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Reply #15 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:53am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:48am:

You should listen to the police and comply with what they ask.

Yes. And no. If they ask to see your ID you give it to them. If they ask you to roll down the window you do so. If they ask you to step out of the car, of course, you do.

But if they start asking questions you are under NO obligation to answer them in the USA. They will ask them. "Where are you coming from?" "What were you doing there?" "Where are you going?" By asking questions they are building a case.

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Reply #16 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:24pm

Police, regardless of how popular they are ATM, are still human beings. They are still part of the community. When a police officer leaves for work (arguably the most dangerous job in America) he has all the intentions of coming home when his day is done.

That said, any threat to him or her returning home safely has to be taken extremely seriously.

Now, you & I weren't there.....we weren't in the officers mind to know exactly what he was thinking, how he made his split second decisions, but when all the dust settles in this matter, we should have a better understanding of what 'actually' transpired as opposed to agenda driven hysteria & emotion.

Whether we like it or not is immaterial.

BTW.......I suggest if you fear being hit by lightning, don't travel to America, because you are way more apt to be hit by a bolt of lightning, than a bullet, regardless of how the media attempts to convince you otherwise.....what they do is all aimed to gain viewership, gain readership, & advance their personal agenda(s).....not to accurately portray the facts of the incident(s).

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Reply #17 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:53pm

AiA wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

Too early to know the facts of the incident. Everything is in the fog of hysteria.

I am living in the States. If I were to be pulled over I would keep my hands on the wheel, visible to the officer. When he asks for ID I would tell him I am going to pull it out of my pocket or wherever it is before I make a move.

I find it acceptable for a police officer to protect himself and his colleagues.

You just spout populist dross.

Sorry meant as a reply to cods.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138345 Gender:	Re: "I told him not to reach for it." Reply #18 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm Fuzzball wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:09am: Donald Trump is America's only salvation. "DONALD Trump has been accused of an historical child rape in shocking allegations filed with the United States Federal Court." Link
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138345 Gender:	Re: "I told him not to reach for it." Reply #19 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 1:02pm AiA wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:05am: Quote: "A police officer shot and killed a black man in St. Paul, Minnesota on Wednesday night during a routine execution." Fixed.
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Reply #21 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 1:07pm

AiA wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

Too early to know the facts of the incident. Everything is in the fog of hysteria.

I am living in the States. If I were to be pulled over I would keep my hands on the wheel, visible to the officer. When he asks for ID I would tell him I am going to pull it out of my pocket or wherever it is before I make a move.

Gawd. Thank God I live in Australia. If I get pulled over here it's always for some breath test which is fine because I never drink much alcohol anyway.

For whatever reason, I always greet these cops with a smile and a Gday.

If any cop ever pulled a gun on me, I reckon I'd pass out and/or go into cardiac arrest. Undecided

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Reply #22 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 1:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:09am:

Donald Trump is America's only salvation.

"DONALD Trump has been accused of an historical child rape in shocking allegations filed with the United States Federal Court." Link

Thanks for that. I didn't know. /sarc

Apart from your threadbombing that is.

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Reply #23 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 1:47pm

lee wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 1:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:09am:

Donald Trump is America's only salvation.

"DONALD Trump has been accused of an historical child rape in shocking allegations filed with the United States Federal Court." Link

Thanks for that. I didn't know.

No probs.

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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11529 Gender:	Re: "I told him not to reach for it." Reply #24 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 2:17pm .. Live streaming from Dallas......2 police officers, maybe more, shot by protestors: Edit: 4 officers confirmed dead......6 more officers & one civilian fighting for their lives in Hospital... *LIVE STREAMING VIDEO*
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Reply #25 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:09am:

Donald Trump is America's only salvation.

"DONALD Trump has been accused of an historical child rape in shocking allegations filed with the United States Federal Court." Link

Not only has Trump vehemently denied the allegations, but his lawyer has dismissed them as a politically-motivated hoax, pointing out that the court documents were filed in such a way as to make it impossible to trace their source.

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Reply #26 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:02pm

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:09am:

Donald Trump is America's only salvation.

"DONALD Trump has been accused of an historical child rape in shocking allegations filed with the United States Federal Court." Link

Not only has Trump vehemently denied the allegations, but his lawyer has dismissed them as a politically-motivated hoax, pointing out that the court documents were filed in such a way as to make it impossible to trace their source.

The lawyer and the defendant say it isn't true.

Ah.

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Reply #27 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:09am:

Donald Trump is America's only salvation.

"DONALD Trump has been accused of an historical child rape in shocking allegations filed with the United States Federal Court." Link

Not only has Trump vehemently denied the allegations, but his lawyer has dismissed them as a politically-motivated hoax, pointing out that the court documents were filed in such a way as to make it impossible to trace their source.

The lawyer and the defendant say it isn't true.

Ah.

Whilst the haemorrhoid takes every opportunity to be irritating.

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Reply #28 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:09pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 12:59pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jul 8^th, 2016 at 8:09am:

Donald Trump is America's only salvation.

"DONALD Trump has been accused of an historical child rape in shocking allegations filed with the United States Federal Court." Link

Not only has Trump vehemently denied the allegations, but his lawyer has dismissed them as a politically-motivated hoax, pointing out that the court documents were filed in such a way as to make it impossible to trace their source.

The lawyer and the defendant say it isn't true.

Ah.

Whilst the haemorrhoid takes every opportunity to be irritating.

They may have set a precedent.

Has a defendant and their lawyer ever denied allegations before?

I'm curious.

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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11529 Gender:	Re: "I told him not to reach for it." Reply #29 - Jul 8^th, 2016 at 3:21pm On Topic...... .. Live streaming from Dallas......2 police officers, maybe more, shot by protestors: Edit: 4 officers confirmed dead......6 more officers & one civilian fighting for their lives in Hospital... *LIVE STREAMING VIDEO*
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