator would have her blubbering the truth whether she wanted to or not.

Her political agenda was pummeled in to a pile of garbage in spite of her lies and deceit; she deserves nothing but contempt and to be treated no better than her rapists.

What?? You telling me a woman goes to the police to report a crime and they'll get the interrogation unit on to her to force her to "blubber the truth, whether she wanted to or not"? Grin

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Reply #272 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:49pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:57pm:

But according to the Daily Mail, the only reason she came clean is at a friend's urging -- after somebody else had reportedly been raped.

As I said before, she still had to be urged - unless you are going to argue she was prodded to the police station with a big stick. You should at least give credit for that. It would have been far easier just to ignore her friend's advise.

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and what's more, she continued to stridently espouse her cause on Facebook even after finally telling the police the truth. Listen to her gush:

"I am really sorry that your sexist and line-crossing treatment of me could help fuel aggressive racism ... I will not stand by and watch, and it can happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem. You're not the problem. You're usually a wonderful human being who deserves as much as any other to be safe and free. 'I will not stand by and watch and let it happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem.'"

And..?

So she doesn't want all refugees to be vilified because of this crime, and thats a big issue for her. Thats a very honourable concern to have - for someone whose just been raped and for whom it would be far easier to simply hop on the bigot bandwagon in vilifying them. And it is an unreasonable and unfair logical leap to conclude from this that she therefore thinks rape is unimportant, or less important than protecting refugees from vilification (when its refugees doing it).

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Apparently in her book, racists are worse than rapists.

apparently, you are prone to logical fallacies.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #273 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

So she doesn't want all refugees to be vilified because of this crime,

Why would she assume that by identifying these three as refugees it would cause a million newcomer refugees to Germany to all be thought rapists?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Thats a very honourable concern to have - for someone whose just been raped and for whom it would be far easier to simply hop on the bigot bandwagon in vilifying them.

Help me out here, gandalf, I'm still confused about this.

How would it be vilifying a million newcomer refugees if she were to identify these three as her assailants?

What it seems like to me is that she herself is well aware that the recent flood of Muslims claiming refugee status are so prone to sexual abuse of the locals that they have to be sat down like small children in special classes all over Europe and Scandinavia to be informed that sexual assault is not part of the local culture.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

And it is an unreasonable and unfair logical leap to conclude from this that she therefore thinks rape is unimportant ...

No, what we can conclude from her attitude is that she herself is in denial that the sexual delinquency and feral behaviour of a great many of these young men is well-earned and is a cultural staple that they themselves celebrate under the title of 'Taharrush Jamai'.

You really ought to have that little pan-and-brush you carry around with you, titanium-plated against rust and wear.

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Reply #274 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:35pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:21pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

So she doesn't want all refugees to be vilified because of this crime,

Why would she assume that by identifying these three as refugees it would cause a million newcomer refugees to Germany to all be thought rapists?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

Thats a very honourable concern to have - for someone whose just been raped and for whom it would be far easier to simply hop on the bigot bandwagon in vilifying them.

Help me out here, gandalf, I'm still confused about this.

How would it be vilifying a million newcomer refugees if she were to identify these three as her assailants?

What it seems like to me is that she herself is well aware that the recent flood of Muslims claiming refugee status are so prone to sexual abuse of the locals that they have to be sat down like small children in special classes all over Europe and Scandinavia to be informed that sexual assault is not part of the local culture.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 7:49pm:

And it is an unreasonable and unfair logical leap to conclude from this that she therefore thinks rape is unimportant ...

No, what we can conclude from her attitude is that she herself is in denial that the sexual delinquency and feral behaviour of a great many of these young men is well-earned and is a cultural staple that they themselves celebrate under the title of 'Taharrush Jamai'.

You really ought to have that little pan-and-brush you carry around with you, titanium-plated against rust and wear.

How many times would you like to see her raped, in order to teach her a lesson?

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Reply #275 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:37pm

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...............Listen to her gush:

"I am really sorry that your sexist and line-crossing treatment of me could help fuel aggressive racism ... I will not stand by and watch, and it can happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem. You're not the problem. You're usually a wonderful human being who deserves as much as any other to be safe and free. 'I will not stand by and watch and let it happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem.'" ..................

She is a nutjob.

Sounds like she is begging for all her sisters to be forcibly raped by gangs of muslims too.

Wonder if she paid them to rape her ?

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Reply #276 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:38pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

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...............Listen to her gush:

"I am really sorry that your sexist and line-crossing treatment of me could help fuel aggressive racism ... I will not stand by and watch, and it can happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem. You're not the problem. You're usually a wonderful human being who deserves as much as any other to be safe and free. 'I will not stand by and watch and let it happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem.'" ..................

She is a nutjob.

Sounds like she is begging for all her sisters to be forcibly raped by gangs of muslims too.

Wonder if she paid them to rape her ?

How much would it take you, Sprint?

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Reply #277 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:45pm

mothra wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 1:51am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 1:38am:

mothra wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 1:15am:

Setanta wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 1:01am:

mothra wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:49am:

You need to ask yourself why you drew the parallel, not about the orientation of my bat.

I dare say they are for the same reason. Is one kind of violation worse than another?

Or for crying out loud Setanta. Just how bored are you?

A little. Well enough to say good night in all honesty but Is one kind of violation worse than another? It's a hard one, ages of the victims. etc.

Worse? That's a heavy word. Is it worse to rape a child than an adult? Or worse to rape an adult?

When you consider the difference in perspectives.

What does "worse" mean?

You know, I'm sure. I hope you don't think that all violations of a person are equal like the Christian god thinks all sins are equal. A sin is a sin, a violation is a violation?

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Reply #278 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

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...............Listen to her gush:

"I am really sorry that your sexist and line-crossing treatment of me could help fuel aggressive racism ... I will not stand by and watch, and it can happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem. You're not the problem. You're usually a wonderful human being who deserves as much as any other to be safe and free. 'I will not stand by and watch and let it happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem.'" ..................

She is a nutjob.

Sounds like she is begging for all her sisters to be forcibly raped by gangs of muslims too.

Wonder if she paid them to rape her ?

How much would it take you, Sprint?

you are doing untold harm for your own cause, whatever that is .

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Reply #279 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:56pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:37pm:

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...............Listen to her gush:

"I am really sorry that your sexist and line-crossing treatment of me could help fuel aggressive racism ... I will not stand by and watch, and it can happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem. You're not the problem. You're usually a wonderful human being who deserves as much as any other to be safe and free. 'I will not stand by and watch and let it happen that racists and concerned citizens name you as the problem.'" ..................

She is a nutjob.

Sounds like she is begging for all her sisters to be forcibly raped by gangs of muslims too.

Wonder if she paid them to rape her ?

How much would it take you, Sprint?

you are doing untold harm for your own cause, whatever that is .

Not willing to answer?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: German politician RAPED Reply #280 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:14pm Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:21pm: Help me out here, gandalf Sorry Herb, thats way beyond my expertise.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138957 Gender:	Re: German politician RAPED Reply #281 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:19pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:21pm: Help me out here, gandalf Sorry Herb, thats way beyond my expertise. Oh man, Herbie got owned!
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: German politician RAPED Reply #282 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:20pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:21pm: Help me out here, gandalf Sorry Herb, thats way beyond my expertise. Not willing to answer?
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Mistress Nicole Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1278 Gender:	Re: German politician RAPED Reply #283 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:22pm Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:20pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:21pm: Help me out here, gandalf Sorry Herb, thats way beyond my expertise. Not willing to answer? That much is obvious. I'd say he's been owned.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138957 Gender:	Re: German politician RAPED Reply #284 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:23pm Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:20pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 9:14pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:21pm: Help me out here, gandalf Sorry Herb, thats way beyond my expertise. Not willing to answer? Easy on the plagiarism, Herbert.
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