mothra wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:27am:


You are trying to say that you know how all gang rape victims feel because you were one. There is a logical fallacy there. I do have one friend that was gang raped, known her since I was 14, I could ask.

Setanta wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:42am:



You know 9 million women die every year in childbirth?

Setanta wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:41am:




And no. I'm not saying that at all.

mothra wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:27am:

I'm sorry to hear that.

mothra wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:27am:

B.S. -- I've never said that in any of my posts. Don't associate me with statements I haven't made.

mothra wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:27am:

Which she obviously was, at least in the beginning, when her first concern was that reporting the true identity of her attackers might encourage greater racism against refugees.

Whether that was due to her "not thinking clearly" and whether she still frets more about racists than rapists are a matter of speculation. Of course a person who's just been raped may not be thinking clearly, but that doesn't necessarily mean she lied to the police for that reason.


mothra wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:27am:

I didn't say that either, although the fact that she claimed they were German speakers is essentially the same thing. She certainly wasn't out to incriminate Middle East Muslims, was she?


mothra wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:27am:

And again, I'm sorry to hear that.

But just as every person doesn't react the same to a robbery or a burglary, every person doesn't react the same to a rape.

I don't have to be gang raped to know that. All I need is 5 seconds with Google. From the American Academy of Experts in Traumatic Stress: "Women will react differently after sexual assault or rape."
http://www.aaets.org/article117.htm

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That's quite a range of emotions, all understandable.

My point is that just as I'm not a gang rape victim, you're not a Turkish Muslim whose first concern might be for her religious community and not herself.

Or not, I don't know. But neither do you.

Maybe you're too close to this issue to debate it and give a fair hearing to other people's thoughts on this topic.

mothra wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:44am:


I will and I'll PM what she says to you.

mothra wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:49am:


Don't be silly, we are not talking about the world,  we are talking about here or else the driving thing might be way out. We have a low road toll compared to...

We also have a low mother death during birth. Lower than our low road toll.

mothra wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:57am:


Enlighten us or we know not of what you speak.

Edit: The rape?

There is more in this story than rape.