stryder wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 9:51pm:


And how many have occurred in Australia, Spider?

A small handful.

Funny that.  Could it be that Australian Muslims in the main are peaceful, law-abiding Australians?   If they are, perhaps its not what you believe they believe but what they actually believe that matters?  Mmmm?   

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 11:10pm:


Different interpretations, "Nicole" based on where they originate from.  Differing circumstances, differing relationship with the surrounding society.

We have few North African Muslims in Australia.   We mainly source our Muslim immigrants from SW and SE Asia.  Therefore, they have differing views on aspects of their religious beliefs.   And of course, because many are Refugees and Asylum Seekers, they are usually fleeing the more conservative Muslims...   

FD,

Regarding statements made in the OP;

People like Mike Baird and Malcolm Turnbull are not stupid, unintelligent men.

So, do you believe that politicians like Mike Baird and Malcolm Turnbull, have been ill-informed [by their 'expert' advisors] about the nature of ISLAM ?            [n.b. in the example from o/seas, moslems are invariably accepted [by government bureaucrats] as 'the best people', to be appointed to advisory positions in government, advising the government executive, about how best to deal with issues involving ISLAM and local moslems !]

Or, do you believe that politicians like Mike Baird and Malcolm Turnbull are largely aware of ISLAM's nefarious nature, but that cynically, they have chosen to simply play 'smart politics', and avoid any harmful public confrontation with an increasingly [politically] influential, and politically savy group of people in our community ?

Or, do you believe that current political leaders like Mike Baird and Malcolm Turnbull may be aware of the 'challenge' which ISLAM presents to our 'systems' of control, but are confident that they have the means to 'manage' [and prevent or minimise] any harmful social conflict or animosity which could possibly emerge, between moslems and non-moslems, here in Australia ?



Me ?

I suspect either the 1st or the third.

     ....and will present themselves [and their whole community], on behalf of ISLAM, as being the champions of fairness.   !!!!!

And you [false] liberals, and lefties, just suck up, all of those blatant and naked moslem LIES.

And this moslem falsehood, about the 'beneficence' of the 'noble moslem', has rarely been challenged by the non-moslems of liberal democracies;


Q.
Why not ?

Because the evidence is there,    ....which would enable us to openly challenge, the misrepresentation of what ISLAM is, by moslems, to those who are not moslems!



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       .....and where ISLAMIC law is the basis of the system of laws and lawmaking,       .....we always see the merciless oppression, persecution, and often public [i.e. mob] murder [or, an official execution], of members of minority non-moslem communities, for the 'real' crime of not being a moslem.

e.g.
A trumped up allegation against a Christian woman and mother, by a hateful moslem neighbour, followed by calls from the wider moslem community, for the 'rightful' and LAWFUL execution of the person alleged to have offended/'insulted' ISLAM;

"found guilty of insulting the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH)"

Google;
pakistan, christian woman sentenced to death, blasphemy

And in those moslem majority jurisdictions, we never see a groundswell of 'moderate' moslems, who are willing to champion the human rights, of members of minority non-moslem communities [who face, often false charges of blasphemy].

Malicious, and false accusations, upheld, because the accused are non-moslems,     ...accused by a moslem;

"She has been on death row since November 2010 after being convicted of committing blasphemy during an argument with a Muslim woman over a bowl of water."

Google;
persecution, minorities, islam, blasphemy law







Pakistan, Egypt, Sudan, Jordan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Indonesia, Malaysia, et al.



Wherever moslems are in a majority, ISLAM is often exposed, as being a violently intolerant, 'mono-cultural' system.....


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29




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Do some Googling;



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Checkout news reports from secular, liberal, democratic, Indonesia, the 'crucial US ally'.....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/category/indonesia




And checkout news reports from secular, liberal, democratic, Malaysia, 'the partner of the West'.....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/category/Malaysia

Yadda wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 10:16am:





Yadda said...
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1413535119/11#11
Quote:





And then there is that prominant Australian example;

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Google;
carnita matthews


Google;
Carnita Matthews false complaint against racist Sydney policeman


Google;
Fake Anti-Muslim Hate Crimes and Other Lies

6 11 2010 Jason Morrison Racial Hoax Carnita Matthews 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEUog0AZ5eQ

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 9:24pm:

FD's around, so he could have posted something if he wanted. So into the registry it goes.