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Reply #90 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 6:45pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 6:28pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 6:10pm:

You're hypothesising. You don't know why she didn't want samples taken.

She amended her statement 12hrs later.

She was in shock.

But attributing her actions to "shock" is also hypothesizing.

And the fact is, her PC attitude toward refugees has essentially remained the same before and after the assault. Look at what her Facebook post said: "What really hurts me is that it is a fact that the sexist and over the line incident that happened to me will inevitably lead to more aggression and racism."

So in her mind, racism is worse than rape, especially when directed against refugees.

You've enigmatically arrived at the conclusion that she thinks racism is worse than rape but you've probably not factored in that she probably doesn't like either very much.

Jesus, you guys have no idea about rape.

But is is easy enough to identify a lying piece of sh1t, sub human who facilitates the entry of rapists into her own country.

But feel free to defend her vile actions; maybe she will facilitate more rapists in the future. Angry

Vile actions is aittle strong, don't you think? She ballsed up. She came good.

Now she's getting raped by the media.

Does that not satisfy your lust for vengeance?

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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #91 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:17pm

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:08pm:

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 6:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 6:49pm:

We can speculate on why she went to the police at all.

According to the Express, she wasn't the one who went to the police. Check this out: "A member of the public who saw her in a distraught state soon afterwards called the police."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/686192/selin-goren-arabic-men-rape-quiet-enc...

OK. Serves me right for reading the Daily Mail article linked int the OP and commenting on it. So I'll change my previous story to be a hypothetical based on the DM article.

On the Express article:
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Adding to this, Ms Goren said the first question she was asked by police was: "Were they refugees?"
She said this enraged her, so she replied no.

It's weird that she took the question as implied racism and was more outraged about that than being raped. I think that shows we can rule out "shock".

No it doesn't rule out shock.

She would have been in shock and not thinking clearly.

Enragement isnt a symptom of someone in shock.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138964 Gender:	Re: German politician RAPED Reply #92 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm: Now she's getting raped by the media. That's not good enough for Herbert and BigOl64. They want to see her repeatedly raped by more men. I wonder what BigOl's wife and daughters would think of his love of rape.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35522 Gender:	Re: German politician RAPED Reply #93 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:24pm Wow Ian. You just edges out Herbie for having the least idea in the thread. First up, you are basing your "observation" on a word a journalist used. Second up, becoming enraged at something is perfectly possible while a person is in shock. She would have been in shock. Obviously.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35522 Gender:	Re: German politician RAPED Reply #94 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:28pm And Ian, any luck finding where I supposedly defended rapists yet? I've been waiting so patiently.
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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #95 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Now she's getting raped by the media.

That's not good enough for Herbert and BigOl64.

They want to see her repeatedly raped by more men.

I wonder what BigOl's wife and daughters would think of his love of rape.

It's truly sickening, isn't it.

I must say I am having considerable difficultly with those on this thread that are sitting in judgement as to how she behaved after being raped, and appalled by how few have come out to condemn Herbie and Bigol ... but the sheer misogyny and violence behind D actually wishing rape on a woman is highly alarming.

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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #96 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:37pm

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Now she's getting raped by the media.

That's not good enough for Herbert and BigOl64.

They want to see her repeatedly raped by more men.

I wonder what BigOl's wife and daughters would think of his love of rape.

It's truly sickening, isn't it.

I must say I am having considerable difficultly with those on this thread that are sitting in judgement as to how she behaved after being raped, and appalled by how few have come out to condemn Herbie and Bigol ... but the sheer misogyny and violence behind D actually wishing rape on a woman is highly alarming.

You are too Mothra, everyone is different.

Nothing I said to Herb or BigHole would make the slightest difference. I prefer them to read my posts as possible input to their mindset, I'm not hopeful but paying out on them won't help but in no way could I see the situation as they do.

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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #97 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:42pm

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Now she's getting raped by the media.

That's not good enough for Herbert and BigOl64.

They want to see her repeatedly raped by more men.

I wonder what BigOl's wife and daughters would think of his love of rape.

It's truly sickening, isn't it.

I must say I am having considerable difficultly with those on this thread that are sitting in judgement as to how she behaved after being raped, and appalled by how few have come out to condemn Herbie and Bigol ... but the sheer misogyny and violence behind D actually wishing rape on a woman is highly alarming.

Take it from a racist homophobic mulleted flanny wearing bogan, don't expect a rational or predictable reaction from a woman whose been raped.

Save your ire for the systemic cover ups and minimisation of rapes by the German Govt.

Give the individual a pass but understand she's a product of the PC system

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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #98 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:44pm

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Now she's getting raped by the media.

That's not good enough for Herbert and BigOl64.

They want to see her repeatedly raped by more men.

I wonder what BigOl's wife and daughters would think of his love of rape.

It's truly sickening, isn't it.

I must say I am having considerable difficultly with those on this thread that are sitting in judgement as to how she behaved after being raped, and appalled by how few have come out to condemn Herbie and Bigol ... but the sheer misogyny and violence behind D actually wishing rape on a woman is highly alarming.

Not only are Herbert and BigOl openly hoping for a woman to be raped, but they're also repeating their sick request over and over again.

If BigOl's wife and daughters read what he has said in this forum, they would (hopefully) be outraged.

I just hope his wife wakes up to him before it's too late.

He sounds like a potentially very dangerous individual.

Herbert has nobody close to him, so I'm not quite as concerned about what he might do.

It saddens me to know there are people as sick as these two in our society, and that nobody else has come out to condemn them.

Just look at the Trump child rape accusations: people in this forum are bending over backwards to make excuses for him.

I blame Abbott.

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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #99 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:46pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

4thEstate, the daily express directly contradicts the Daily Mail - who to believe? I must say the express doesn't fill me with confidence - after the reporter firstly opines that the attackers were speaking either Kurdish or Farsi, then a few sentences later asserting that the men were "Arabic in appearance" Tongue

Gee, I don't know, Gandalf ... perhaps my faith in the Daily Mail was colored by those hard-hitting stories down the right side of the page, including, "Heidi Klum lets her blonde locks run wild as she steps out in floral ensemble and snakeskin bag in NYC."

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 6:50pm:

It was her boyfriend who persuaded her to come clean, not simply an attack of conscience.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

jeez you don't give much credit. Do you not think its possible that she was "persuaded" to come clean - by "an attack of conscience"?

What I said was that her decision to come clean wasn't "simply" an attack of conscience, at least according to media reports. If you prefer the Daily Mail's version: "She said a friend talked her into going back to the police with the real story." So it's not as if she was sitting around in her home and, solely on her own, decided to come forward.

And in answer to your question, anything's possible -- but I see no reason to give her any special credit based on speculation. Show me a report that says she set the record straight for altruistic reasons and perhaps I'll alter my stance.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

Presumably she was free to ignore her boyfriend's advise- unless you are suggesting she was somehow coerced against her will (though there is no evidence of this)?

The Daily Mail (if you prefer that newspaper) says she returned to the police 12 hours later. That's a far cry from being honest from the start, and it gave her attackers plenty of time to abuse other women in the meantime.

I'm sorry, but that's simply irresponsible -- especially since it's not as if she feared she would be risking her life by telling the truth. Nope, it was just a matter of putting her leftist cause above the safety of other women.

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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #100 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:44pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Now she's getting raped by the media.

That's not good enough for Herbert and BigOl64.

They want to see her repeatedly raped by more men.

I wonder what BigOl's wife and daughters would think of his love of rape.

It's truly sickening, isn't it.

I must say I am having considerable difficultly with those on this thread that are sitting in judgement as to how she behaved after being raped, and appalled by how few have come out to condemn Herbie and Bigol ... but the sheer misogyny and violence behind D actually wishing rape on a woman is highly alarming.

Not only are Herbert and BigOl openly hoping for a woman to be raped, but they're also repeating their sick request over and over again.

If BigOl's wife and daughters read what he has said in this forum, they would (hopefully) be outraged.

I just hope his wife wakes up to him before it's too late.

He sounds like a potentially very dangerous individual.

Herbert has nobody close to him, so I'm not quite as concerned about what he might do.

It saddens me to know there are people as sick as these two in our society, and that nobody else has come out to condemn them.

Just look at the Trump child rape accusations: people in this forum are bending over backwards to make excuses for him.

I blame Abbott.

Are you disappointed I'm not pro rape? I'll start another Islamiphobic thread to make up for it

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Reply #101 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:53pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:37pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:16pm:

Now she's getting raped by the media.

That's not good enough for Herbert and BigOl64.

They want to see her repeatedly raped by more men.

I wonder what BigOl's wife and daughters would think of his love of rape.

It's truly sickening, isn't it.

I must say I am having considerable difficultly with those on this thread that are sitting in judgement as to how she behaved after being raped, and appalled by how few have come out to condemn Herbie and Bigol ... but the sheer misogyny and violence behind D actually wishing rape on a woman is highly alarming.

You are too Mothra, everyone is different.

Nothing I said to Herb or BigHole would make the slightest difference. I prefer them to read my posts as possible input to their mindset, I'm not hopeful but paying out on them won't help but in no way could I see the situation as they do.

Please provide a link to where I passed any judgement on her.

And all I have done in this thread is defend this woman against the appalling things being said about her and I have attracted considerable more criticism than Herbie or Bigol.

Interesting, don't you think?

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Re: German politician RAPED
Reply #102 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:55pm

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

No it doesn't rule out shock.

She would have been in shock and not thinking clearly.

Her actions was entirely consistent with her previously stated ideology. Even after she went to the police, she reinforced it with a Facebook post gushing about refugees.

I have nothing but sympathy for rape victims, but in this case that's tempered by the fact that her "Refugees Uber Alles" attitude put countless other women at risk of suffering the same fate.

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Reply #103 - Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:59pm

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:55pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 7:13pm:

No it doesn't rule out shock.

She would have been in shock and not thinking clearly.

Her actions was entirely consistent with her previously stated ideology. Even after she went to the police, she reinforced it with a Facebook post gushing about refugees.

I have nothing but sympathy for rape victims, but in this case that's tempered by the fact that her "Refugees Uber Alles" attitude put countless other women at risk of suffering the same fate.

Kind of makes sense that her first and default reaction would be to fall back on her idiology.

Just hope slowly and surely as she's able to deal with this the rose coloured glasses come off

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