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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islamic victimhood industry steps it up Reply #30 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 6:48pm Good work Frank - now all you have to do is cite Sheik Shady saying he wanted to kill gays
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Re: Islamic victimhood industry steps it up
Reply #32 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 6:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 10:45pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 9:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

If christians are opposed to sex abuse, why are we spending around $500 million to uncover the extent to which the catholic church promoted and covered up sex abuse?

There was a muslim who got into trouble for marrying a 12 year old girl in Australia, I wonder how many muslims haven't been caught for sex offences.

All social groups/religions/etc. have at various times sheltered sex offenders in Australia's history, Baron, even your favoured fellow gun nuts. We have a massive Royal Commission in progress at the moment on the issue. Jews, Christians, yes, even an occasional Muslim are up before it. Shame on them all. So why single out Muslims alone? You're not an Islamophobe are you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

We had a Muslim on here arguing that it is OK to marry children because that is what Muhammed did. The Muslim referred to above openly asked a Newcastle mosque to marry him to the 12 year old girl. They had the good sense not to break the law, but they took no steps to protect the girl and the wedding went ahead with the father's consent. Try going into a church with a 12 year old and asking them to give their blessing to pedophilia. There is a fundamentally different problem with Islam. Identifying and addressing that problem requires Islam to be singled out. Attempting to pretend it is identical will only facilitate the rape of children.

You don't want that do you Brian?

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Re: Islamic victimhood industry steps it up
Reply #33 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 7:04pm

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 6:58pm:

So what was Turnbull denouncing at that stupid stunt of a dinner?

Tell us, gandalf.

Nuffin'??

No Frank, not "nuffin".

Turnbull denounced him for blaming the spread of HIV and other diseases on homosexuality - and rightly so.

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“What’s the most common disease these days?” he said in a sermon uploaded in YouTube in 2013. “HIV, Aids, that’s so common and there’s no cure to it. And when did it exist? Just decades ago, and more diseases are coming.”

He said it was “homosexuality that’s spreading all these diseases”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/federal-election-2016/antigay-mulsim-sheik-shady...

Do you now agree that claiming he and the Grand Mufti "want to kill gays" is a big fat porky?

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Reply #34 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 8:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 6:58pm:

So what was Turnbull denouncing at that stupid stunt of a dinner?

Tell us, gandalf.

Nuffin'??

No Frank, not "nuffin".

Turnbull denounced him for blaming the spread of HIV and other diseases on homosexuality - and rightly so.

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“What’s the most common disease these days?” he said in a sermon uploaded in YouTube in 2013. “HIV, Aids, that’s so common and there’s no cure to it. And when did it exist? Just decades ago, and more diseases are coming.”

He said it was “homosexuality that’s spreading all these diseases”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/federal-election-2016/antigay-mulsim-sheik-shady...

Do you now agree that claiming he and the Grand Mufti "want to kill gays" is a big fat porky?

2 minutes.

Stoning. The Grand Mufti defended that very point.

You bastards are STILL thinking in terms of stonings. That's how medieval and unreconstructed you are. In 2016.

Victims, my arse.

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Reply #35 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:56pm

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 6:58pm:

So what was Turnbull denouncing at that stupid stunt of a dinner?

Tell us, gandalf.

Nuffin'??

No Frank, not "nuffin".

Turnbull denounced him for blaming the spread of HIV and other diseases on homosexuality - and rightly so.

Quote:

“What’s the most common disease these days?” he said in a sermon uploaded in YouTube in 2013. “HIV, Aids, that’s so common and there’s no cure to it. And when did it exist? Just decades ago, and more diseases are coming.”

He said it was “homosexuality that’s spreading all these diseases”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/federal-election-2016/antigay-mulsim-sheik-shady...

Do you now agree that claiming he and the Grand Mufti "want to kill gays" is a big fat porky?

2 minutes.

Stoning. The Grand Mufti defended that very point.

You bastards are STILL thinking in terms of stonings. That's how medieval and unreconstructed you are. In 2016.

Victims, my arse.

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Reply #36 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 12:08am

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

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Stoning. The Grand Mufti defended that very point.

Well spotted.

Shame he's talking about zina (adultery) with regards to a married man.

Also, claiming that according to the sharia the punishment for a particular type of sexual act is death is not "wanting to kill gays" - not by a long shot.

Got anything else?

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Reply #37 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 12:36am

freediver wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 6:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 10:45pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 9:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

If christians are opposed to sex abuse, why are we spending around $500 million to uncover the extent to which the catholic church promoted and covered up sex abuse?

There was a muslim who got into trouble for marrying a 12 year old girl in Australia, I wonder how many muslims haven't been caught for sex offences.

All social groups/religions/etc. have at various times sheltered sex offenders in Australia's history, Baron, even your favoured fellow gun nuts. We have a massive Royal Commission in progress at the moment on the issue. Jews, Christians, yes, even an occasional Muslim are up before it. Shame on them all. So why single out Muslims alone? You're not an Islamophobe are you? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

We had a Muslim on here arguing that it is OK to marry children because that is what Muhammed did. The Muslim referred to above openly asked a Newcastle mosque to marry him to the 12 year old girl. They had the good sense not to break the law, but they took no steps to protect the girl and the wedding went ahead with the father's consent. Try going into a church with a 12 year old and asking them to give their blessing to pedophilia. There is a fundamentally different problem with Islam. Identifying and addressing that problem requires Islam to be singled out. Attempting to pretend it is identical will only facilitate the rape of children.

You don't want that do you Brian?

Nope. There are though, better ways than continually criticising a religion's founder and the religion's belief system, FD. Its something you do all the time. Remember, an unwillingness to accept correction is a sure sign of bigotry. Perhaps you should consider that?

I wonder how many Muslims support child marriage?

I wonder how many Americans support child marriage? Never hear you criticising them for that, now do we? Roll Eyes

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Reply #38 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 7:29am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 12:08am:

Frank wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 8:38pm:

2 minutes.

Stoning. The Grand Mufti defended that very point.

Well spotted.

Shame he's talking about zina (adultery) with regards to a married man.

Also, claiming that according to the sharia the punishment for a particular type of sexual act is death is not "wanting to kill gays" - not by a long shot.

Got anything else?

So all gays have to do to avoid being killed by Muslims under shariah law is enact gay marriage?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islamic victimhood industry steps it up Reply #39 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 9:51am Is this you trying to worm out of your porky about the Grand Mufti FD?
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Reply #40 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 11:21am

In June 2016, Alsuleiman participated in an Iftar dinner at Kirribilli House hosted by the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister said he would not have been invited Alsuleiman had he known of his position regarding homosexuals. The sheikh denied he held radical anti-gay views.[15][16] Australia's Grand Mufti, Ibrahim Abu Mohamed has repudiated Malcolm Turnbull's position on this issue, saying Islam has a, "longstanding" position on homosexuality" which "no person can ever change". He said that any attempt to call out its teachings could lead to radicalisation.[17]

What do you think the grand Mufti is referring to here Gandalf?

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Reply #41 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 12:50pm

I think any attempt to call out Islamic teachings on homosexuality is the decent thing to do. The threat that this could lead to radicalization is quite sinister. This, it seems, is the Islamic establishment’s new stick.

Mind you, he’s probably right. Critiquing the church’s views on homosexuality has led to radicalization in the US. The Westborough Baptist Church are obsessed with homosexuality, as is the growing racist movement and even the black churches.

Homosexuality is an issue few fundamentalists will budge on.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49371 At my desk.	Re: Islamic victimhood industry steps it up Reply #42 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 1:02pm Bigot.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islamic victimhood industry steps it up Reply #43 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 1:53pm freediver wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 11:21am: What do you think the grand Mufti is referring to here Gandalf? That he thinks its a sin. Is that your proof that he wants to kill gays?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49371 At my desk.	Re: Islamic victimhood industry steps it up Reply #44 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 1:56pm Is that the first time you have used the word 'sin' here Gandalf?
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